steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, Horsefly said: So says the guy that made this statement when we were talking Aledo/Amat. 😂 By that time, you had steered the topic away, like you're trying to do now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, steeler01 said: That's not the argument It's the level of play of the classification. Where did I say that the Class sucks because 4 teams battle for a championship. The level of the classification as a whole isn't very good. Here’s your post. 18 minutes ago, steeler01 said: My place and stance is this 5A isn't very good. You have two or three teams some years 4 or 5 that can play in the 3rd or 4th round if they get a good draw in 6A. Then you get the outlier years where you get the top team that can play with anyone. The majority of 5A is mediocre though. Infested with 1st round 6A teams This is how you defined the class, and it’s no different from its relationship to 6A as any class would be compared to the one above. (3A to 4A, 4A to 5A, etc) All states have hierarchies and are defined by a few teams. Your statement was pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Texasfrog said: I mean... I'm sure the 15 or so FBS (4-Stars) and (3-Stars) on Shadow Creek Another lie. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, steeler01 said: By that time, you had steered the topic away, like you're trying to do now Do I need to quote all your posts where you made a statement and I addressed what you typed? We can do this all day if you want to play dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Where would these teams last year get to in 6A not in El Paso or the Valley? Wichita Falls Rider Grapevine Nederland Marshall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Where would these teams last year get to in 6A not in El Paso or the Valley? Wichita Falls Rider Grapevine Nederland Marshall Not very far, did they win something of merit to be a concern? Once again it’s a silly argument, you can do the same exercise with 1A-5A comparing pedestrian playoff teams to the class above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 34 minutes ago, steeler01 said: My place and stance is this 5A isn't very good. You have two or three teams some years 4 or 5 that can play in the 3rd or 4th round if they get a good draw in 6A. Then you get the outlier years where you get the top team that can play with anyone. The majority of 5A is mediocre though. Infested with 1st round 6A teams Not addressed, glossed over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Not very far, did they win something of merit to be a concern? Once again it’s a silly argument, you can do the same exercise with 1A-5A comparing pedestrian playoff teams to the class above. The problem is, that's the meat of 5A. That's why it sucks. As I mentioned above, and you dismissed it and changed my stance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Where would these teams last year get to in 6A not in El Paso or the Valley? Wichita Falls Rider Grapevine Nederland Marshall At the end of the day I’ll be following in 5AD1: highland park, Lancaster, Ryan, shadow creek and lone star to see who comes out on top and to track what other teams may surface to upset any of them. No different from any other class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Not addressed, glossed over The majority of 6A is mediocre compared to the best in the class, the majority of 4A is mediocre compared to the best in that class, the majority of 3A is mediocre compared to the best in that class... like I stated before you make a statement and think it’s profound and it’s not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 8 hours ago, Texasfrog said: LMAO.. The same people that have offered the QB's from John Curtis, BR-Catholic and Rummel. Ha-ha-ha. You know.. The three top Louisiana teams. The Curtis QB is committed to Army which isn't a bad gig these days. Rummel's first year starter has FCS offers. He's 6-4 220 lbs. His dad starred at LSU. He will pick up some D1 offers soon. You have my word. Catholic's QB is a baseball commit. Decent HS QB. People know the type....he's heady and steady. Point is I'm in reality while you are in some sort of fantasy bubble. "Selection of 20 FBS offers soon" Yeah, sure. "wink" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, steeler01 said: The problem is, that's the meat of 5A. That's why it sucks. As I mentioned above, and you dismissed it and changed my stance That’s the meat of any class. You do realize there are 250 or so schools in each class. And in each one there are only a handful of teams that will be competitive with the class elite. Skyline plano mayde creek keller pearce rowlett And this exists in every state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: The majority of 6A is mediocre compared to the best in the class, the majority of 4A is mediocre compared to the best in that class, the majority of 3A is mediocre compared to the best in that class... like I stated before you make a statement and think it’s profound and it’s not. That's not the argument though. We're talking level of football. 5A as a whole plays mediocre football. When the majority of your teams play at the level of a 1st round 6A team or less, your level of football isn't very good. The majority of 6A being mediocre to the top is meaningless in this argument. Stop steering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: That’s the meat of any class. You do realize there are 250 or so schools in each class. And in each one there are only a handful of teams that will be competitive with the class elite. Skyline plano mayde creek keller pearce rowlett And this exists in every state. Where have I said anything about playing with the top teams in their class? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Stay on topic Where does the majority of 5A fit into 6A? You know the class playing the highest level of football in Texas. Hell, try and rank the current top 25 5A teams into the entirety of 6A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 1 minute ago, steeler01 said: That's not the argument though. We're talking level of football. 5A as a whole plays mediocre football. When the majority of your teams play at the level of a 1st round 6A team or less, your level of football isn't very good. The majority of 6A being mediocre to the top is meaningless in this argument. Stop steering But this is your loose opinion based on limited evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 7 hours ago, Texasfrog said: LMFAO... What happen to DeSoto? They got beat by a good Mansfield Summit team Cedar Hill put 50 on Summit... Maybe Summit was "too good" for DeSoto.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just now, Horsefly said: But this is your loose opinion based on limited evidence. You have yet to refute it, but there's evidence to support my stance. Tons actually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Stay on topic Where does the majority of 5A fit into 6A? You know the class playing the highest level of football in Texas. Hell, try and rank the current top 25 5A teams into the entirety of 6A Overall it’s not as strong. The same as 4A to 5A, 3A to 4A, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, steeler01 said: You have yet to refute it, but there's evidence to support my stance. Tons actually There’s nothing to refute that 5A as a whole is not as strong as 6A. The same as 5A to 4A, 3A to 2A, etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Stay on topic Where does the majority of 5A fit into 6A? You know the class playing the highest level of football in Texas. Hell, try and rank the current top 25 5A teams into the entirety of 6A In the states top 30, 6A would have the majority followed by 5A with a smaller percentage, 4A even smaller and no one in the classes below 4A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 2018 3rd round team South Oak Cliff 10 Skyline(7-3) 7(SOC 3rd round loser. Closest game for Aledo in the playoffs) Quarterfinalist Birdville 31 Byron Nelson (2-8)24(Total yards you love 182-417. 6 turnovers was the difference) 3rd Round Coronado 30 Odessa 27(5-5) Quarterfinalist John Tyler 7 Cedar Hill(9-2 1st round upset loser) 57 There's many many examples annually of the level of play, but Horse will disregard it and will now steer to class size Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 Just curious. Who are the CA "5A public's"....size wise compared to TX?..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 37 minutes ago, steeler01 said: 2018 3rd round team South Oak Cliff 10 Skyline(7-3) 7(SOC 3rd round loser. Closest game for Aledo in the playoffs) Quarterfinalist Birdville 31 Byron Nelson (2-8)24(Total yards you love 182-417. 6 turnovers was the difference) 3rd Round Coronado 30 Odessa 27(5-5) Quarterfinalist John Tyler 7 Cedar Hill(9-2 1st round upset loser) 57 There's many many examples annually of the level of play, but Horse will disregard it and will now steer to class size birdville didn’t play Byron Nelson last year 11-1 Hutto (42-39) over 7-4 lamar Desoto 55 skyline 53 6a semifinalist tascosa 35 Odessa 21. You listed a bunch of scores, there are thousands of games played weekly. I’ve just added a few more...big deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 25, 2019 Report Share Posted October 25, 2019 27 minutes ago, steeler01 said: 2018 3rd round team South Oak Cliff 10 Skyline(7-3) 7(SOC 3rd round loser. Closest game for Aledo in the playoffs) Quarterfinalist Birdville 31 Byron Nelson (2-8)24(Total yards you love 182-417. 6 turnovers was the difference) 3rd Round Coronado 30 Odessa 27(5-5) Quarterfinalist John Tyler 7 Cedar Hill(9-2 1st round upset loser) 57 There's many many examples annually of the level of play, but Horse will disregard it and will now steer to class size Let me summarize all that needs to be said about classes in TX: The majority of 1A wouldn’t do as good if they played in 2A. The majority of 2A wouldn’t do as good if they played in 3A...the majority of 5A wouldn’t do as good if they played in 6A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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