CFB Playoff discussion

[HSFBfan]

On YPA Jalen hurts is equal to justin fields and jalen hurts cant throw

[concha]

3 hours ago, HSFBfan said:

Yea this year. Not every class is equal. and I never broke down joe burrow weaknesses yet.

If I had a vote for heiman it would be for young. Best player in college football 

Joe avg over 10 yards per passing attempt. Better than fields 

 

10 vs 9?

Wow.

Huge.

Fields' yards per completion is something like 8th in the nation. He's ahead of Trevor Lawrence. 😂

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[HSFBfan]

If this is true alabama will be back on top next year

According to a report from BamaCentral, Tagovailoa, Henry Ruggs III, DeVonta Smith, Alex Leatherwood and Dylan Moses are strongly considering not turning pro.

[HSFBfan]

5 minutes ago, concha said:

10 vs 9?

Wow.

Huge.

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While playing in a better league. 

[concha]

5 minutes ago, HSFBfan said:

While playing in a better league. 

 

I'm LMAO.

The guy is going to at the Heisman Award ceremony and you're nitpicking him.

40 TDs and just one pick all year. One effing pick.

His completion stats are amongst the highest in the nation (his 9.6 yards per attempt is #8 in the country BTW - fuck that sucks, right?).  🤣

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[HSFBfan]

10 minutes ago, concha said:

 

I'm LMAO.

The guy is going to at the Heisman Award ceremony and you're nitpicking him.

40 TDs and just one pick all year. One effing pick.

His completion stats are amongst the highest in the nation (his 9.6 yards per attempt is #8 in the country BTW - fuck that sucks, right?).  🤣

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Didnt say it sucks. I said its light. Ok and yes u can continue to point out the 40:1 ratio. You would have to go back and watch all his throws and break down percentage of throws from 1-10 yards and from 15 yards and longer. It would tell the true story of is he stretching the fields or is it a lot of RPO short slants with great athletes who can break it open down the field. 

Oh and it's the SEC and there is a reason why LSU got the #1 nod over OSU. They respect the sec more than the big ten

[concha]

58 minutes ago, HSFBfan said:

Didnt say it sucks. I said its light. Ok and yes u can continue to point out the 40:1 ratio. You would have to go back and watch all his throws and break down percentage of throws from 1-10 yards and from 15 yards and longer. It would tell the true story of is he stretching the fields or is it a lot of RPO short slants with great athletes who can break it open down the field. 

Oh and it's the SEC and there is a reason why LSU got the #1 nod over OSU. They respect the sec more than the big ten

 

8th in the nation is "light"?

LSU jumped Ohio State by beating a team that arrived without its offense (Georgia).

FYI, the highest rated divisions are SEC-West #1 and Big 10 East #2.

 

I frankly don't give a fuck what his pass mix is.  They're the top scoring offense in the nation and he's a top 3 QB up for the Heisman.

LOL & SMDH

 

[HSFBfan]

Just now, concha said:

 

8th in the nation is "light"?

LSU jumped Ohio State by beating a team that arrived without its offense (Georgia).

FYI, the highest rated divisions are SEC-West #1 and Big 10 East #2.

 

I frankly don't give a fuck what his pass mix is.  They're the top scoring offense in the nation and he's a top 3 QB up for the Heisman.

LOL & SMDH

 

And yet as its pointed out is a 3 point underdog to a team who hasnt played anyone with a pulse since september. Something isnt adding up.

 

[Kalven]

Although its pretty obvious, the superstitious world of sports illuminati is predicting a 15-0 winner this year to match the 150 year of CFB. So Oklahoma will not win it all! 

[HSFBfan]

11 minutes ago, Kalven said:

Although its pretty obvious, the superstitious world of sports illuminati is predicting a 15-0 winner this year to match the 150 year of CFB. So Oklahoma will not win it all! 

Well oklahoma is something like a 10 pt underdog to lsu

[concha]

1 hour ago, HSFBfan said:

And yet as its pointed out is a 3 point underdog to a team who hasnt played anyone with a pulse since september. Something isnt adding up.

 

Experience in the playoffs.

[CCBlackhatter]

1 hour ago, HSFBfan said:

And yet as its pointed out is a 3 point underdog to a team who hasnt played anyone with a pulse since september. Something isnt adding up.

 

That's because Clemson plays a weak schedule and still beats good teams when the time comes.

Clemson is the most healthy and fresh team in college football. I'm sure they have been game planning for weeks now.

[HSFBfan]

45 minutes ago, CCBlackhatter said:

That's because Clemson plays a weak schedule and still beats good teams when the time comes.

Clemson is the most healthy and fresh team in college football. I'm sure they have been game planning for weeks now.

Probably since september 

[CCBlackhatter]

49 minutes ago, HSFBfan said:

Probably since september 

I'd imagine so. Factor in the fact that they have the luxury of playing with a closed playbook, it is certainly an advantage.

[concha]

Interesting takes on QBs per ESPN:

 

Best passer, by distance
1-9 yards downfield: Anthony Gordon, Washington State
The Air Raid offense is favorable to short-distance throws but Gordon made the most of those opportunities, even by recent Air Raid QB success rates. He's the nation's highest-graded thrower on passes targeted 1-9 yards downfield by some margin and leads in every major category, including throwing 15 touchdowns and 1,991 yards with just two turnover-worthy passes on his 247 attempts from that distance.

10-19 yards downfield: Justin Fields, Ohio State
Fields was outstanding to the intermediate range of the field, completing 55 of 77 attempts for 889 yards and 11 touchdowns against just one interception. Fields was accurate and sharp with his reads on such throws and led the country with a 76.6% adjusted completion percentage, as four of his incompletions were actually on the money but dropped by his receivers.

20-plus yards downfield: Joe Burrow, LSU
Burrow lit up the field with his deep ball in 2019. He finished second in yards on throws at least 20 yards past the line of scrimmage but completed 56.3% of his deep attempts, leading the nation by hitting 36 of 64 attempts with 19 touchdowns and just two interceptions.

Best passer when kept clean: Fields, Ohio State
The only quarterback to not throw an interception when kept clean from the pocket, Fields led all FBS signal-callers in passing and overall grade when his offensive line kept him away from pressure. Fields hit on 72.5% of his throws from a clean pocket and threw 32 TD passes; he was the only quarterback with at least 150 clean dropbacks and no interceptions.

Best passer when under pressure: Burrow, LSU
Burrow's ability under pressure was never more clear than during the SEC championship game, when he dodged what seemed like the entire Georgia defensive line in the pocket and unloaded a perfect downfield shot. But that was a mere microcosm of his productive season. When pressured, Burrow completed a whopping 69.3% of his passes, hitting 70 of 101 for 1,241 yards and 15 touchdowns against just one interception. He led the nation in every category from a pressured pocket, showing NFL readiness at every turn.

Best passer when targeting past the sticks: Burrow, LSU
Surpassing Fields during the conference championship weekend, Burrow led all passers with a near-perfect grade on throws past the first-down markers in 2019. He completed 134 of 197 attempts, leading the country with a 68% percentage and a 71.1% adjusted completion percentage, as his receivers even left six first downs on the table with six drops.

Best passer in the pocket: Fields, Ohio State
Fields completed 165 of 229 attempts for 2,261, 32 TDs and no interceptions on straight-drop concepts and throws from inside the pocket. What set Fields apart on straight dropbacks was his ability to avoid negatively graded attempts, as he led the country with just three turnover-worthy passes on such attempts.

Best passer outside of the pocket: J'Mar Smith, Louisiana Tech
Whether the passing situation called for him to roll out intentionally or if he scrambled out on his own, Smith was a class above the rest of the nation's quarterbacks. He completed under 50% of his pass attempts but had four touchdowns and four big-time throws outside of the pocket while limiting himself to zero turnover-worthy passes when on his own outside.

Best red zone QB: Trevor Lawrence, Clemson
A key aspect to any quarterback's repertoire is the ability to find open throws in the red zone while also possessing the required arm strength to fit throws into tighter windows inside the opponent's 20-yard line. Lawrence did that better than any other quarterback this season, completing 31 of 42 passes for 240 yards and 18 touchdowns while avoiding any turnovers and leading the country with his 73.8% completion percentage.

[rockinl]

11 hours ago, HSFBfan said:

If this is true alabama will be back on top next year

According to a report from BamaCentral, Tagovailoa, Henry Ruggs III, DeVonta Smith, Alex Leatherwood and Dylan Moses are strongly considering not turning pro.

Leatherwood is disgraceful with all the penalties on JUST HIM this year.

[RedZone]

9 hours ago, concha said:

Interesting takes on QBs per ESPN:

 

Best passer, by distance
1-9 yards downfield: Anthony Gordon, Washington State
The Air Raid offense is favorable to short-distance throws but Gordon made the most of those opportunities, even by recent Air Raid QB success rates. He's the nation's highest-graded thrower on passes targeted 1-9 yards downfield by some margin and leads in every major category, including throwing 15 touchdowns and 1,991 yards with just two turnover-worthy passes on his 247 attempts from that distance.

10-19 yards downfield: Justin Fields, Ohio State
Fields was outstanding to the intermediate range of the field, completing 55 of 77 attempts for 889 yards and 11 touchdowns against just one interception. Fields was accurate and sharp with his reads on such throws and led the country with a 76.6% adjusted completion percentage, as four of his incompletions were actually on the money but dropped by his receivers.

20-plus yards downfield: Joe Burrow, LSU
Burrow lit up the field with his deep ball in 2019. He finished second in yards on throws at least 20 yards past the line of scrimmage but completed 56.3% of his deep attempts, leading the nation by hitting 36 of 64 attempts with 19 touchdowns and just two interceptions.

Best passer when kept clean: Fields, Ohio State
The only quarterback to not throw an interception when kept clean from the pocket, Fields led all FBS signal-callers in passing and overall grade when his offensive line kept him away from pressure. Fields hit on 72.5% of his throws from a clean pocket and threw 32 TD passes; he was the only quarterback with at least 150 clean dropbacks and no interceptions.

Best passer when under pressure: Burrow, LSU
Burrow's ability under pressure was never more clear than during the SEC championship game, when he dodged what seemed like the entire Georgia defensive line in the pocket and unloaded a perfect downfield shot. But that was a mere microcosm of his productive season. When pressured, Burrow completed a whopping 69.3% of his passes, hitting 70 of 101 for 1,241 yards and 15 touchdowns against just one interception. He led the nation in every category from a pressured pocket, showing NFL readiness at every turn.

Best passer when targeting past the sticks: Burrow, LSU
Surpassing Fields during the conference championship weekend, Burrow led all passers with a near-perfect grade on throws past the first-down markers in 2019. He completed 134 of 197 attempts, leading the country with a 68% percentage and a 71.1% adjusted completion percentage, as his receivers even left six first downs on the table with six drops.

Best passer in the pocket: Fields, Ohio State
Fields completed 165 of 229 attempts for 2,261, 32 TDs and no interceptions on straight-drop concepts and throws from inside the pocket. What set Fields apart on straight dropbacks was his ability to avoid negatively graded attempts, as he led the country with just three turnover-worthy passes on such attempts.

Best passer outside of the pocket: J'Mar Smith, Louisiana Tech
Whether the passing situation called for him to roll out intentionally or if he scrambled out on his own, Smith was a class above the rest of the nation's quarterbacks. He completed under 50% of his pass attempts but had four touchdowns and four big-time throws outside of the pocket while limiting himself to zero turnover-worthy passes when on his own outside.

Best red zone QB: Trevor Lawrence, Clemson
A key aspect to any quarterback's repertoire is the ability to find open throws in the red zone while also possessing the required arm strength to fit throws into tighter windows inside the opponent's 20-yard line. Lawrence did that better than any other quarterback this season, completing 31 of 42 passes for 240 yards and 18 touchdowns while avoiding any turnovers and leading the country with his 73.8% completion percentage.

 

[RedZone]

On 12/12/2019 at 8:10 PM, RedZone said:

Rummel in the House!

Good for #1! Heck of a year. 

 

Two years ago....@ Rummel

 

[HSFBfan]

Chase young reportedly going back to school 

[concha]

14 minutes ago, HSFBfan said:

Chase young reportedly going back to school 

 

This would be shocking.

As it is he goes #1 or #2 in the draft.

Ohio State would graduate alot but also return lots of guys with plenty of experience and several stars, including two Heisman finalists.

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[HSFBfan]

4 minutes ago, concha said:

 

This would be shocking.

As it is he goes #1 or #2 in the draft.

Ohio State would graduate alot but also return lots of guys with plenty of experience and several stars, including two Heisman finalists.

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That's what he said. It seems like more more than expected is going back to school. These kids today dont want to play for a losing organization 

[HSFBfan]

Hide your eyes, Giants fans. Your dream first-round pick may have other plans.

Chase Young, the monster defensive end from Ohio State most believe is the best NFL prospect in the country, told TMZ sports “the plan” is for him to return to school for his senior year.

https://nypost.com/2019/12/14/chase-youngs-nfl-draft-plan-could-be-giants-nightmare/amp/

[HSFBfan]

Chase Young planning to return to Ohio State in 2020

https://draftwire.usatoday.com/2019/12/14/chase-young-nfl-draft-ohio-state-return-2020/amp/

[concha]

1 minute ago, HSFBfan said:

That's what he said. It seems like more more than expected is going back to school. These kids today dont want to play for a losing organization 

Two things:

1) Spot on. You don't want to get drafted by a smaller market and broken franchise.

2) If he comes back there will be a campaign for him from week one to get the Heisman as a defensive player.

 

[HSFBfan]

Just now, concha said:

Two things:

1) Spot on. You don't want to get drafted by a smaller market and broken franchise.

2) If he comes back there will be a campaign for him from week one to get the Heisman as a defensive player.

 

Ur first argument is pretty mute. He is expected to be drafted by the giants.

2nd point ur absolutely spot on