Tampa Bay Area in Semifinals

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4M- Plant @ Columbus- Plant first time back in the semis in several years. Columbus defending state champs. Plant's best offensive player re-injured his nagging ankle injury Friday night but they still found a way. 11 in a row. Only two losses were close losses to BP who is still alive (see below) and Tech, who just lost a close one to Jones. Plant will need to find at least 24 points next week to have a shot and the defense has to continue to swarm. Columbus the favorite.Saw Columbus beat Jesuit pretty handily this year but the Tigers got better as the year went. Columbus will have a big size advantage on the lines. Pulling for Plant but Columbus likely wins by at least 10 at home. If the game was at Plant I'd think they'd find some Dad's Stadium magic, but it will tough on the road.

3M- Gaither @ St. Thomas Aquinas- HUGE win for Cowboys in OT over Jesuit. They go 5-5 in the regular season and then step up playing out of their minds. Of course when you play 14 time state champion Aquinas, you will likely be outclassed. But much respect to the Cowboys for pulling a stunner over Jesuit. Probably Aquinas by 21 or more.

2M- Berkeley @ Am. Heritage Plantation- Again, going on road to play National Power. Berekely has the horses to hang with AHP, but AHP is the favorite. Winner likely gets Norland, who only beat 10-time state champ Central twice this year. Go Bucs! Very close game but Tampa team going on road to play national power probably means a close AHP win. 

1M- Jax TCA v. CCC- Two perenniel winners. TCA has hardware and CCC wants a title. Game at CCC helps. I think they can win a pretty close game. Winner gets the unenviable task of likely taking on CM. 

[RedZone]

4 minutes ago, 181pl said:

3M- Gaither @ St. Thomas Aquinas- HUGE win for Cowboys in OT over Jesuit. They go 5-5 in the regular season and then step up playing out of their minds. Of course when you play 14 time state champion Aquinas, you will likely be outclassed. But much respect to the Cowboys for pulling a stunner over Jesuit. Probably Aquinas by 21 or more.

A lot more ..

49-0 sounds about right.

[181pl]

56 minutes ago, RedZone said:

A lot more ..

49-0 sounds about right.

I was being nice to the Gaither fans

[Nolebull813]

Tampa area will go 1-3 with CCC being the only expected winner. 

[181pl]

all are traveling except ccc. 

[Nolebull813]

3 minutes ago, 181pl said:

all are traveling except ccc. 

Wouldn’t matter where these games were played. 3 running clocks and a black eye on the FHSAA

[TheMaximumHornetSting]

1 minute ago, Nolebull813 said:

Wouldn’t matter where these games were played. 3 running clocks and a black eye on the FHSAA

Why are STA and AHP in 3A and 2A?

[Nolebull813]

14 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said:

Why are STA and AHP in 3A and 2A?

Because the state association is incompetent 

[TheMaximumHornetSting]

8 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said:

Because the state association is incompetent 

Fucking ridiculous

[Omaha Vol]

3 hours ago, Nolebull813 said:

Because the state association is incompetent 

They can't opt to move up like Buford did in Georgia?

[Nolebull813]

30 minutes ago, Omaha Vol said:

They can't opt to move up like Buford did in Georgia?

It’s not the same as other states. They are 2M and 3M which is the metro classes. These teams used to be 5A, 6A and 7A 

[Omaha Vol]

1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said:

It’s not the same as other states. They are 2M and 3M which is the metro classes. These teams used to be 5A, 6A and 7A 

So, they could all move up to 4M, right? 
 

M is for Metro, R is for Rural (I’m assuming) and S is for….Suburbs? 

[Atticus Finch]

6 hours ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said:

Fucking ridiculous

Don't listen to him. He's an idiot regarding state associations and classifications.

STA and American Heritage are not close in enrollment. There's no situation wherein they'd be in the same class outside of an open division.

[TheMaximumHornetSting]

3 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

Don't listen to him. He's an idiot regarding state associations and classifications.

STA and American Heritage are not close in enrollment. There's no situation wherein they'd be in the same class outside of an open division.

Im ngl I just saw yall abandoned the A classification for Some Metro Classification? 

But even still I know AHP is a little smaller than STA... 

Because AHP used to be 5A and STA 7A

[181pl]

15 hours ago, Nolebull813 said:

Wouldn’t matter where these games were played. 3 running clocks and a black eye on the FHSAA

🤡🤡🤡🤡

[941Indian]

23 hours ago, RedZone said:

A lot more ..

49-0 sounds about right.

It’s a shame. Of all the teams in 3M North that may have stayed within 21 points of STA, they draw Gaither, who will get their brains beaten in by 40 or more points. 

[181pl]

9 hours ago, Atticus Finch said:

Don't listen to him. He's an idiot regarding state associations and classifications.

STA and American Heritage are not close in enrollment. There's no situation wherein they'd be in the same class outside of an open division.

Enrollment for a private school doesn’t mean shit once they are recruited up juggernauts . And you know it. Chaminade Madonna is tiny. Yet they will whoop any school with enrollment of 3000 or more in the state easily. The FHSAA sucks a select group of private schools off, including STA’, so you clowns can collect paper titles at the expense of actual high school teams. 

The FHSAA is an embarrassment and always has been. Since they actually won’t fix the classes the only way to get this right in a minor way would be to throw all the super teams into an open division whoch should include IMG. Then you and morons like NB13 can wax about how great the teams are. 

[181pl]

16 hours ago, Nolebull813 said:

Wouldn’t matter where these games were played. 3 running clocks and a black eye on the FHSAA

Why should Gaither ever be playing St. Thomas Aquinas? Why should any recruited up private school that draws players in a national level be playing a run of the mill public school? Gaither is about as run of the mill public school as you can get but they are classified with a super team? 

The goal should not be to keep good high school teams out of the playoffs. It should be to classify them correctly. 

Enrollment matters for public schools and for private schools that have not whored themselves out to athletics (like STA, AHP, CM etc). 

Also, the notion that public teams can compete with whored out privates because of MC is clown fodder There is one tiny area in the country where this is true and it’s because they have completely open enrollment and look the other way at the issue. Only  applies to a small circle of schools. Central, MNW, BTW and occasionally Carol City and Norland. No other area in FLA or the US for that matter can consistently create a public school super team. Which is done bc of disproportionate talent, open enrollment, and the county looking the other way on recruiting. 

Need 4 large public classes and 3 private classes, including IMG. 

[Atticus Finch]

31 minutes ago, 181pl said:

Enrollment for a private school doesn’t mean shit once they are recruited up juggernauts . And you know it. Chaminade Madonna is tiny. Yet they will whoop any school with enrollment of 3000 or more in the state easily. The FHSAA sucks a select group of private schools off, including STA’, so you clowns can collect paper titles at the expense of actual high school teams. 

Was this supposed to refute my completely factual statement?

The private schools have no power in the FHSAA. They almost uniformly opposed every single change that has been implemented in the last 5+ years.

What's more is that these changes have made it easier for crappy teams like Plant to win championships, not the private schools which were already winning them. You're the one clamoring for more classes and more separation of schools so said crappy Plant team's can more "state" championships.

[Atticus Finch]

33 minutes ago, 181pl said:

The FHSAA is an embarrassment and always has been. Since they actually won’t fix the classes the only way to get this right in a minor way would be to throw all the super teams into an open division whoch should include IMG. Then you and morons like NB13 can wax about how great the teams are. 

Again, what's embarrassing is your stupidity.

The FHSAA is doing what the Plant's and other crappy schools wants. Then their fanboys get mad about said changes and blame the FHSAA.

[181pl]

11 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

Was this supposed to refute my completely factual statement?

The private schools have no power in the FHSAA. They almost uniformly opposed every single change that has been implemented in the last 5+ years.

What's more is that these changes have made it easier for crappy teams like Plant to win championships, not the private schools which were already winning them. You're the one clamoring for more classes and more separation of schools so said crappy Plant team's can more "state" championships.

Plant, Lakeland, Manatee, Apoka, Cocoa, etc are different animals than STA. End of story. Why doesn’t STA want to compete with IMG. Cowardice? IMG plays public  schools and other recruited up private whores but STA avoids them like the plague. Pathetic. 

[181pl]

3 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

Again, what's embarrassing is your stupidity.

The FHSAA is doing what the Plant's and other crappy schools wants. Then their fanboys get mad about said changes and blame the FHSAA.

The FHSAA is a clown show controlled by a morons and influenced by schools like STA. 

Plant is a top 100 academic public school consistently and has a great athletic program but it’s not set up to compete with private schools who whore out to athletics. That’s why the IMGs, STAs, AHPs, CMs of the world should compete with each other for titles. But schools like STA are too cowardly to do so. 

[Atticus Finch]

6 minutes ago, 181pl said:

The FHSAA is a clown show controlled by a morons and influenced by schools like STA. 

Plant is a top 100 academic public school consistently and has a great athletic program but it’s not set up to compete with private schools who whore out to athletics. That’s why the IMGs, STAs, AHPs, CMs of the world should compete with each other for titles. But schools like STA are too cowardly to do so. 

I'm convinced that you just spout the first stupid, inane thing that comes to your head.

I wonder why you and Nolebull813 don't like each other because you do the same exact things and know next to nothing about how it all works.

[181pl]

The whole stupid metro and suburban classification was done to avoid the public v private issue. Because of schools like STA unduly influencing the FHSAA. Under the artificial construct that public schools could compete with private schools if they had open enrollment, and then they point to Miami Central example which is a fallacy. If this was the case, Ely or Dillard would beat STA more than once every 20 years.

 

you didn’t see schools like Apopka complaining that they couldn’t compete with the metro team like plant. It’s quite the opposite. Regional schools actually have an advantage because they’re the only game in town and people grow up in the system and love it. Then you crowd 30 schools together in Tampa competing for a OK talent pool and that lie completely falls apart. The only logical argument for open enrollment would have been very large public schools losing titles to CM or MNW.  That was true for a brief moment in time about 10-15 years ago when the Miami schools were playing up (probably to avoid STA). But those Miami super schools have smaller enrollments and have been classified correctly for a while now. 

[181pl]

6 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:

I'm convinced that you just spout the first stupid, inane thing that comes to your head.

I wonder why you and Nolebull813 don't like each other because you do the same exact things and know next to nothing about how it all works.

 

I don’t dislike NB813. I’ve actually met him. We met at the STA jesuit game a few years back. He’s a nice guy. We just have different views on things lately.