Bormio Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: That's simply false..... winning the coin toss in OT is a huge advantage. Just ask the patriots in the Falcons Super bowl. Stats prove the winner of coin toss In OT wins 59.8% of the time. Further, the team that wins the coin toss has won the game 34.4% of the time on the first possession. Those are old stats - with the new rule (win with TD only on first drive) - it is around 52%. But of course it helps the Pats - their offense was smoking hot at the time - high chance of getting a TD. But if the first team does not get a TD (and SF was not hot on offense), then the second team knows exactly what it needs (such as go on all 4th downs) and can win with a FG if the first team does not score. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 25 minutes ago, frankyjames said: Ummmmmm, ESPN covers them 24/7. I personally don't think they are good. I don't think the Pats have enough to beat the 49ers. They can't even figure out a second rate Kaepernick. ESPN covers anyone they think might beat the Pats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Bormio said: Those are old stats - with the new rule (win with TD only on first drive) - it is around 52%. But of course it helps the Pats - their offense was smoking hot at the time - high chance of getting a TD. But if the first team does not get a TD (and SF was not hot on offense), then the second team knows exactly what it needs (such as go on all 4th downs) and can win with a FG if the first team does not score. It also helped pats against chiefs in AFC championship game ..... won the toss scored td. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: It also helped pats against chiefs in AFC championship game ..... won the toss scored td. As I said, powerful offenses benefit. But if it was the Bears vs Bengals - choose to go 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Bormio said: Those are old stats - with the new rule (win with TD only on first drive) - it is around 52%. B You have a link for this? And new OT rules only around for what? 3 years? Sample size is not large enough to get very accurate # yet. In ten years i suspect it will be back to that 60% figure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted November 12, 2019 Report Share Posted November 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Mjd33 said: You have a link for this? And new OT rules only around for what? 3 years? Sample size is not large enough to get very accurate # yet. In ten years i suspect it will be back to that 60% figure This whole issue was discussed on the Pats board after the AFCCG last year. Someone sourced the 52% figure at the time - since 2016 (now in the 4th year). It gives an advantage to the second team (win with a FG) that the first team does not have - to offset the possibility of never seeing the ball. The NFL does not want to adopt the college system (play from the 25) and any system that gives both sides a guaranteed chance massively favors team #2 - because they know what they have to do - especially on 4th downs. That is why they told KC to pound sand when they proposed changing the rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Browns beating Steelers 14-0 early @TheMaximumHornetSting loving it 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted November 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, hardhit1 said: Browns beating Steelers 14-0 early @TheMaximumHornetSting loving it 😆 2 teams that deserve each other... Wish y'all could both lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 1 minute ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: 2 teams that deserve each other... Wish y'all could both lose. Damn bro I will remember that hate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted November 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, hardhit1 said: Damn bro I will remember that hate Y'all beat us like a Bass drum... And I hate the Steelers.... I want my revenge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Rooting for the Squealers. First of all, Pats beat them like a drum. Second, anything that gives Hornet heartburn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioFootball Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Anyone ever see anything like what Myles Garrett just did before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 A similar but worse incident happened this past Friday in NorCal at a hs football game. Garret should e gone for the year after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasfrog Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, OhioFootball said: Anyone ever see anything like what Myles Garrett just did before? I've seen players waive helmets around but not to actually make contact. Like a baseball player carrying the bat out during a fight but knowing he better not swing it at someone. Myles Garrett should be suspended for the rest of the season for that BS and probably fined like $100,000. That crap could kill someone!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorCalRuss Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, OhioFootball said: Anyone ever see anything like what Myles Garrett just did before? He should be arrested and thrown in jail for assault... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasfrog Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Just now, NorCalRuss said: He should be arrested and thrown in jail for assault... If he did that outside the stadium.. They would be taking mug-shot photos and finger prints right now!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 He just said it was an accident on ESPN 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 I believe criminal charges would be justified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 8 minutes ago, ATLien12x said: He just said it was an accident on ESPN 🤣🤣 Accidents are things you have no control over. Swinging a helmet at a guys head is a conscious act and a bad choice. Society has allowed “it was an accident” as an excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted November 15, 2019 Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 Well that was f**king stupid .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted November 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2019 7 hours ago, hardhit1 said: Damn bro I will remember that hate The end of that game though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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