badrouter Posted January 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said: No, he didn't. You claimed that he said vaccinated people should not spend the holidays with others when he said the exact opposite thing. He said: “If your plans are to go to a 40- to 50-person New Year’s Eve party with all the bells and whistles and everybody hugging and kissing and wishing each other a happy new year, I would strongly recommend that this year we do not do that,” Fauci said during the White House COVID-19 briefing Wednesday.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted January 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 The fact that he said those very things that he said gives the strong impression that the vaccine doesn’t keep people safe. That amounts to misinformation. Of course, NOTHING Fauci says will EVER be categorized as misinformation, precisely because he said it, and The Narrative states that he can never be wrong about anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 hours ago, badrouter said: This is ridiculous. He “strongly recommended” that they not kiss, hug or gather outside the home. Why are you so dishonest? I posted his exact quote. 👇 5 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: “If your plans are to go to a 40- to 50-person New Year’s Eve party with all the bells and whistles and everybody hugging and kissing and wishing each other a happy new year, I would strongly recommend that this year we do not do that. Although the risk is never zero in anything, the risk is low enough that we feel you should continue to go through with those plans of having a home-related vaccinated, boosted gathering with family and close friends who are also vaccinated and boosted.” He strongly recommended not going to a large gathering where everybody was hugging and kissing. He said people should continue with their plans for smaller gatherings of friends and family. You are a psycho. And a liar. That second part is important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 hours ago, badrouter said: He said: “If your plans are to go to a 40- to 50-person New Year’s Eve party with all the bells and whistles and everybody hugging and kissing and wishing each other a happy new year, I would strongly recommend that this year we do not do that,” Fauci said during the White House COVID-19 briefing Wednesday.” The issue here is that *you* lied about what he said. A reminder that this is what you actually said. 👇 22 hours ago, badrouter said: Public health officials said that fully vaccinated people were not safe to celebrate the holidays with others. And this is what Fauci actually said. 👇 5 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: “If your plans are to go to a 40- to 50-person New Year’s Eve party with all the bells and whistles and everybody hugging and kissing and wishing each other a happy new year, I would strongly recommend that this year we do not do that. Although the risk is never zero in anything, the risk is low enough that we feel you should continue to go through with those plans of having a home-related vaccinated, boosted gathering with family and close friends who are also vaccinated and boosted.” So he said the exact opposite of what you claimed. Like literally the *exact* opposite. And you wonder why Fauci says he's being attacked. Because clowns like you are craven liars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 hours ago, badrouter said: The fact that he said those very things that he said gives the strong impression that the vaccine doesn’t keep people safe. That amounts to misinformation. Of course, NOTHING Fauci says will EVER be categorized as misinformation, precisely because he said it, and The Narrative states that he can never be wrong about anything. The fact is that you lied about what he said and a dedicated hack who will say virtually anything to stick to your guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 20, 2022 Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 Which badouter lie was your favorite? The one where he claimed: 6 hours ago, badrouter said: You will find ABSOLUTELY ZERO mention of this in mainstream media or from public health officials here. When that piece had been published by just about every single news outlet in America. Or is the one where he tried to save face from his previous lie..... 5 hours ago, badrouter said: Do any of those links contain public health officials here in the USA discussing the fact that younger men should consider not getting the Moderna? only to find out that the New York Times published an article about the FDA looking into the data from Sweden? Or maybe it was the one where he claimed: 22 hours ago, badrouter said: Public health officials said that fully vaccinated people were not safe to celebrate the holidays with others. When in fact they had said the *exact* opposite? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted January 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2022 20 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: The issue here is that *you* lied about what he said. A reminder that this is what you actually said. 👇 And this is what Fauci actually said. 👇 So he said the exact opposite of what you claimed. Like literally the *exact* opposite. And you wonder why Fauci says he's being attacked. Because clowns like you are craven liars. Why would he strongly recommend people not doing something…unless the something was not safe? Quite obviously, the strong recommendation was because he didn’t deem those actions to be safe. And those actions are VERY typical NYE activities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 It does not matter what Fauci says. Virtually no one listens to him anymore. It does not matter whether what he says is useful or not. He is a confirmed, admitted liar - so anything he says is viewed with skepticism. He says something one day, and something 180 degrees different the next. Plus he talks so much, he has become the white noise of the pandemic. He has been an abject failure as an advisor and as a messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted January 21, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 Link of interest: The cult of masked schoolchildren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 19 hours ago, badrouter said: Why would he strongly recommend people not doing something…unless the something was not safe? This is what feckless people like badrouter are left to when their lies are exposed. The record is crystal clear. You said this. 👇 On 1/19/2022 at 7:00 PM, badrouter said: Public health officials said that fully vaccinated people were not safe to celebrate the holidays with others. And Fauci said this. 👇 On 1/20/2022 at 11:43 AM, Atticus Finch said: “If your plans are to go to a 40- to 50-person New Year’s Eve party with all the bells and whistles and everybody hugging and kissing and wishing each other a happy new year, I would strongly recommend that this year we do not do that. Although the risk is never zero in anything, the risk is low enough that we feel you should continue to go through with those plans of having a home-related vaccinated, boosted gathering with family and close friends who are also vaccinated and boosted.” You are so deluded that you refuse to give up on this obvious lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 19 hours ago, badrouter said: Quite obviously, the strong recommendation was because he didn’t deem those actions to be safe. In order to preserve his lie, badrouter falls back to his strawman+assertion strategy. He strawman's and then extrapolates his own meaning on top of it. And by calling it a strawman I'm being kind. He actually is just straight up lying now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 16 hours ago, Bormio said: It does not matter what Fauci says. And a cherry on top. badrouter lies about Fauci, I prove it, badrouter tries to save face and Bormio comes in with the "it doesn't matter what Fauci said!" line. The perfect right-wing, anti-vax, anti-expert response. Nothing will get in the way of the badrouter/Bormio agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 16 hours ago, Bormio said: It does not matter what Fauci says. Virtually no one listens to him anymore. It does not matter whether what he says is useful or not. He is a confirmed, admitted liar - so anything he says is viewed with skepticism. He says something one day, and something 180 degrees different the next. Plus he talks so much, he has become the white noise of the pandemic. He has been an abject failure as an advisor and as a messenger. Just wait until you see the track record of this guy called Bormio aka Dr. Quack. You're gonna love eviscerating him for his lies, misconceptions and bogus claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildcat Will Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 1/17/2022 at 6:06 PM, Atticus Finch said: Biden already called for an intelligence investigation. Biden orders spy agencies to review whether COVID-19 came from Wuhan lab It's findings? No proof of anything. But who would be your "unbiased" experts? This should be good. I can tell you now that intelligence is going to be hard to find. The lack of it is how we got here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 21, 2022 Report Share Posted January 21, 2022 15 hours ago, badrouter said: Link of interest: The cult of masked schoolchildren The proclivity for people like you to link to self-refuting articles by people who are clearly pushing an agenda contrary to the data they cite is quite amazing. The first hyperlink the author cites is from the UK. The U.K. government recently commissioned a report on the efficacy of masks in school settings, which failed to identify any clear evidence in favor of this practice. So you'd think that clicking the hyperlink would lead you to a source that says, unequivocally, there's no clear evidence in favor of masking for kids, right? Wrong. First, it's findings on masking in general: Face coverings can be effective in contributing to reducing transmission of COVID-19 in public and community settings. This is informed by a range of research, including randomised control trials, contact tracing studies, and observational studies – assessed most recently by UKHSA, described in a review conducted in November 2021. The review’s conclusions were broadly in line with those of a previous Public Health England review; however, the addition of randomised control trials and substantially more individual-level observational studies increases the strength of the conclusions and strengthens the evidence for the effectiveness of face coverings in reducing the spread of COVID-19 in the community, through source control, wearer protection, and universal masking. So no equivocations there on masking. It reduces the transmission of COVID. But this was about *children* masking in schools. Surely, this link will then support what the author said. Wrong. He used weasel words when citing a report that supported the efficacy of masks in schools. Whilst not conclusive, there are now a number of scientific studies which consider the association between COVID-19 and the use of face coverings specifically in education settings. The review of evidence conducted by UKHSA included evidence from studies in schools and summer camp settings. These were observational and therefore due to limitations in the studies, the results provide less direct evidence of the effectiveness of face coverings than randomised control trials. The results were mixed but taken together support the conclusion that the use of face coverings in schools can contribute to reducing COVID-19 transmission. So they don't have randomized trials but the balance of the evidence says the same as above: masks reduce the transmission of COVID in schools. Did the author mention that? Nope. He snipped out the outcome that he wanted to present and moved on. He made no mention whatsoever of the *actual* findings of the very study that he linked to. But, wait, there's more. There have also been several studies in the USA, comparing schools in US counties with and without mask requirements for students, including two recent studies from the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention. These were excluded from the latest UKHSA review (due to the type of study design) or published after the cut-off date, but generally find higher rates of COVID-19 in schools without mask requirements, compared to those with mask requirements. Did the author mention *that* at all? Of course not. He made *zero* mention of any of the actual science or research done in the link that he provided. It's just an op-ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted January 22, 2022 Report Share Posted January 22, 2022 Always remember there is no money in natural immunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 Says Voltaire said, “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., attempted to take a swipe at Dr. Anthony Fauci, the White House’s chief medical adviser, with a quote appearing to come from a deep thinker. "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize," said the quote, which was credited to Voltaire, the French writer and philosopher, in the image Massie shared. "You mustn’t question Fauci, for he is science," Massie wrote above the quote. The same quote and citation are also circulating on Facebook. But Voltaire didn’t say this. The original speaker is Kevin Alfred Strom, a white nationalist and Holocaust denier who founded the neo-Nazi group National Vanguard in 2005, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. He pleaded guilty in 2008 to possession of child pornography and was sentenced to 23 months in prison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted February 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said: Says Voltaire said, “To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” Rep. Thomas Massie, R-Ky., attempted to take a swipe at Dr. Anthony Fauci, the White House’s chief medical adviser, with a quote appearing to come from a deep thinker. "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize," said the quote, which was credited to Voltaire, the French writer and philosopher, in the image Massie shared. "You mustn’t question Fauci, for he is science," Massie wrote above the quote. The same quote and citation are also circulating on Facebook. But Voltaire didn’t say this. The original speaker is Kevin Alfred Strom, a white nationalist and Holocaust denier who founded the neo-Nazi group National Vanguard in 2005, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. He pleaded guilty in 2008 to possession of child pornography and was sentenced to 23 months in prison. So this is the depths to which Politifact has dropped. The matter of who said what ancient quote is in need of “fact-checking”. 🤦♂️ Truth of the matter is, health officials, Fauci in particular, HAVE been beyond reproach for two years. And there really is immense danger in such dynamics. This remains the case regardless of who said exactly what before any of us were alive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, badrouter said: So this is the depths to which Politifact has dropped. The matter of who said what ancient quote is in need of “fact-checking”. 🤦♂️ The fact that a known COVID goofball like Massie thinks he's being smart and quoting Voltaire but is actually quoting a Neo-Nazi is, indeed, noteworthy. So, yes, I'd say that a sitting Congressman citing a Neo-Nazi in an effort to attack the nation's leading doctor during a pandemic is worthy of a fact-check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 12 minutes ago, badrouter said: Truth of the matter is, health officials, Fauci in particular, HAVE been beyond reproach for two years. And there really is immense danger in such dynamics. This remains the case regardless of who said exactly what before any of us were alive. The problem for you is that none of the people doing the criticizing are experts in the field, credible or either. It also doesn't help that they are mostly politically motivated. Massie is just a great avatar for ignorant dipshit libertarians who pose as intellectuals but are actually quite ignorant of, well, everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, badrouter said: So this is the depths to which Politifact has dropped. The matter of who said what ancient quote is in need of “fact-checking”. 🤦♂️ Truth of the matter is, health officials, Fauci in particular, HAVE been beyond reproach for two years. And there really is immense danger in such dynamics. This remains the case regardless of who said exactly what before any of us were alive. Ancient quote? Facts are still important Mr. Ted K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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badrouter Posted February 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: The problem for you is that none of the people doing the criticizing are experts in the field, credible or either. It also doesn't help that they are mostly politically motivated. Massie is just a great avatar for ignorant dipshit libertarians who pose as intellectuals but are actually quite ignorant of, well, everything. This is patently false. I can’t speak for Massey, I know nothing about him specifically. But, you can find an extremely long list of highly qualified doctors who’ve criticized Fauci, other public health leaders and the CDC. And many if not most of them identify as being on the left/voting Democrat. That you weren’t aware of this likely reflects the nature of the media echo chamber you’ve resided in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, badrouter said: This is patently false. I can’t speak for Massey, I know nothing about him specifically. Well, let me help you out. He's even less qualified than eye doctor Rand Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, badrouter said: That you weren’t aware of this likely reflects the nature of the media echo chamber you’ve resided in. Get a grip, Unabomber. I'm talking about the political stuntmen like Massie, Paul and others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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