aZjimbo Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 47 minutes ago, DBP66 said: who said the Cowboys would win a S.B. last year??...starting a rookie Q.B.?!?...not me...I would have been happy with an 8-8 season from a rookie Q.B....so stop the B.S. 2 S.B. titles?...how did they win those games James?...with defense...the giants rode their defense to both S.B. wins...you know that...Eli was along for the ride....yea I know "he was a S.B. MVP"....so what.... so was Jim Plunkett and Doug Williams.... Yea Eli didn't make any clutch plays or throws right georgie? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 47 minutes ago, TheRealCAJ said: NO, you idiots claimed he would never see the field in the NFL because he WAS from Louisiana. I said he had all the tools. I just spiced it up, jimmy.. Sorry idiot but I never said one word about Dak. It's clowns like you that have him the best qb in the league already. I guess you never heard of Brady, Rogers, Brees etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 Only #dumbchip would be goofy enough to claim that Prescott "might be the best QB in the NFL." Jesus. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted September 14, 2017 Report Share Posted September 14, 2017 2 hours ago, Mjd33 said: He's good but Luck, Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Carr, Winston, Mariota, Wilson all prob better. Edit ... rivers, Big Ben, matt Ryan can be added. Whoa there MJD...I agree with Rodgers, Brady and Bree's. Winston Mariota and Wilson...no way But let's give him a second year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 2 hours ago, aZjimbo said: Yea Eli didn't make any clutch plays or throws right georgie? he thew a ball up for grabs and the guy caught the ball against his helmet!!...talk about lucky!!... and Justin Tuck should have won MVP the other game...he dominated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRam Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 9 hours ago, nptb17 said: Did Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, and Eli Manning retire? Yeah, just a little hyperbole going on. That said, Caj is right in that most observers vastly underrated this kid. I know I did. During the midst of his preseason last year, I thought he would be in for a very rude awakening. But it hasn't happened yet. Sure, all the talent that surrounds him surely means a lot. But DAK has been much better than I ever expected him to be. 5 hours ago, nptb17 said: Eli behind Dallas' offensive line would be a problem. Totally agree. And I'm far from a GIANTS fan or a fan of the MANNING's. But we've seen what ELI can do when he's got some talent around him. Last I checked, the G MEN have won 2 Superbowls with him at the helm, both over Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. The only 2 losses that QB/coach tandem has suffered, if I'm not mistaken. People always point to the TYREE catch and the magnificent defensive effort the G-MEN put on display, but those same people forget the incredible escape ELI made to even get that pass off to TYREE. His HOF brother never could have made that same play. Never. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Hey Peyton could have extended that play...look what he did to his own forehead 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 On 9/14/2017 at 4:45 PM, I AM IRONMAN said: Whoa there MJD...I agree with Rodgers, Brady and Bree's. Winston Mariota and Wilson...no way But let's give him a second year Wilson is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, steeler01 said: WInston, Mariota and Wilson are better. Nope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 3 hours ago, Mjd33 said: He's good but Luck, Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Carr, Winston, Mariota, Wilson all prob better. Edit ... rivers, Big Ben, matt Ryan can be added. Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRam Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 10 minutes ago, steeler01 said: WInston, Mariota and Wilson are better. Wilson, I agree. But Winston and Mariota are stretches. I like Jameis Winston a lot, and he has some talent to work with too .. those receivers are legit ... but I couldn't say that he's clearly better right now. And he's got 1 extra yr of NFL experience on DAK, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, ThunderRam said: Wilson, I agree. But Winston and Mariota are stretches. I like Jameis Winston a lot, and he has some talent to work with too .. those receivers are legit ... but I couldn't say that he's clearly better right now. And he's got 1 extra yr of NFL experience on DAK, too. Wilson nor Mariota have the O-line nor the weapons that Dak has at his disposal. How easy would it be for Wilson if he had all day to throw the ball or if he had Ezekiel to run it, to take pressure off of him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Oh please...I can say the same about Having the Legion of Doom defense and beast mode. give the guy some time ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said: Oh please...I can say the same about Having the Legion of Doom defense and beast mode. give the guy some time ... How does the Legion of Boom defense help Russell Wilson as a QB? Did the Ravens defense make Trent Dilfer a top QB? Beast Mode vs Bryant, Witten, Eliott, and the best offensive line in the NFL That's one HOF and and two guys that are at the top of the NFL at their positions currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 C'mon Steeler...you are better then that! Must be a typo ... Did the Ravens defense make Trent Dilfer a top QB? Absofuckinglutly the did! Wow...really? Most pedestrian SB winning QB ever...I hope you are sipping on a wee bit too much of the creature this evening ole boy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 "How does the Legion of Boom defense help Russell Wilson as a QB?" we we just might have to revoke your status! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 11 hours ago, nptb17 said: Did Tom Brady, Aaron Rogers, Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger, and Eli Manning retire? He is better than Eli Manning IMHO! Who in that group was any better than Dak as a Rookie? Besides being very good so far as a Pro - Dak is a good dude! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 1 minute ago, Texasball said: He is better than Eli Manning IMHO! Who in that group was any better than Dak as a Rookie? Besides being very good so far as a Pro - Dak is a good dude! Big Ben was better plus he didn't have the best offensive line in the NFL on top of all of the qb friendly rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 2 hours ago, steeler01 said: WInston, Mariota and Wilson are better. Only Wilson could logically be argued. Done Dak is better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 9 minutes ago, Texasball said: Only Wilson could logically be argued. Done Dak is better All three can easily be argued, and are better. All three of those guys carry their offenses, Dak doesn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, steeler01 said: All three can easily be argued, and are better. All three of those guys carry their offenses, Dak doesn't. Ok assuming you watched no Cowboys games last year....I get it...he is a rookie, but DAMN did he step up...check downs vs. Whatever the D threw at him...c'mon son, give the man some credit!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 Steeler....you are better then that man!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 15 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said: Ok assuming you watched no Cowboys games last year....I get it...he is a rookie, but DAMN did he step up...check downs vs. Whatever the D threw at him...c'mon son, give the man some credit!!! I think Dak is good, but I think the guys we are talking about are better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aZjimbo Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 3 hours ago, DBP66 said: he thew a ball up for grabs and the guy caught the ball against his helmet!!...talk about lucky!!... and Justin Tuck should have won MVP the other game...he dominated. You know nothing about football and of course politics. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderRam Posted September 15, 2017 Report Share Posted September 15, 2017 4 hours ago, steeler01 said: Wilson nor Mariota have the O-line nor the weapons that Dak has at his disposal. How easy would it be for Wilson if he had all day to throw the ball or if he had Ezekiel to run it, to take pressure off of him? You're not getting an argument from me on Wilson. I think he's tremendous and I'd certainly take him over Dak. And you're right about Mariota not having the same line or weapons. But that still doesn't mean he's better. Perhaps you're right and he will be if ever given the same circumstances. But just going off what we've seen to this point, I'm not convinced he's better than Dak. Winston definitely has weapons though. MIke Evans is probably the best receiver among all the teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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