Biden admits there is no federal solution to the pandemic

[Atticus Finch]

27 minutes ago, Warrior said:

"Gene Therapy" - these are not vaccines as defined by the Center of Disease Control. 

This is a dumb person's idea of what a smart person would say to push anti-vax propaganda.

[concha]

19 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

You didn't even attempt to refute noonereal's comment.

That's because he's pretty much correct.

Federalism *does* inhibit responses to national and international events like pandemics.

You just like to come to attack people for the sake of it even if you don't have anything to actually say on the topic.

 

So the best response is centralized and is not to be disputed.

No difference of opinion permitted.

Got it.

 

[Atticus Finch]

7 minutes ago, concha said:

So the best response is centralized and is not to be disputed.

No difference of opinion permitted.

Got it.

I didn't come remotely close to saying this nor did noonereal.

We know that you don't have a response to that other than to whine and play victim.

[concha]

Just now, Atticus Finch said:

I didn't come remotely close to saying this nor did noonereal.

We know that you don't have a response to that other than to whine and play victim.

 

You feel that states having independence to run their own affairs is a negative.

You are a statist.

And an asshole.

 

[Atticus Finch]

10 minutes ago, concha said:

You feel that states having independence to run their own affairs is a negative.

You are a statist.

And an asshole.

You are just left to lie your ass off as usual.

Funny.

I even said that federalism is more good than bad.

concha is triggered.

[Warrior]

41 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

This is a dumb person's idea of what a smart person would say to push anti-vax propaganda.

 

This is what a dumb person would say when the facts are brought to their attention. 

[Atticus Finch]

4 minutes ago, Warrior said:

This is what a dumb person would say when the facts are brought to their attention. 

Only two of the vaccines use mRNA (Moderna and Pfizer). The rest use the same methods as every other vaccine in history.

So even accounting for your fiction regarding gene therapy, which mRNA is *not*, you're still wrong.

[concha]

20 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

You are just left to lie your ass off as usual.

Funny.

I even said that federalism is more good than bad.

concha is triggered.

 

Do realize that you lie alot about me being a liar?

🤣

 

[Atticus Finch]

3 minutes ago, concha said:

Do realize that you lie alot about me being a liar?

I prove it with your quotes.

That's what really makes you angry.

[concha]

34 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

I prove it with your quotes.

That's what really makes you angry.

 

No.

You post quotes of mine that are backed by the law, ME findings etc.

In short, you make statements that are lies about quotes of mine .

Proven.

You are a liar.

 

[Warrior]

24 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

Only two of the vaccines use mRNA (Moderna and Pfizer). The rest use the same methods as every other vaccine in history.

So even accounting for your fiction regarding gene therapy, which mRNA is *not*, you're still wrong.

 

You realize Moderna and Pfizer make up over 90% of all vaccines administered in the US correct?

According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,¹ a vaccine is “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease.” Immunity, in turn, is defined as “Protection from an infectious disease,” meaning that “If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.”

Neither Moderna nor Pfizer claim this to be the case for their COVID-19 “vaccines.” In fact, in their clinical trials, they specify that they will not even test for immunity. 

Unlike real vaccines, which use an antigen of the disease you’re trying to prevent, the COVID-19 injections contain synthetic RNA fragments encapsulated in a nanolipid carrier compound, the sole purpose of which is to lessen clinical symptoms associated with the S-1 spike protein, not the actual virus. 

They do not actually impart immunity or inhibit transmissibility of the disease. In other words, they are not designed to keep you from getting sick with SARS-CoV-2; they only are supposed to lessen your infection symptoms if or when you do get infected. 

As such, these products do not meet the legal or medical definition of a vaccine, and as noted by David Martin, Ph.D., in the video above, “The legal ramifications of this deception are immense.”

 

[Atticus Finch]

8 minutes ago, concha said:

You post quotes of mine that are backed by the law, ME findings etc.

And then when the law and verdicts don't back up your quotes......you still make the same quotes.

Proving that the law and verdicts have nothing to do with your statements. You say the same thing every time.

Again, proven.

[Atticus Finch]

2 minutes ago, Warrior said:

You realize Moderna and Pfizer make up over 90% of all vaccines administered in the US correct?

And do you know which vaccines have the highest efficacy?

Ding, ding.

[Atticus Finch]

In other words, Warrior is wrong about gene therapy and doesn't seem to understand vaccine technology.

So perfect anti-vaxxer.

[concha]

1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said:

And then when the law and verdicts don't back up your quotes......you still make the same quotes.

Proving that the law and verdicts have nothing to do with your statements. You say the same thing every time.

Again, proven.

 

Even in the Daunte Wright case, he resisted arrest.

Before resisting: Alive

After resisting: Dead

 

Lesson?  Don't resist arrest.

Yet again, I was right.

It is fascinating how such a simple concept makes woke idiots like you lose their minds.

 

[Warrior]

1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said:

And do you know which vaccines have the highest efficacy?

Ding, ding.

 

Efficiency at what exactly? Limiting the effects of the virus or preventing the transmission - be precise. 

[Warrior]

4 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

In other words, Warrior is wrong about gene therapy and doesn't seem to understand vaccine technology.

So perfect anti-vaxxer.

 

Having a debate with someone who is presented with the definition from the CDC but yet still claims to be right is the definition stupidity. 

[Atticus Finch]

9 minutes ago, Warrior said:

Efficiency at what exactly? Limiting the effects of the virus or preventing the transmission - be precise. 

Infection

Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine Overview and Safety

• Based on evidence from clinical trials, in people aged 18 years and older, the Moderna vaccine was 94.1% effective at preventing laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 infection in people who received two doses and had no evidence of being previously infected.
• Evidence shows mRNA COVID-19 vaccines offer similar protection in real-world conditions as they have in clinical trial settings―reducing the risk of COVID-19, including severe illness, by 90% or more among people who are fully vaccinated.

[Atticus Finch]

8 minutes ago, Warrior said:

Having a debate with someone who is presented with the definition from the CDC but yet still claims to be right is the definition stupidity. 

You're left to ask rhetorical questions because you're being beaten back on simple facts.

The CDC itself calls it a vaccine.

This is what's comical about bozos like Warrior.

They try to be cute by using authoritative sources but those very sources refute their claims. 

[Atticus Finch]

13 minutes ago, concha said:

Even in the Daunte Wright case, he resisted arrest.

We got it.

Resist arrest = you deserve to die

Otherwise, I think people understand that law and court proceedings don't matter. concha will always call dead unarmed black men gang-bangers and drug addicts that deserved it.

[concha]

Just now, Atticus Finch said:

We got it.

Resist arrest = you deserve to die

Otherwise, I think people understand that law and court proceedings don't matter. concha will always call dead unarmed black men gang-bangers and drug addicts that deserved it.

 

No, you just continue to lie.

You are filth.

Resist arrest and there is the risk of escalating violence and harm, including the possibility of death. No matter what your skin color.

And Andy is the one actually introducing skin color to begin with.  Not me. Just another example of his dishonesty.  

 

Again, Andy is a race liar.

I would never describe anyone of any color as a gang-banger or drug addict (or user) unless they actually were. 

 

Andy had to make up shit about race because he is a piece of shit race baiter.

He is a reprehensible liar and turd.

 

[Warrior]

4 hours ago, Atticus Finch said:

Infection

Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine Overview and Safety

• Based on evidence from clinical trials, in people aged 18 years and older, the Moderna vaccine was 94.1% effective at preventing laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 infection in people who received two doses and had no evidence of being previously infected.
• Evidence shows mRNA COVID-19 vaccines offer similar protection in real-world conditions as they have in clinical trial settings―reducing the risk of COVID-19, including severe illness, by 90% or more among people who are fully vaccinated.

Do you have a link? I believe your information maybe dated, plus these are laboratory tests. I don’t believe it is 90+% effective limiting infection today. 
 

if you’re high risk, I’m all for it. Mandating kids and healthy adults statistically doesn’t make much sense. 

[Atticus Finch]

10 minutes ago, Warrior said:

Do you have a link

It's in the post dumbass.

[Atticus Finch]

11 minutes ago, Warrior said:

I believe your information maybe dated,

Updated Dec. 14, 2021

🤡

[Warrior]

11 hours ago, Atticus Finch said:

It's in the post dumbass.

Haha, I ask because their numbers don’t support the reality of what is happening today dumbass. Their Gene Therapy isn’t limiting the spread as we have more cases now than this same time last year w/many being the vaccinated. Think they should update their marketing information to reflect more accurate information.