hawaiiboy396 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 St. Louis won the state title this past weekend easily. I know some of the coaches and they are about to except am offer for the Geico Bowl. They expecting to play STA. This is probably their legendary coach Cal Lee's last year 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasKama'aina Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Hearing the same thing. Looking like the game will take place at Bishop Gorman on Dec 21. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Good news really want to see St.Louis vs top competition 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Well that’s exciting. Good for STL! Roll Crusaders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 53 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: As posted in another thread, the wildcard appears to be the STA Principal, who isn’t totally sold on the value of the event yet. She's been Principal since 2015 and they played in the 2016 event so that's not the issue. They don't give long descriptive reasons like the Supreme Court does but it seems likely that the decision came down to the calendar/travel. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rcmore Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 I like St. Louis by a TD, if it happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 8 hours ago, hawaiiboy396 said: St. Louis won the state title this past weekend easily. I know some of the coaches and they are about to except am offer for the Geico Bowl. They expecting to play STA. This is probably their legendary coach Cal Lee's last year Good! St. Louis has one helluva squad this year. Now let me ask you this: if STA fails to get it done, would St. Louis still accept the invite and possibly have to play the Georgia 7A champ or Saint Frances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Would y'all consider St. Louis beating STA an upset? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 1 hour ago, GardenStateBaller said: As posted in another thread, the wildcard appears to be the STA Principal, who isn’t totally sold yet on the value of the event. If they win out but don’t accept the invite, smaller class teams like Jones and MNW will then be in play, along with Marietta if they will GA 7A. If none of the aforementioned teams come through, then SFA looms as the dark horse team to play SL. Why would North Gwinnett or Lowndes be involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 36 minutes ago, Rcmore said: I like St. Louis by a TD, if it happens So what you're saying is that STA is about as good as Punahou. Interesting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasKama'aina Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 2 hours ago, GardenStateBaller said: Welcome to the board. Glad to have you and @hawaiiboy396! Thanks! Have mostly lurked here for a while but heard of the potential matchup and decided to come back to see what people thought. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrobstercraws Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 Finally, somebody other than me who follows HI football. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rcmore Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 4 hours ago, The Guru said: So what you're saying is that STA is about as good as Punahou. Interesting. I go by St John Bosco and St Louis' common opponent. Mililani. Based on that, that tells me St Louis can hang with SJB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalven Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 3 hours ago, Rcmore said: I go by St John Bosco and St Louis' common opponent. Mililani. Based on that, that tells me St Louis can hang with SJB. Can’t really make that comparison ala Servite. I do however think STL vs STA is as evenly matched as it gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaiiboy396 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/2/2019 at 5:24 AM, FootballGuy said: Good! St. Louis has one helluva squad this year. Now let me ask you this: if STA fails to get it done, would St. Louis still accept the invite and possibly have to play the Georgia 7A champ or Saint Frances? According to coaches I know. It's pretty much a done deal that they will play in the bowl. Opponent doesn't matter. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaiiboy396 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/2/2019 at 2:03 PM, Kalven said: Can’t really make that comparison ala Servite. I do however think STL vs STA is as evenly matched as it gets. I think SJB would beat St. Louis by 10-14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaiiboy396 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/2/2019 at 5:27 AM, The Guru said: So what you're saying is that STA is about as good as Punahou. Interesting. Punahou is very much underrated team. I've seen them play all year. They could compete with anyone ranked 10-25 in the polls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaiiboy396 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/2/2019 at 5:24 AM, FootballGuy said: Would y'all consider St. Louis beating STA an upset? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaiiboy396 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/2/2019 at 4:51 AM, Rcmore said: I like St. Louis by a TD, if it happens Not sure I'd St.Louis O line will be able to Give Jaden time to throw it around. Dont expect stl to be able to run the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_e Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Great. It would be nice to see SL matched up against the GA or FL champ. SFA would be a good opponent too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, hawaiiboy396 said: Not sure I'd St.Louis O line will be able to Give Jaden time to throw it around. Dont expect stl to be able to run the ball. Shiiiit.... does SL even run the ball in the first place? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawaiiboy396 Posted December 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, FootballGuy said: Shiiiit.... does SL even run the ball in the first place? Lol Yes thet do run it out of the shotgun to keep defenses honest. They will need to otherwise d lines can pin their ears back and come hard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasKama'aina Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 Much has been made on the islands about this possibly being the best St Louis team ever but I'm not sure that I agree. Recruiting the islands has become a bit more accessible as the reputation of high school football in Hawai'i has grown nationwide and I think that the current team has benefitted from that increased visibility. But, as hawaiiboy396 pointed out, the current team lacks a consistent running attack and to me that is a big thing that keeps me from being able to compare this team favorably with some of the Crusader teams of the 1990's. That said, it'll still be an interesting test to see how they can handle a team like STA. I'm guessing the high-end talent on each team will be similar, but the big thing I would like to see is how St Louis' depth of talent compares with a true blue-chip program. Either way it's a good opportunity to build the reputation of Hawai'i football on a national scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 10 hours ago, hawaiiboy396 said: Punahou is very much underrated team. I've seen them play all year. They could compete with anyone ranked 10-25 in the polls. But Punahou is ranked #21 by calpreps. That's hardly underrated. Do you think Hawaii has 4 teams in the top 80 like calpreps has it? St. Louis #4, Punahou #21, Kuhuku #42, and Mililani #80. I think that's over the top. It speaks to the scaling and clustering issues that it has. Massey is more aligned with my thoughts. They have St. Louis #5, Punahou #62, Kuhuku #138, and Mililani #192. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendsofthefall Posted December 4, 2019 Report Share Posted December 4, 2019 9 hours ago, VegasKama'aina said: Much has been made on the islands about this possibly being the best St Louis team ever but I'm not sure that I agree. Recruiting the islands has become a bit more accessible as the reputation of high school football in Hawai'i has grown nationwide and I think that the current team has benefitted from that increased visibility. But, as hawaiiboy396 pointed out, the current team lacks a consistent running attack and to me that is a big thing that keeps me from being able to compare this team favorably with some of the Crusader teams of the 1990's. That said, it'll still be an interesting test to see how they can handle a team like STA. I'm guessing the high-end talent on each team will be similar, but the big thing I would like to see is how St Louis' depth of talent compares with a true blue-chip program. Either way it's a good opportunity to build the reputation of Hawai'i football on a national scale. My good college buddy went to and played for St. Louis in the mid 90's. I moved out there from NJ for work about 15 years ago for a brief stint and got to know more about the program. Those were some powerhouse teams they had back in the 90's with nasty O Lines including standout college and pros in Dominic Raiola and Olin Kreutz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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