BigDrop Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Another thread inspired this so I want to throw some names out for discussion: Coach Lad De La Salle CA Gerry Faust Moeller OH Tommy Knotts Dutch Fork S.C./Independence NC Bill Castle Lakeland, FL Nick Hyder Valdosta, GA John McKissick Somerville SC Mike Pettine, Central Bucks West PA George Curry Berwick PA J T Curtis JT Curtis LA Gary Joseph Katy TX Mike Smith Hampton VA George Smith STA FL Frank Lenti Mt Carmel IL Bruce Rollinson Mater Dei CA Bill McGregor DeMatha MD Wright Bazemore Valdosta ( yes, two from the same school) This is a start. I would vote Coach Lad 1, Gerry Faust 2, JT Curtis 3, Tom Knotts 4, Mike Pettine 5, Nick Hyder 5 Intetested in others’ opinions. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big hairy bald Jones Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 I made a thread on this....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDrop Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 24 minutes ago, Big hairy bald Jones said: I made a thread on this....... I thought your thread was about current coaches. (I must apologize because I’ve only read about half of the posts, assuming the coaches were current.) More than half of the ones I noted are retired, many starting their careers more than fifty years ago. Perhaps this thread is inappropriate but I thought it would be interesting to discuss Faust, Pettine, Hyder, etc in the same thread with currrnt coaches. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big hairy bald Jones Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 minute ago, BigDrop said: I thought your thread was about current coaches. (I must apologize because I’ve only read about half of the posts, assuming the coaches were current.) More than half of the ones I noted are retired, many starting their careers more than fifty years ago. Perhaps this thread is inappropriate but I thought it would be interesting to discuss Faust, Pettine, Hyder, etc in the same thread with currrnt coaches. It's all good. Good thread 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDrop Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 8 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: http://www.maxpreps.com/news/NtFOxV1fE06qSvSXeY8mHw/top-25-winningest-high-school-football-coaches-of-all-time.htm I saw it but it excludes Faust (arguably Ohio’s best ever which led to Notre Dame), Pettine who Curry would not/did not play, McGregor .880 lifetime percentage and a local institution for 30 years. Knotts and Lenti are both on there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Why is Thomas Propst not listed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btango Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Knotts won a state title at three schools (West Charlotte-1, Indy-6 of their 7, and Dutch Fork 3 with the 2017). Indy and DF were not very good when he took over but won state titles quickly (year one at Indy with only one starter not at the school the previous year when they went 5-5). At Harding, his first coaching job, he led the smallest large classification school in the state to the state title (when there were only four) against the second largest school in NC. Another big turnaround job there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDrop Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 109 game or so winning steak along the way, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Male Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 2 hours ago, BigDrop said: I saw it but it excludes Faust (arguably Ohio’s best ever which led to Notre Dame), Pettine who Curry would not/did not play, McGregor .880 lifetime percentage and a local institution for 30 years. Knotts and Lenti are both on there. I'd give the Best HS Coach EVER in Ohio to Paul Brown...You've got to go back a ways, but he IS the STANDARD for HS Coaches in Ohio ...And the US...That's MHO!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDrop Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 1 hour ago, American Male said: I'd give the Best HS Coach EVER in Ohio to Paul Brown...You've got to go back a ways, but he IS the STANDARD for HS Coaches in Ohio ...And the US...That's MHO!!! Paul Brown was 80-8-2 with six state championships and four national titles in 9 years in the ‘30’s. His impact on Ohio football in those nine years and the ones that followed is legendary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDrop Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Faust was 178-23-2 in 19 years at Moeller with four national championships in five years with a fifth coming the year he left for Notre Dame. He also won, I believe, 86 out of 88 games with a half dozen state titles. He also played national games at least once a year. I saw Faust’s ‘80 Moeller team in person at the university of Cincinnati where they often filled the 25,000 plus seat stadium. Chuck Kyle must also be mentioned at St, Ignatius especially in the ‘90’s. I saw Iggy crush Berwick in Berwick in ‘96 or ‘97. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Tom knotts should top the list IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 I bet West Monroe wishes they had Don Shows.....RIP He built that team and town. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Gus Malzahn was the best high school football coach ever. And most people think.....he's STILL the best high school football coach !!!!!! (not the people in Moultrie) Rufus>> 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 Dave Logan has won state championships at 4 different 5A schools in Colorado (3 public schools and 1 private). Best ever? I doubt it. Andy Lowry at Columbine high school has won 5 state championships, starting with his first one the year after the horrific school shooting. He lost in triple OT in this years' semifinals. Best ever? Doubt it too. But the way these two run their programs, I'm sure they'd be successful anywhere in the country. “The number one goal is the impact you make in young people’s lives,” Lowry said. “When you take care of the kids and you try to build young people, the winning takes care of itself. Winning is never the ultimate goal by any means. It’s a product of doing things right with the kids. If you win, and you’re not developing quality young people, then winning is worthless.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 The new guy at DLS will probably win 400 games or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1DayPGA Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 The best hs football coach ever is Molly McGrath. No Question about it. Wait, my bad. I thought it was best looking hs football coach ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
American Male Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 10 hours ago, BigDrop said: Faust was 178-23-2 in 19 years at Moeller with four national championships in five years with a fifth coming the year he left for Notre Dame. He also won, I believe, 86 out of 88 games with a half dozen state titles. He also played national games at least once a year. I saw Faust’s ‘80 Moeller team in person at the university of Cincinnati where they often filled the 25,000 plus seat stadium. Chuck Kyle must also be mentioned at St, Ignatius especially in the ‘90’s. I saw Iggy crush Berwick in Berwick in ‘96 or ‘97. While Gerry Faust was a great HS Coach, he never accomplished what Paul Brown did at the next two levels...Before there were Woody and Urban...There was Paul Brown!!! After the Rams left for Los Angeles, Paul Brown created The Cleveland Browns and proceeded to win all four titles in the newly formed AAFC before it and the NFL merged!!! In his first year in the NFL, he won the title...And they played in six straight NFL Title Games...The Browns QB (Otto Graham), played in 10 straight Pro Football Title Games...Paul Brown created the passing game we have today in the NFL...Without his innovations, Pro Football is College Football 3 yards and a cloud of dust on steroids!!! Paul Brown won State and National Titles in HS, National Titles in College, and World Titles in Two Pro Football Leagues!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Las Vegas_JC Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 14 minutes ago, American Male said: While Gerry Faust was a great HS Coach, he never accomplished what Paul Brown did at the next two levels...Before there were Woody and Urban...There was Paul Brown!!! After the Rams left for Los Angeles, Paul Brown created The Cleveland Browns and proceeded to win all four titles in the newly formed AAFC before it and the NFL merged!!! In his first year in the NFL, he won the title...And they played in six straight NFL Title Games...The Browns QB (Otto Graham), played in 10 straight Pro Football Title Games...Paul Brown created the passing game we have today in the NFL...Without his innovations, Pro Football is College Football 3 yards and a cloud of dust on steroids!!! Paul Brown won State and National Titles in HS, National Titles in College, and World Titles in Two Pro Football Leagues!!! The best coach of all time is without a doubt Paul Brown. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Brown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 58 minutes ago, 1DayPGA said: The best hs football coach ever is Molly McGrath. No Question about it. Wait, my bad. I thought it was best looking hs football coach ever. wrong...Jesus when he coached for DSL... already made that joke but feel like this whole thread is a rerun... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDrop Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 3 hours ago, American Male said: While Gerry Faust was a great HS Coach, he never accomplished what Paul Brown did at the next two levels...Before there were Woody and Urban...There was Paul Brown!!! After the Rams left for Los Angeles, Paul Brown created The Cleveland Browns and proceeded to win all four titles in the newly formed AAFC before it and the NFL merged!!! In his first year in the NFL, he won the title...And they played in six straight NFL Title Games...The Browns QB (Otto Graham), played in 10 straight Pro Football Title Games...Paul Brown created the passing game we have today in the NFL...Without his innovations, Pro Football is College Football 3 yards and a cloud of dust on steroids!!! Paul Brown won State and National Titles in HS, National Titles in College, and World Titles in Two Pro Football Leagues!!! Paul Brown is the greatest coach of all in Ohio football. Period. Gerry Faust was similarly successful in his years at Moeller. So successful that Notre Dame hired him straight out of high school. But he didn’t have an ounce of the success at Notre Dame or Akron that Paul Brown did after Massillon. I’m old...but not old enough to remember Paul Brown’s Massillon years. (Yes, I saw Iggy play Massillon in a full stadium in the late ‘90’s. Incredible atmosphere. But not the ‘30’s😀). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDrop Posted December 5, 2017 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 17 hours ago, btango said: Knotts won a state title at three schools (West Charlotte-1, Indy-6 of their 7, and Dutch Fork 3 with the 2017). Indy and DF were not very good when he took over but won state titles quickly (year one at Indy with only one starter not at the school the previous year when they went 5-5). At Harding, his first coaching job, he led the smallest large classification school in the state to the state title (when there were only four) against the second largest school in NC. Another big turnaround job there. I sat on Indy’s side at the Herbstreit at UC when their 109 game winning streak ended in a loss to Elder. The people around me-who had travelled to Cincinnati from Charlotte and several of whom had sons playing for Indy-loved Tom Knotts. Incredible what he accomplished. And, Dutch Fork came VERY close to winning on the road at Allen. Deep respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Not sure who is the best coach ever but can tell you who is the coach of the best team ever... #trollinggaandtx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 Rush Propst Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guccifer Posted December 8, 2017 Report Share Posted December 8, 2017 What I'm interested in is the battle between BigDrop and American Male to see who can prove that they're the older, crustier high school football fan. Unless the coach is 90+ years old or already dead, they don't belong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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