steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, Horsefly said: birdville didn’t play Byron Nelson last year Desoto 55 skyline 53 6a semifinalist tascosa 35 Odessa 21. You listed a bunch of scores, there are thousands of games played weekly. It should've read Keller Central who was 2-8. Yes, but not between 6A and 5A. A double digit win against a team that was down 17 with 2 minutes left vs Longview Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 38 minutes ago, steeler01 said: There's many many examples annually of the level of play, but Horse will disregard it and will now steer to class size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Let me summarize all that needs to be said about classes in TX: The majority of 1A wouldn’t do as good if they played in 2A. The majority of 2A wouldn’t do as good if they played in 3A...the majority of 5A wouldn’t do as good if they played in 6A I'll summarize 5A isn't very good and below that is even crappier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, Horsefly said: 11-1 Hutto (42-39) over 7-4 lamar Desoto 55 skyline 53 7-4 Lamar. Another example thanks 2nd round loser Desoto with 3 losses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: 7-4 Lamar. Another example thanks 2nd round loser Desoto with 3 losses Hutto was a 2d round loser. That’s the point! SOC=Desoto=Skyline and none of them made it past the 3d round. That’s the point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 9 hours ago, Texasfrog said: Santa Margarita has like four (3-Star) athletes on the team.. I'm sure they would drill Shadow Creek too. Ha-ha-ha-ha. Santa Margarita is going to go winless (0-5) in the Trinity League. You think Shadow Creek is a national team. Yet somehow you think comparing them is a good look for you. 🤡 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, steeler01 said: 5A isn't very good and below that is even crappier. Compared with what state? What state's 2nd highest class is as deep as Texas 5A? Florida 7A?....etc. Nah..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Hutto was a 2d round loser. That’s the point! SOC=Desoto=Skyline and none of them made it past the 3d round. That’s the point! Your point is stupid Lamar 1st round loser Skyline 1st round loser Desoto 2nd round loser SOC 3rd round loser faced the champ in 5A and played them closer then anyone else besides Reedley It actually furthers my point earlier because you actually pointed out something I was talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, RedZone said: Compared with what state? What state's 2nd highest class is as deep as Texas 5A? Florida 7A?....etc. Nah..... Not comparing it to a class, talkiing about the level of play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: Not comparing it to a class, talkiing about the level of play What does that even mean??? I get calling something crappy, but you have to compare it with "something"...you choose to compare "level of play" then (for you) to TX 6A. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Texas 6A being one of strongest and deepest classes in the nation. Do better... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Your point is stupid Lamar 1st round loser Skyline 1st round loser Desoto 2nd round loser SOC 3rd round loser faced the champ It actually furthers my point earlier because you actually pointed out something I was talking about Hutto was a second round loser. To a team that didn’t win state SOC was no different from skyline or Desoto as far as playoff advancement. No father than rd 3 Tascosa struggled with 5-5 Odessa and Tascosa was a 6A semifinalist you posted about birdville playing Byron Nelson in ‘18 and they didn’t even play. you’ve been all over the place in this argument just like you were with the proof of rampant 4/5**** transfers at duncanville. 😂 i gotta go run some errands...Fly out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, RedZone said: What does that even mean??? I get calling something crappy, but you have to compare it with "something"...you choose to compare "level of play" then (for you) to TX 6A. Just because one class is better than another does make the former class "good" by any standard. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, The Guru said: Just because one class is better than another does make the former class "good" by any standard. It doesn't make them crappy either being there is NO "standard". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Hutto was a second round loser. To a team that didn’t win state SOC was no different from skyline or Desoto as far as playoff advancement. No father than rd 3 Tascosa struggled with 5-5 Odessa and Tascosa was a 6A semifinalist i gotta go run some errands...Fly out Hutto lost to a team that gave Shadow Creek two down to the wire games Desoto was blown out. Showing their hierarchy. Cedar hill lost to a scrub Skyline was a scrub Tascosa's gauntlet run to the semis Pebble hills Arlington Lake Ridge Haltom Not one top 20 team by any metric to get to the semis. Speaks more to the vastness of the Texas playoffs and the weakness of the Valley/ El Paso region. That's your example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 12 minutes ago, RedZone said: Texas 6A being one of strongest and deepest classes in the nation. Do better... It has 245 teams. Take the biggest 245 teams in any state and what are you left with below that? Crap. Which is what Texas 5A, 4A, etc are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, RedZone said: It doesn't make them crappy either being there is NO "standard". That's not what steeler is arguing. He's making a separate claim about 5A being crappy by just citing the facts. You're trying to claim that is has to be "compared" to something else. Again, that's the weasel word used by people to justify pound-for-pound rankings or comparative goodness. A team is either good or not. There's no sliding scale. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, The Guru said: It has 245 teams. Take the biggest 245 teams in any state and what are you left with below that? Crap. Which is what Texas 5A, 4A, etc are. Not hard to figure out, but we'll get push back by a bunch of Horsefly's that will move the goalposts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, The Guru said: A team is either good or not. There's no sliding scale. Horsefly's argument always Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Texas 6A is the #2 rated "division" in the nation behind the Trinity League, CA per the computer. I guess I could say CA is crappy compared to the Trinity League....level of play, if you will or.... whatever. Both Texas 5A "divisions" are Top 20 nationally per the computer. I need better reasoning why TX 5A is crappy....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 2 hours ago, steeler01 said: Not hard to figure out, but we'll get push back by a bunch of Horsefly's that will move the goalposts This is exactly what I stated. All you and Steeler do is run around flapping in every thread thinking you are saying something profound! Two clowns of the highest order! 4 hours ago, Horsefly said: The majority of 6A is mediocre compared to the best in the class, the majority of 4A is mediocre compared to the best in that class, the majority of 3A is mediocre compared to the best in that class... like I stated before you make a statement and think it’s profound and it’s not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, RedZone said: Texas 6A being one of strongest and deepest classes in the nation. Do better... There's no other state that lumps up 250 teams by size. So you can't compare it. Arguing a class is good is pointless with people who scale it with other states classes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: This is exactly what I stated you cunt! All you and Steeler do is run around cucking in every thread thinking you are saying something profound! Two jackasses of the highest order! I am Steeler. Mistakes happen when you're on your phone quoting stuff as im sure you're doing right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, RedZone said: Texas 6A is the #2 rated "division" in the nation behind the Trinity League, CA per the computer. It has 245 teams. It has all the good teams in Texas. So, yeah. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, RedZone said: I need better reasoning why TX 5A is crappy....... The teams aren't any good. And they play crappy schedules. And smaller class state champs/runners-up routinely lose to average bigger class teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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