RedZone Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 I've been digging into it a little bit and most of the reasons I see are total bullshit. ....putin and russia are Paper Tigers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 9 minutes ago, RedZone said: I've been digging into it a little bit and most of the reasons I see are total bullshit. ....putin and russia are Paper Tigers. Maybe it has something to do with the fact we have given Ukraine every penny that was supposed to go for American roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, poverty, and hunger. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted April 25 Author Report Share Posted April 25 I watched a video last week and some russian political experts called marge mAga monster green a BEAST! 😭 russia loves the donald and the blonde mAga monster. Makes sense in the big picture. But that picture is much too large for any of the idiots on this forum...... might be a couple that can see it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 Putin loves Trump so much he doesn’t want him to he President. He wants Biden to be. So you are either intentionally lying are too stupid to follow along. In fact, Putin’s endorsement for Biden to be President was one of the earliest endorsements for President Biden got for this election 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 8 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Putin loves Trump so much he doesn’t want him to he President. He wants Biden to be. So you are either intentionally lying are too stupid to follow along. In fact, Putin’s endorsement for Biden to be President was one of the earliest endorsements for President Biden got for this election FF is a total moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 36 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Maybe it has something to do with the fact we have given Ukraine every penny that was supposed to go for American roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, poverty, and hunger. Even the initial assault, before heavy US aid, failed. And while Republicans were diddling their fingers and not passing the aid bill, Ukraine still held out. But let's not lie and claim that (1) military aid money would otherwise be going to internal projects and (2) that you would be in favor of spending increases for said domestic projects. This is why people just instinctively understand that you're liars and frauds: you always pretend to be in favor of spending money on something if it can be used to oppose spending money elsewhere. Then when that minor battle has been fought you return to your previous objection to money being spent on roads, schools, poverty, etc. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 24 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Putin loves Trump so much he doesn’t want him to he President. He does. You're a simp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 2 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: He does. You're a simp. So is it one of those situations where you got a good friend but you wouldn’t trust him with business decisions? He likes Trump as a person but doesn’t want him to be President? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 6 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Even the initial assault, before heavy US aid, failed. And while Republicans were diddling their fingers and not passing the aid bill, Ukraine still held out. But let's not lie and claim that (1) military aid money would otherwise be going to internal projects and (2) that you would be in favor of spending increases for said domestic projects. This is why people just instinctively understand that you're liars and frauds: you always pretend to be in favor of spending money on something if it can be used to oppose spending money elsewhere. Then when that minor battle has been fought you return to your previous objection to money being spent on roads, schools, poverty, etc. You are mistaken republicans not wanting things fixed just because they don’t want the money used for bad. Meaning public schools need more money for funding. They are failing the kids. BUT, the money is not being used for good. It’s being used to hire radicals trying to indoctrinate kids. It’s being used for programs useless to make a functioning adult. So when republicans say no we aren’t funding this non sense, democrats cry that republicans want public schools to fail. It’s gaslighting and intentional deception 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 10 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: So is it one of those situations where you got a good friend but you wouldn’t trust him with business decisions? He likes Trump as a person but doesn’t want him to be President? No, he definitely, indisputably wants Trump to be President. We have loads of data/evidence showing how he actively tried to help him in 2016. The greatest threat to NATO is Trump being President and that's Putin's #1 issue. This isn't even controversial. Only morons like you who partake in wishful thinking claim otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 4 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: No, he definitely, indisputably wants Trump to be President. We have loads of data/evidence showing how he actively tried to help him in 2016. The greatest threat to NATO is Trump being President and that's Putin's #1 issue. This isn't even controversial. Only morons like you who partake in wishful thinking claim otherwise. So you think Putin intentionally lied since he is viewed as evil, that whatever he says is the opposite of the truth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 10 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: You are mistaken republicans not wanting things fixed just because they don’t want the money used for bad. No, I'm not. I actually read stuff. The vote on the 2021 Infrastructure Bill: Republican, no (200) Republican, yes (13) It's funny that you are such a dedicated toady yet you don't seem to ever know what your positions are supposed to be, or what your party actually is for. Republicans oppose practically every infrastructure bill that ever comes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 3 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: So you think Putin intentionally lied since he is viewed as evil, that whatever he says is the opposite of the truth? He intentionally lied because he knows that an endorsement from a Russian dictator is poison. And there are still dumbasses like you who are invested in selling his lies. Useful idiots, basically. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 19 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Meaning public schools need more money for funding. They are failing the kids. Republicans are also opposed to spending more money on public schools. I tried to find a more recent example but here's polling data from 2015. How far apart are Democrats and Republicans on school reform? Nearly three-fourths of Democrats favor more spending on public schools, and 54 percent of Republicans oppose it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 It's still kinda crazy how Nolebull813 doesn't understand the Republican positions on any issues. He's just for stuff that he's thinks is 'good' and against stuff that he thinks is 'bad' which just vacillates based on who's in office and what issue he's trying to demagogue in the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted April 25 Author Report Share Posted April 25 57 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Even the initial assault, before heavy US aid, failed. . Yeah, it failed badly. Too many russian strategic blunders. Anyways, on paper if russia really wanted the Ukraine they should have been able to bully the Ukraine in about 6-12 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 7 minutes ago, RedZone said: Yeah, it failed badly. Too many russian strategic blunders. What's more is that many right-wing shills like David Sacks and others were downright gleeful in the beginning because they thought Russia would win easily. When they didn't, they became very sullen. The amount of closet Russian supporters in the right-wing ecosystem is remarkably high. And not so closet really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 52 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: No, I'm not. I actually read stuff. The vote on the 2021 Infrastructure Bill: Republican, no (200) Republican, yes (13) It's funny that you are such a dedicated toady yet you don't seem to ever know what your positions are supposed to be, or what your party actually is for. Republicans oppose practically every infrastructure bill that ever comes up. Republicans don’t want to fund failed Democrat projects. So when schools are failing kids in the dem led cities, republicans don’t want to keep throwing money at the same problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 28 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: What's more is that many right-wing shills like David Sacks and others were downright gleeful in the beginning because they thought Russia would win easily. When they didn't, they became very sullen. The amount of closet Russian supporters in the right-wing ecosystem is remarkably high. And not so closet really. And to think none of this would be happening if Biden went on TV and said under no circumstance, Ukraine will EVER be in NATO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 So here you are telling me that Ukraine is getting money that should be going to schools (a lie): 3 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: Maybe it has something to do with the fact we have given Ukraine every penny that was supposed to go for American roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, poverty, and hunger. And here you are saying that, indeed, schools need more funding: 3 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: You are mistaken republicans not wanting things fixed just because they don’t want the money used for bad. Meaning public schools need more money for funding. They are failing the kids. But here you are claiming that, no, Republicans don't want to throw more money at the problem (schools): 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: Republicans don’t want to fund failed Democrat projects. So when schools are failing kids in the dem led cities, republicans don’t want to keep throwing money at the same problem. Perfectly incoherent and non-sensical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, Nolebull813 said: And to think none of this would be happening if Biden went on TV and said under no circumstance, Ukraine will EVER be in NATO. And to think, you claim not to be a Russian/Putin toady. First, Russia claimed for weeks that they were *not* going to invade Ukraine. Lied about it until the second their boots crossed the border. So they lie frequently. Second, Ukraine had wanted to join NATO for a long time but had never been offered. So it's a pretext that had never been demonstrated. Third, where's the line when we shouldn't, you know, just do whatever a dictator tells us to do? Is it before or after he invades the next sovereign country? Is it before or after you get on both knees and suck his dick? Basically, you have no clue what you're talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 3 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: No, he definitely, indisputably wants Trump to be President. We have loads of data/evidence showing how he actively tried to help him in 2016. The greatest threat to NATO is Trump being President and that's Putin's #1 issue. This isn't even controversial. Only morons like you who partake in wishful thinking claim otherwise. 🤡 Andy is on the side of mutual defense pact leaches. No doubt because Orange Man Bad. So it's not our "allies" underspending on defense and relying on American treasure and blood to cover up for their grifting should they ever be attacked? https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/the-bad-news-bundeswehr-an-examination-of-the-truly-dire-state-of-germany-s-military-a-df92eaaf-e3f9-464d-99a3-ef0c27dcc797 An Examination of the Truly Dire State of Germany's Military https://www.trtworld.com/opinion/germanys-military-crisis-deutschland-unprepared-for-war-12796649 Germany's military crisis: Deutschland unprepared for war Germany's failing military infrastructure bears a stark warning for Chancellor Scholz, namely that in case of war, the country won't be able to defend itself. It's not our "allies" being dependent on Russian oil & gas and thus funding the Russian war machine, something that has only changed SINCE the invasion of Ukraine? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 3 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: It's still kinda crazy how Nolebull813 doesn't understand the Republican positions on any issues. He's just for stuff that he's thinks is 'good' and against stuff that he thinks is 'bad' which just vacillates based on who's in office and what issue he's trying to demagogue in the moment. Nole is the football side. Bull (shit) is this side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 25 Report Share Posted April 25 1 hour ago, golfaddict1 said: Nole is the football side. Bull (shit) is this side. I can have a beer and watch a game with you one minute, and accuse you of treason the next. 😝 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted April 25 Author Report Share Posted April 25 Russa's meat grinder soldiers - 50,000 confirmed dead RedZone> the BBC reports that over 50,000 russian soldiers have died in the Ukraine war so far. If someone had told putin at the beginning of the russian invasion that he could possibly lose 50,000 plus soldiers he would have laughed in their face...... because that's what putin does. The "meat grinder" is supposed to be some type of new russian Frontline strategy. It hasn't really worked unless counting russian bodies is a good thing. And truly that's really not such a bad thing for me. Meat Grind away! 🤔😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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