concha Posted December 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, World Citizen said: Which parts of the article are facts? Seems the article is based off an illogical premise or assumption. Is the data she presents incorrect? Like Andy, you make no point and point to nothing specific while doing so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, concha said: Is the data she presents incorrect? Like Andy, you make no point and point to nothing specific while doing so. I'm saying that the whole article is based off an incorrect assumption. The idea that America is being torn apart from an 'idea of racism' is stupid and places the blame and responsibility on those who are experiencing racism, institutional or otherwise. Tricknology is what that is. I know how this is going to go so I'll leave you to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga96 Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: I never intended to disprove anything. I intended to prove that the writer is not a serious intellectual and offers no solutions to her alleged problem. If I know exactly what a person is going to write before even reading the article then it's not in any way interesting. So she's a female shapiro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, concha said: Why do you say "it went into the shitter"? The point is that claims of white privilege and patriarchy and all that are expected to be accepted and taken as true at face value. The person making the claim is not expected to provide any evidence that they actually deserved the job over the person that actually got it, and per the data provided in later paragraphs, statistically there are lots of people who may be objectively more qualified out there who are of a different skin color. In fact, it is pointed out that black students perform at lower levels on the standardized tests yet are not held to the same standards when it comes to qualifying for admission to schools and jobs later on ("reverse" racism/affirmative action). Where are the name calling and personal attacks in the article? Shit ton of facts, been over this a while back. You wanna revisit this, now? Why the sudden enlightenment? The pattern of the article is a pattern you follow, some decent substance then a boomerang. However the name calling and personal attacks are all yours.... that’s what I meant. bgw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 hours ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: The article was fairly decent and seemed to have a argument, then you get to the tenth paragraph and it went into the shitter. White Fragility at it's finest, kinda like Conchita's arguments, fairly compelling arguments albeit with some weak points then it degrades straight to racist bigotry, escalating to name calling and personal attacks. bgw It's the kernel of truth wrapped in a shell of pablum with a no-solutions-here cherry on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, concha said: The point is that claims of white privilege and patriarchy and all that are expected to be accepted and taken as true at face value. Since most of history has been directed and written by white men I'd say that something so obvious should, indeed, be taken at face value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Shit ton of facts, been over this a while back. You wanna revisit this, now? Why the sudden enlightenment? The pattern of the article is a pattern you follow, some decent substance then a boomerang. However the name calling and personal attacks are all yours.... that’s what I meant. bgw Where's the racism you mention? I know it's a the obligatory knee-jerk reaction, but any specifics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: It's the kernel of truth wrapped in a shell of pablum with a no-solutions-here cherry on top. And Andy still with nothing of substance whatsoever. I guess Andy goes for consistency points. Kinds like the participation trophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, concha said: Where are the name calling and personal attacks in the article? You mostly did that for her but calling people "activists" and then alluding to their "allies in media" is exactly what someone with a clear agenda would do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 43 minutes ago, World Citizen said: Which parts of the article are facts? Seems the article is based off an illogical premise or assumption. Kernel of truth and strawmen along with allusions to "activists" and "their allies in the media." Heather Mac Donald is an agenda-pusher. There can be no question about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 41 minutes ago, concha said: You made an irrelevant point about women in STEM. It wasn't irrelevant. It was a nod to the fact that, yes, some of the claims made by "activists" are silly and not the result of biases. But I already knew that you weren't smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 43 minutes ago, concha said: You made a commentary on the author. I'll pull a concha. Was anything I said incorrect? 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 43 minutes ago, concha said: You asked an irrelevant question about Covid. Pointing out that her writings are pablum and that her record isn't one of a serious person is not at all irrelevant to the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 44 minutes ago, concha said: You've danced and shucked and jived and played the fool (well, nor playing for you) and completely avoided the argument and evidence presented in the article. I addressed the article. You're just incapable or responding constructively because you don't actually care about the topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: I'll pull a concha. Was anything I said incorrect? 🤡 The key word here for you is "irrelevant", Andy. As in, what you wrote was irrelevant. 🤣 You might as well have written posts about today's weather in Libreville, Gabon. You're welcome. 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Pointing out that her writings are pablum and that her record isn't one of a serious person is not at all irrelevant to the topic. Your opinion. And we know how little that is worth. Of course, you completely fail to address the facts she presented. It's typical. Andy doesn't like the point of the article and can't disprove it, so he goes on a Tourette's attack of utter irrelevancies. 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, Ga96 said: So she's a female shapiro Even Ben Shapiro isn't snooty enough to place a space in his last name for reasons unknown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, concha said: The key word here for you is "irrelevant", Andy. As in, what you wrote was irrelevant. But they're not irrelevant as I've shown. You're just incompetent as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, concha said: Your opinion. Which is well-informed. Articles are always offered as "interesting" on subjects that you want dismissed. Any care that you have for the topic ends at is being discussed. The quicker it's dismissed the better. You never actually care about any of it. You don't care about racism. You don't care about policing. You don't care about COVID-19. You want to dismiss all of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 23 minutes ago, concha said: And Andy still with nothing of substance whatsoever. I've given plenty. We all know that you're dumb and lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Which is well-informed. Articles are always offered as "interesting" on subjects that you want dismissed. Any care that you have for the topic ends at is being discussed. The quicker it's dismissed the better. You never actually care about any of it. You don't care about racism. You don't care about policing. You don't care about COVID-19. You want to dismiss all of them. You wouldn't know it given that you literally addressed roughly zero of the article. Or did you mean you're well informed about the weather in Libreville? Andy continues to shuck and jive and dodge actually to avoid coming up with something substantive. It's a clear indication he is completely and utterly incapable of doing so. And he wants us to believe that he actually has the slightest clue about what I care about. He has a wide open invite here to actually address a topic of racism (which I posted because according to Andy I don't care 🤡). But what does Andy do? Anything but address it. 😂 He is as unserious as he is unintelligent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: I've given plenty. We all know that you're dumb and lost. You've been a big zero. Proven. Demonstrated. You probably think are a contributor at the low-paying gubmint bureaucrat job you fail at also. I wouldn't be surprised at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, concha said: You wouldn't know it given that you literally addressed roughly zero of the article. I did address it as anybody can see and I even agreed on a related issue. Again, you're just a lightweight and have exhausted all of your insults and quips by page 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, World Citizen said: I'm saying that the whole article is based off an incorrect assumption. The idea that America is being torn apart from an 'idea of racism' is stupid and places the blame and responsibility on those who are experiencing racism, institutional or otherwise. Tricknology is what that is. I know how this is going to go so I'll leave you to it. So you think there is no basis for the idea that underrepresentation reflects underqualification? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 7, 2020 Report Share Posted December 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, concha said: You've been a big zero. It took me one post for you to breakdown for "serious academic" concha to blithering buffoon who spouts boilerplate phrases about liberals, teacher union henchmen, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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