On2whls Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 16 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: In fact, you probably don't even know this but we basically just use the money to buy weapons from American arms manufacturers and ship them over. As long as there's money to be made off a war, we'll be there to support it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted April 26 Author Report Share Posted April 26 @concha chuck has yet to even acknowledge or denounce Charlottesville > mute J6 = same mute button Guess what? Charlottesville is back in the news. Thanks, donald.. It's like the whole world is happening right in front of chuck and refuses to accept any of it But if you need a gas price chart chuck is your man/fool, belie.ve that Trump Says Gaza Protests Are More Hateful Than Charlottesville Nazi Rally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 56 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Frank Luntz would be proud of this kind of propaganda and toadyism. Andy is mad because I exposed his lack of patriotism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 Let's try this again: Andy, do you think that if we enter into a defense pact with another nation that they should meet their pledges and obligations under that agreement? Yes? Or no? Further... if said ally or allies are chronically negligent in meeting the terms of the agreement - to the point where they cannot even begin to meet their obligations - do you think we should just STFU and take it for years and decades? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 7 minutes ago, concha said: Andy is mad because I exposed his lack of patriotism. "America First" as a theme is racist, nationalist tripe. The Klan was one of the greatest early purveyors of the slogan. I understand that they're your political allies now but still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 12 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: "America First" as a theme is racist, nationalist tripe. The Klan was one of the greatest early purveyors of the slogan. I understand that they're your political allies now but still. No. Nothing wrong with putting your own country first. It just hurts your leftist, globalist feels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 Helping other people is ok IF and only IF it’s not at the hindrance of your own. Imagine how your family would feel if they were starving and they watched you feed the neighborhood and then claim to be a good person who help others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 58 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: "America First" as a theme is racist, nationalist tripe. The Klan was one of the greatest early purveyors of the slogan. I understand that they're your political allies now but still. You know what else the Klan likes? Food and water. So if you like food and water you are on your way to being a Grand Wizard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted April 26 Author Report Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, RedZone said: @concha chuck has yet to even acknowledge or denounce Charlottesville > mute J6 = same mute button Guess what? Charlottesville is back in the news. Thanks, donald.. It's like the whole world is happening right in front of chuck and refuses to accept any of it But if you need a gas price chart chuck is your man/fool, belie.ve that Trump Says Gaza Protests Are More Hateful Than Charlottesville Nazi Rally .donald and chuck live in the exact same world and what a truly fucked up world that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, concha said: No. Nothing wrong with putting your own country first. But, as any adult can attest, sentiment isn't always correlated with the language. America First has an unequivocally racist and xenophobic history in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 21 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Helping other people is ok IF and only IF it’s not at the hindrance of your own. This is typical Nolebull813 tomfoolery. Proof of how phony his populist claims are. It reminds me of how they whine that protests are only acceptable if they don't make them uncomfortable or force them to change their ways at all. Such humanitarians! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 1 hour ago, concha said: Andy, do you think that if we enter into a defense pact with another nation that they should meet their pledges and obligations under that agreement? Yes? Or no? Typical concha dishonest framing. Per usual. If serious people enter an agreement that calls for other countries to spend 2% of their *own* GDP on defense and they spend 1.4% but they've made pledges to increase it, said serious people don't vow to cancel the agreement. Donald Trump is not a serious person and neither are you. This isn't a slum in Queens. This isn't a money making scheme. This isn't a shakedown opportunity. I know that this doesn't compute with you because everything is a shakedown opportunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 59 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: "America First" as a theme is racist, nationalist tripe. The Klan was one of the greatest early purveyors of the slogan. I understand that they're your political allies now but still. Can you explain what are the negative consequences of putting as first priority over any other country? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 28 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: So if you like food and water you are on your way to being a Grand Wizard But the Klan doesn't like my preferred political candidates or agree with practically any of my preferred policies. So other than your totally irrelevant digression we're left with zero contribution from you here. As usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 6 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: This is typical Nolebull813 tomfoolery. Proof of how phony his populist claims are. It reminds me of how they whine that protests are only acceptable if they don't make them uncomfortable or force them to change their ways at all. Such humanitarians! You can’t protest on my private property. You can’t protest where your actions cause violence or damage. Your vague language of me being uncomfortable doesn’t guarantee my safety and that’s where it ceases to just be a protest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Can you explain what are the negative consequences of putting as first priority over any other country? If you had paid any attention, which you almost assuredly have not, then you'd know that the wording doesn't accurately describe the movement. Unless you also think that the Democratic Republic of North Korea is a democracy and a republic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 3 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: You can’t protest on my private property. Nobody suggested that anybody could do this. A dodge as per your toady playbook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 3 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: You can’t protest where your actions cause violence or damage. Again, also not suggested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 2 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: But the Klan doesn't like my preferred political candidates or agree with practically any of my preferred policies. So other than your totally irrelevant digression we're left with zero contribution from you here. As usual. But you have plenty of domestic terrorists that support the Democrat party. Antifa, BLM, Nation of Islam, socialist, communist, and Marxist groups etc etc. And there are way more of that here than some rednecks in the back woods of Arkansas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 38 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Your vague language of me being uncomfortable doesn’t guarantee my safety and that’s where it ceases to just be a protest Colin Kaepernick protested silently and was insulted, maligned and blackballed. He neither caused nor incited any violence. He didn't do it on your private property. And you still screamed and yelled and called him names. You're totally disingenuous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: Colin Kaepernick protested silently and was insulted, maligned and blackballed. He neither caused nor incited any violence. He didn't do it on your private property. And you still screamed and yelled and called him names. You're totally disingenuous. I said he intentionally and premeditated to do it during a time to celebrate patriotism. It was symbolic to make it an Anti-American theme. And just because someone is allowed to protest, doesn’t mean others aren’t allowed to have an opinion about it. And he was at work on the clock. There could be rules against that. Does your job allow you to protest on the clock during down time? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 12 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Colin Kaepernick protested silently and was insulted, maligned and blackballed. He neither caused nor incited any violence. He didn't do it on your private property. And you still screamed and yelled and called him names. You're totally disingenuous. He was insulted, maligned and blackballed for being a piece of shit: He was radicalized as evidenced by his social media accounts. Littered with anti American propaganda. He wore socks with police as pigs at work. He wore clothes and hats depicting extremists. You have the right to do all that, but I also have the right not to associate in any with you. Just like NFL owners don’t 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 8 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: But you have plenty of domestic terrorists that support the Democrat party. Antifa, BLM, Nation of Islam, socialist, communist, and Marxist groups etc etc. A lot of confusion here from you which is standard. None of them are terrorist organizations and Antifa, again, isn't even a group of any kind. The fact that you think the Nation of Islam "supports the Democratic Party" is both funny and pathetic. It proves that your understanding of this stuff is childish and rudimentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 22 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: I said he intentionally and premeditated to do it during a time to celebrate patriotism. It was symbolic to make it an Anti-American theme. Again, he dared to protest when it would get people's attention. The actual point of protesting. So as long as he doesn't protest at a time that offends you and only protests things that you agree with then it's A-OK! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 24 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: And just because someone is allowed to protest, doesn’t mean others aren’t allowed to have an opinion about it. Interestingly enough, your opinions are always that any protest with which you disagree with is un-American or other such nonsense. And when you give up objective criteria for what constitutes an offensive protest, an example can always be found of you breaking those criteria to criticize a black person, a gay person, a trans person, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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