steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, Horsefly said: If you play a bad game that happens. Who do you think MD looked like last year in their blowout loss to SJB? Who did SJB look like in their close win over an average servite team a few weeks ago? Aledo played their best opponent of the season who traveled 1k miles and were obliterated at home. MD unlike Aledo, has a pedigree of beating top teams. When has Aledo beaten a Katy or Allen regularly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, Horsefly said: Of course it doesn’t matter to you, you’re very myopic. I don't paint pictures that skew views. I use relevant information, not opinions like yours. The score was 42-0 before a last hurrah drive against the back up's resulting in Aledo's lone score(Which helped make the stats look close.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: Aledo played their best opponent of the season who traveled 1k miles and were obliterated at home. MD unlike Aledo, has a pedigree of beating top teams. When has Aledo beaten a Katy or Allen regularly? There is no difference in sampling a single game and drawing a conclusion. MD was given the opportunity to avenge their blowout loss, Aledo wasn’t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, Horsefly said: There is no difference in sampling a single game and drawing a conclusion. MD was given the opportunity to avenge their blowout loss, Aledo wasn’t Comparing a team like MD to Aledo is a stretch. Aledo had every advantage vs Amat, MD didn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, steeler01 said: I don't paint pictures that skew views. I use relevant information, not opinions like yours. The score was 42-0 before a last hurrah drive against the back up's resulting in Aledo's lone score(Which helped make the stats look close.) You use a sample size of one game to draw your conclusion about 5A vs .... Aledo had critical turnovers, they were missing their best player. Bad games happen, or is that only a CA phenomenon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, steeler01 said: Comparing a team like MD to Aledo is a stretch. Aledo had every advantage vs Amat, MD didn't Just stop, your logic is flawed. I’m arguing your attempt to draw a conclusion about 5A TODAY based on a game 5 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, Horsefly said: Just stop, your logic is flawed. I’m arguing your attempt to draw a conclusion about 5A TODAY based on a game 5 years ago. Aledo won again last year. Different year, same result. How many Championship appearances for Aledo in a row now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, Horsefly said: You use a sample size of one game to draw your conclusion about 5A vs .... Aledo had critical turnovers, they were missing their best player. Bad games happen, or is that only a CA phenomenon? I recall at the time(Prior to the game) that my argument was since they beat Cedar Park that Aledo was the top team in 5A. You argued Cedar Park wasn't a top team but they ended up in the other 5A title game and should've beaten Ennis 42-0 with staters in doesnt just happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Aledo won again last year. Different year, same result. How many Championship appearances for Aledo in a row now? What does that have to do with their season when they lost to Amat? Different players. MD has been in quite a few championships themselves, even winning one after a 41-18 blowout loss. What does that have to do with this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, Horsefly said: You use a sample size of one game to draw your conclusion about 5A vs There's not ever going to be a huge sample size. Your best best will be too daisy chain. We have one game to go off of because its the only time Aledo has played a top team(One that was playing with a QB that ended up being benched) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, steeler01 said: I recall at the time(Prior to the game) that my argument was since they beat Cedar Park that Aledo was the top team in 5A. You argued Cedar Park wasn't a top team but they ended up in the other 5A title game and should've beaten Ennis 42-0 with staters in doesnt just happen Why are you reflecting from my argument that you are making a class assessment based on a game from 5 years ago? Cedar park at the time had losses in the regular season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: What does that have to do with their season when they lost to Amat? Different players. MD has been in quite a few championships themselves, even winning one after a 41-18 blowout loss. What does that have to do with this season? Nothing, it has to do with how they dominate 5A. MD is a top team nationally, you're not going to find very many teams that can beat them annually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, steeler01 said: There's not ever going to be a huge sample size. Your best best will be too daisy chain. We have one game to go off of because its the only time Aledo has played a top team(One that was playing with a QB that ended up being benched) I simply don’t make an assessment on limited info. Only those with agendas are quick to do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: Why are you reflecting from my argument that you are making a class assessment based on a game from 5 years ago? Cedar park at the time had losses in the regular season. A game that the same team/ program keeps winning Your argument was prior to the Amat game though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: I simply don’t make an assessment on limited info. Only those with agendas are quick to do that. You make a ton of slanted assessments(Like using that OC board posts to say that your hunch has been confirmed), none that involve Texas though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, steeler01 said: Nothing, it has to do with how they dominate 5A. MD is a top team nationally, you're not going to find very many teams that can beat them annually. Even when SJB barely pulled off a close win over servite, I wasn’t running in and out of threads thinking it proved something. Bad games happen and even great teams, MD last year, showed that they can get blown out too if you play enough good teams . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: Even when SJB barely pulled off a close win over servite, I wasn’t running in and out of threads thinking it proved something. Bad games happen and even great teams, MD last year, showed that they can get blown out too if you play enough good teams . SJB has enough data to disprove anything you'd argue to the contrary. Aledo has Amat. Aledo or any 5A power should schedule a top team. Manvel, Lonestar, Highland Park etc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, steeler01 said: A game that the same team/ program keeps winning Your argument was prior to the Amat game though. Early In the regular season cedar park was not at the top of 5A. They had 3 losses in the regular season, one a 23-0 loss to dripping springs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Early In the regular season cedar park was not at the top of 5A. They had 3 losses in the regular season, one a 23-0 loss to dripping springs. Prior to Aledo, 1st game of the season you had nothing but historical evidence saying that Cedar Park was a top 10 team annually in 5A, but you went against it with nothing but opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, steeler01 said: SJB has enough data to disprove anything you'd argue to the contrary. Aledo has Amat. Aledo or any 5A power should schedule a top team. Manvel, Lonestar, Highland Park etc Lancaster scheduled Duncanville the past 2 seasons. Manvel has played north shore on numerous occasions, even when 5A. Longview as 5A played regional finalist Allen and beat them. Lake Travis blew out 6A finalist westlake in 09. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Prior to Aledo, 1st game of the season you had nothing but historical evidence saying that Cedar Park was a top 10 team annually in 5A, but you went against it with nothing but opinion So now you refute the actual 3 regular season losses? Opinion based on returning starters, etc. losing 23-0 to dripping springs was indicative to where they were that part of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Lancaster scheduled Duncanville the past 2 seasons. Manvel has played north shore on numerous occasions, even when 5A. Longview as 5A played regional finalist Allen and beat them. Lake Travis blew out 6A finalist westlake in 09. Lake Travis is currently 6A and was playing annually in the 5A championship game and winning them Manvel is currently 5A, but was 6A when those games happened and from what you people have said, had another school open up, which has now taken up some of their talent. Which means, their best teams are probably behind them now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, Horsefly said: So now you refute the actual 3 regular season losses? Opinion based on returning starters, etc. losing 23-0 to dripping springs was indicative to where they were that part of the season. Im not refuting them, what I'm refuting is you shooting them down before those games happened. In the end, regardless of those losses, they wound up in a last minute tussle with Ennis for state Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Lake Travis is currently 6A and was playing annually in the 5A championship game and winning them Manvel is currently 5A, but was 6A when those games happened and from what you people have said, had another school open up, which has now taken up some of their talent. Which means, their best teams are probably behind them now I know what LT is NOW. But back in 2009 they played and beat 6A westlake who went on to the 6A finals. Manvel beat them in ‘16 and ‘17 as a 5A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, steeler01 said: Im not refuting them, what I'm refuting is you shooting them down before those games happened. In the end, regardless of those losses, they wound up in a last minute tussle with Ennis for state My preseason assessment of them was validated by those losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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