westbankeagle Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, concha said: Name their notable weaknesses. Because basically any professional analyst out there I've listened to or read calls them the most balanced team in the country. The computer analysis like ESPN Power Index and the likes of Sagarin agree. . I've lived long enough to see "best teams" and "balanced programs" get exposed. Hell, we were told by the experts just a couple weeks ago that this Wisconsin defense was an all-time great defense. Until you line up and play someone, you're only as good as speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted October 27, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, concha said: At this time last year there was one team that was considered elite. Alabama. They had every #1 vote in the AP. How'd that work out? There were 3 undefeated Power 5 teams. This year there are 6. One of the three undefeateds last year at this time was ND. They came within a score of losing to: Michigan, Vandy and Pitt and USC. they beat Ball State by 8. LSU was ranked #4 at this time last year at 7-1. They got blanked by Bama, took 7 OTs to lose to TAMU, and beat Arkansas by a whopping 7. Shall go on? Pretty sure clemson was considered an elite team last year. They had 4 DL going to the NFL. Had a heisman trophy candidate qb etc. Baylor is undefeated but not certainly not an elite team. Having a great year but nobody cares about them. Alabama clemson ohio state LSU those are the 4 teams to watch. Clemson already had a close call with UNC and has been dropping in the polls. Lsu didnt exactly look great today. National championship yes is shaping up to be Alabama ohio state. Which is fine bring it on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbankeagle Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Columbiafan said: I'm more impressed with teams that have a good offense and a good defense than a team who has a great offense and a subpar defense LSU will not make the playoffs unless they improve on defense, Auburn lacked the offensive firepower to truly expose LSU defensive issues, on the other hand even without Tua, bama is loaded with skill players That will be the true test for whether or not LSU is playoff material Sub par? It's not NC level but damn man, sub par? I'm starting to think you don't actually know football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, westbankeagle said: Sub par? It's not NC level but damn man, sub par? I'm starting to think you don't actually know football. I've seen much better LSU defenses in past years than this one Not to mention giving up 38 to bottom feeder vandy This LSU defense is not good and if Mac Jones can somehow not go deer in headlights then I see bama scoring at will next Saturday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: It's more that I disagree with the whole their the only team that has what they have Which team has performed offensively and defensively at the same level? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 20 minutes ago, westbankeagle said: I've lived long enough to see "best teams" and "balanced programs" get exposed. Hell, we were told by the experts just a couple weeks ago that this Wisconsin defense was an all-time great defense. Until you line up and play someone, you're only as good as speculation. Well, we know that tOSU has crushed two Top 20 teams by a combined 80-7. We know that they have been beating the Vegas lines every week. Crushing them, in fact. Ohio State finished last season ranked #5. By any meaningful metric they are better than last year, especially on defense. Can you name a single respected coach or analyst who doesn't think this Ohio State team isn't a) really, really good and, b) probably the most balanced team right now? Anyone "could" get exposed. What we know is that at this point their closest margin of victory is 24 points and they have the biggest average margin of victory in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbankeagle Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 minute ago, concha said: Well, we know that tOSU has crushed two Top 20 teams by a combined 80-7. We know that they have been beating the Vegas lines every week. Crushing them, in fact. Ohio State finished last season ranked #5. By any meaningful metric they are better than last year, especially on defense. Can you name a single respected coach or analyst who doesn't think this Ohio State team isn't a) really, reaaly good and, b) probably the most balanced team right now? Anyone "could" get exposed. What we know is that at this point their closest margin of victory is 24 points and they have the biggest average margin of victory in the country. But you didn't say anything to contradict my point. Every year teams are "balanced" etc., have awesome margins of victory, everything, but none of that matters unless you beat one of the real top teams. Wisconsin and Cincy aren't in the same stratosphere as the real top teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, westbankeagle said: But you didn't say anything to contradict my point. Every year teams are "balanced" etc., have awesome margins of victory, everything, but none of that matters unless you beat one of the real top teams. Wisconsin and Cincy aren't in the same stratosphere as the real top teams. Who are the real top teams so far this year? LSU maybe? Bama has beaten nobody. Clemson ditto and has come close to losing... So who do you have to beat given that crushing - not just beating - every opponent and having wins over two top 25 teams by a combined 80-7 appears to mean nothing? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westbankeagle Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, concha said: Who are the real top teams so far this year? LSU maybe? Bama has beaten nobody. Clemson ditto and has come close to losing... So who do you have to beat given that crushing - not just beating - every opponent and having wins over two top 25 teams by a combined 80-7 appears to mean nothing? . You have to beat a top 3-4 team. Heck, sometimes even those teams aren't on the same level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, westbankeagle said: You have to beat a top 3-4 team. Heck, sometimes even those teams aren't on the same level. They just crushed a recent #6 team, so not far off. And of the top 3-4 teams, nobody has a win over another. It sounds like based on your logic we won't know until the CFP playoffs. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bamarod Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 8 hours ago, HSFBfan said: Yes I believe both games in TTown Bama is at Auburn this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 5 hours ago, concha said: They just crushed a recent #6 team, so not far off. And of the top 3-4 teams, nobody has a win over another. It sounds like based on your logic we won't know until the CFP playoffs. . We'll have to wait till LSU-Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankyjames Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 GA might be the 5th best team in the SEC. So sad lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 LSU will play Alabama twice this year.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 Its pretty clear Ohio St. & Clemson have the cleanest paths to the playoffs. Penn St. could provide some resistance for OSU but I doubt it. Alabama with Tua is the best team this season. Seems like this year, the teams at the top are better than normal. Clemson, OSU, & LSU are rolling. I hope my Dawgs can clinch the East beating Florida next Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 NO ONE really gives a hoot about MOV at this point in the season.......just win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 32 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Its pretty clear Ohio St. & Clemson have the cleanest paths to the playoffs. Penn St. could provide some resistance for OSU but I doubt it. Alabama with Tua is the best team this season. Seems like this year, the teams at the top are better than normal. Clemson, OSU, & LSU are rolling. I hope my Dawgs can clinch the East beating Florida next Saturday. No they’re not. This is typical homer speak. Not 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 35 minutes ago, Horsefly said: No they’re not. This is typical homer speak. Not Best team in country up for debate Bama definitely best in SEC though and on 11/9 they gonna prove it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Best team in country up for debate Bama definitely best in SEC though and on 11/9 they gonna prove it I can agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 What about the Baylor Bear? https://fbschedules.com/baylor-football-schedule/ Couple decent Big 12 wins incuding smashing K-State who just smashed Sooner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 @HSFBfan the final was 23-20 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 26 minutes ago, RedZone said: What about the Baylor Bear? https://fbschedules.com/baylor-football-schedule/ Couple decent Big 12 wins incuding smashing K-State who just smashed Sooner. 7 point win = smashed 🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 Bama could truly be the SEC's best. Hard to know. Their schedule so far this season has been pathetic. Sagarin has them with the #61 schedule so far. Their opponents are a combined 25-39. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLien12x Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 Alabama defense: Allowing 308 yards per game 15.3 ppg (10th in the nation) ——————————— Auburn’s Steel Curtain: Allowing 343 yards per game 17.9 ppg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted October 27, 2019 Report Share Posted October 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, ATLien12x said: Alabama defense: Allowing 308 yards per game 15.3 ppg (10th in the nation) ——————————— Auburn’s Steel Curtain: Allowing 343 yards per game 17.9 ppg Not sure what this is supposed to be telling us given that Alabama has played a pathetic schedule and Auburn easily one of the toughest in the country so far (#2 per Sagarin). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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