sausmann9 Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 how do they play them??? both in same time all game, series or two a piece, etc... neither seem to be anything but excellent running backs so I don't see either at slot, wing, or quarterback in wildcat too much at all. I didn't see any questions to the coach on how he might handle such a situation w/ two top ranked players at one position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 Nice problem to have. Names ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB4 Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: Nice problem to have. Names ? Trey Sanders and Noah Cain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted April 19, 2018 Report Share Posted April 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, DB4 said: Trey Sanders and Noah Cain Wasn't Trey Sanders the one from Port St Joe or am i thinking of someone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty4024 Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 6 hours ago, sausmann9 said: how do they play them??? both in same time all game, series or two a piece, etc... neither seem to be anything but excellent running backs so I don't see either at slot, wing, or quarterback in wildcat too much at all. I didn't see any questions to the coach on how he might handle such a situation w/ two top ranked players at one position. Simple...play the one that gets hot (Georgia does...why can't they?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, Frosty4024 said: Simple...play the one that gets hot (Georgia does...why can't they?) Or just rotate when one gets tired 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Or just rotate when one gets tired That's what i would do as a coach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 57 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: That's what i would do as a coach I say run some misdirection with them, but I don't think that's IMG's style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, 954gator said: I say run some misdirection with them, but I don't think that's IMG's style. Oh yeah I meant if i only had one on the field at a time If i had 2 backs like that i would consider wing T or Maybe triple option offense if i have a smart qb who can move and keep defense honest with potential for option pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Columbiafan said: Oh yeah I meant if i only had one on the field at a time If i had 2 backs like that i would consider wing T or Maybe triple option offense if i have a smart qb who can move and keep defense honest with potential for option pass STA had a ton of sets with White and Bernard. Fake dive toss left , dive with a fake toss outside etc, fake handoff right option left etc etc. Make the D account for both studs! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 Central was killing it last year with multiple backs. When they had Yearby and Cook it was nasty. You don't need to run a full on option offense like the Veer or wingT to utilize a couple backs. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Columbiafan said: Oh yeah I meant if i only had one on the field at a time If i had 2 backs like that i would consider wing T or Maybe triple option offense if i have a smart qb who can move and keep defense honest with potential for option pass You don't just install the wing t or triple option in one off-season, at least not successfully. Both take a lot of practice and timing to create the deception that make those offenses effective. That's not a smart idea for IMG considering the limited amount of time their players are on the team. To me, a pro style offense is best suited for IMG. They have enough talent to overwhelm opponents without being too creative. It simplifies the playbook making it easier for players to learn with the constant turnover on the roster. Having so many playmakers at once seems to have hurt IMG on some occasions. You could tell they were trying to force things in order to spread the ball around. The second game against Cen10 was a prime example. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 27 minutes ago, CCBlackhatter said: You don't just install the wing t or triple option in one off-season, at least not successfully. Both take a lot of practice and timing to create the deception that make those offenses effective. That's not a smart idea for IMG considering the limited amount of time their players are on the team. To me, a pro style offense is best suited for IMG. They have enough talent to overwhelm opponents without being too creative. It simplifies the playbook making it easier for players to learn with the constant turnover on the roster. Having so many playmakers at once seems to have hurt IMG on some occasions. You could tell they were trying to force things in order to spread the ball around. The second game against Cen10 was a prime example. That is a very good point you bring up there and truthfully that and the overall cockiness of IMG are their biggest flaws It will be what eventually ends their winning streak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 21 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: That is a very good point you bring up there and truthfully that and the overall cockiness of IMG are their biggest flaws It will be what eventually ends their winning streak It's the very reason why they appear to be so vanilla on offense annually. They don't have to dig deep in the playbook to put up enough points for their defense. This MD team will be their toughest challenge to date because they will be able to match them in talent with the starting 22. If the Monarchs can stay healthy they will have a great shot, if not, IMG's depth will take over. As loaded as Grayson was in 2016, they were still outmanned in terms of star talent, and having a new coach as well was too much to overcome so early in the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 1 hour ago, CCBlackhatter said: It's the very reason why they appear to be so vanilla on offense annually. They don't have to dig deep in the playbook to put up enough points for their defense. This MD team will be their toughest challenge to date because they will be able to match them in talent with the starting 22. If the Monarchs can stay healthy they will have a great shot, if not, IMG's depth will take over. As loaded as Grayson was in 2016, they were still outmanned in terms of star talent, and having a new coach as well was too much to overcome so early in the season. It's best to catch img early when they have little to no team chemistry What will help mater Dei is they should be gelled by time they play img and while img will as well they will be able to match img in talent which will be a unusual situation for img who despite playing elite teams have rarley lined up against a team who can match them talent wise But i feel mater Dei has a coaching edge in this game which should be deciding factor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 If Mater Dei takes IMG decisively. The conversation is going to be easy from my POV as to why. We aspire to be Mater Dei East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB4 Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 16 hours ago, Columbiafan said: Wasn't Trey Sanders the one from Port St Joe or am i thinking of someone else Yep, that's him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted April 20, 2018 Report Share Posted April 20, 2018 On 4/19/2018 at 1:27 PM, sausmann9 said: how do they play them??? both in same time all game, series or two a piece, etc... neither seem to be anything but excellent running backs so I don't see either at slot, wing, or quarterback in wildcat too much at all. I didn't see any questions to the coach on how he might handle such a situation w/ two top ranked players at one position. Last year they had 2 D1 QB’s. A preferred walk on for Minnesota finished the season as the starter over a Rutgers commit. Compared to this? No issue whatsoever imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Noah Cain is from Denton Guyer TX - was in Austin TX this weekend at the UT spring game. He had great coaching at Guyer. One example of this is his strength coach at Guyer is now on staff at the university of Oklahoma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/20/2018 at 12:08 AM, Columbiafan said: It's best to catch img early when they have little to no team chemistry What will help mater Dei is they should be gelled by time they play img and while img will as well they will be able to match img in talent which will be a unusual situation for img who despite playing elite teams have rarley lined up against a team who can match them talent wise But i feel mater Dei has a coaching edge in this game which should be deciding factor Dude - IMG has more top end talent than MD. If IMG comes to play they will win this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texasball Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/20/2018 at 12:08 AM, Columbiafan said: It's best to catch img early when they have little to no team chemistry What will help mater Dei is they should be gelled by time they play img and while img will as well they will be able to match img in talent which will be a unusual situation for img who despite playing elite teams have rarley lined up against a team who can match them talent wise But i feel mater Dei has a coaching edge in this game which should be deciding factor MD doesn’t have any better talent this year than few team IMG played last year. I hope IMG stomps mud hole in MD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausmann9 Posted April 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 On 4/19/2018 at 10:52 PM, 954gator said: Central was killing it last year with multiple backs. When they had Yearby and Cook it was nasty. You don't need to run a full on option offense like the Veer or wingT to utilize a couple backs. regarding both STA and MC that you mentioned; did either (or both) teams have that many 4 and 5 star receivers as well??? I honestly don't/can't remember what other studs they had but In MC's case, having two awesome running backs was great b/c they didn't have to spread the ball around to the receivers if i remember correctly. If IMG doesn't pass, is it possible they lose out on receivers in the future that think IMG is only going to run the ball??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 45 minutes ago, sausmann9 said: regarding both STA and MC that you mentioned; did either (or both) teams have that many 4 and 5 star receivers as well??? I honestly don't/can't remember what other studs they had but In MC's case, having two awesome running backs was great b/c they didn't have to spread the ball around to the receivers if i remember correctly. If IMG doesn't pass, is it possible they lose out on receivers in the future that think IMG is only going to run the ball??? Sta had studs at WR and TE that year as well. 4star WR Dwayne Difton, 4 star WR Duron Carter, NFL WR Philip Dorsett, and NFL TE Gabe Holmes. Difton seemed like the best senior WR to me at the time, but no idea what happened to him. Carter had a stint in the NFL but had a lot of off the field issues. Dorsett and Holmes I think are still playing in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Pretty sure MC had a couple studs at WR as well, but they definitely were a much better passing team with Cato a couple years earlier. I know Da'Vante Phillips was there with Cook and Yearby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Texasball said: Noah Cain is from Denton Guyer TX - was in Austin TX this weekend at the UT spring game. He had great coaching at Guyer. One example of this is his strength coach at Guyer is now on staff at the university of Oklahoma Denton boy indeed, I be darned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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