Troll Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, The Guru said: Again, for the retards in the forum. is paid through Medicare. A 20% bump was added due to the CARES Act. ..... a 20% bump was passed through the CARES Act. So half all 100% true. <<<FIFY And that half true is being generous since the vast majority of the "extra" money is not related to the coronavirus. You should take your half-truth and be happy. It could easily be mostly false. Sorry but no matter how you try to deflect.... They get paid....and according to YOU...they get paid 20% MORE... so that's 100% true... ....according to YOU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Troll said: Sorry but no matter how you try to deflect.... Yeah, I tried to deflect by being 100% accurate and transparent in my post. Good one. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, Troll said: They get paid....and according to YOU...they get paid 20% MORE... so that's 100% true... They get up to 200% more for respiratory illnesses that require a ventilator. So if we had an outbreak of respiratory illness, and it wasn't called COVID-19, then they would receive an increase of roughly 10x more. You are insinuating that there is an incentive to fake COVID-19 deaths in order to receive more money. If that was the case then why haven't hospitals been doing this since the inception of Medicare, since they receive 3x more for respiratory illnesses? It's a stupid conspiracy theory perpetuated by stupid people. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 Just now, The Guru said: Yeah, I tried to deflect by being 100% accurate and transparent in my post. Good one. Yeah, You tried to deflect by pointing to a 'fact checker fail', that tries to say because 1 MSM article tries to exaggerate an amount that the concept of 'getting paid' is "SOMEHOW" not 100% true.... Well it's 100% true... They get paid... AND APPARENTLY, They get paid 'at least' 20% more....by your 'transparent' postings 🤣 yes GOOD ONE... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Guru said: They get up to 200% more for respiratory illnesses that require a ventilator. So if we had an outbreak of respiratory illness, and it wasn't called COVID-19, then they would receive an increase of roughly 10x more. You are insinuating that there is an incentive to fake COVID-19 deaths in order to receive more money. If that was the case then why haven't hospitals been doing this since the inception of Medicare, since they receive 3x more for respiratory illnesses? It's a stupid conspiracy theory perpetuated by stupid people. #1 you are in the 'conspiracy only' thread... #2 There IS an incentive to, according to you, "fake COVID-19 deaths in order to receive more money". Saying the "incentive" is more or less than some other "incentive" (which was not even being claimed) is quite IRRELEVANT. I guess when you can't face the facts, your only resort is making shiat up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 2 hours ago, The Guru said: Again, for the retards in the forum. 1 BUFORDGAWOLVES reacted to this BTW BGW: You been riding and loving Guru for a while now.....how does his implementation of 'retard' taste? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Troll said: #1 you are in the 'conspiracy only' thread... You've spread your dumb conspiracy theories to other threads so I can certainly expose the stupidity of said theories in the actual conspiracy thread. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Troll said: #2 There IS an incentive to, according to you, "fake COVID-19 deaths in order to receive more money". Saying the "incentive" is more or less than some other"incentive" (which was not even being claimed) is quite IRRELEVANT. It's not irrelevant. It's exculpatory. 20% = incentive to lie! 200% = crickets 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 21 minutes ago, The Guru said: It's not irrelevant. It's exculpatory. 20% = incentive to lie! 200% = crickets What crickets? Just keep repeating that to yourself.... 22 minutes ago, The Guru said: 20% = incentive to lie! repeat... ponder... repeat... Ponder.... ....hang in there....with a name like guru, your bound to figure it out at some point 👍 28 minutes ago, The Guru said: so I can certainly expose the stupidity of ..... BTW: STILL waiting for you to show me how they are not getting paid for it....🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Troll said: 1 BUFORDGAWOLVES reacted to this BTW BGW: You been riding and loving Guru for a while now.....how does retard taste? You and Ironman thumbing down for debate, it's bullshit and passive aggressive. bgw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 Just supporting a dude that's battling... I don't agree with everything Guru posts. It's about the right things. bgw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 Just now, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: You and Ironman thumbing down for debate, it's bullshit and passive aggressive. bgw Thought that's was it... I don't tie my horse to what Ironman says or does (probably similar to your feelings towards Guru). And for the record, yeah LOL, it might be a little 'passive aggressive' in the 'response', but by definition, that's what those 'social thumbs up' scores are specifically designed and encouraged for........no? 🤔 I noted in a 'first post' that those 'social rankings' were being 'manipulated' (perhaps you didn't connect the two) and not to be relied upon... no biggie...just thought it funny you jumping on board 😝🤣 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 7 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Just supporting a dude that's battling... I don't agree with everything Guru posts. It's about the right things. bgw haha....saw this after I responded. How about we both get back to 'normal' 😄 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 Just now, Troll said: Thought that's was it... I don't tie my horse to what Ironman says or does (probably similar to your feelings towards Guru). And for the record, yeah LOL, it might be a little 'passive aggressive' in the 'response', but by definition, that's what those 'social thumbs up' scores are specifically designed and encouraged for........no? 🤔 I noted in a 'first post' that those 'social rankings' were being 'manipulated' (perhaps you didn't connect the two) and not to be relied upon... no biggie...just thought it funny you jumping on board 😝🤣 I don't have any real feelings except you and Ironman are making a mockery of it, so there's that. The only tying in I see are the use of the "thumbs down", you're a pretty damn good debater in your own right, leave the child's play to Ironman. Sincerely bgw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, Troll said: haha....saw this after I responded. How about we both get back to 'normal' 😄 We're good, you have some interesting angles I don't consider, your writing style requires a getting used to but I appreciate your posts and humor. bgw 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippers Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 5 hours ago, Troll said: In your zeal to act the moron, you PROVE they are ACTUALLY GETTING PAID CONSIDERABLY MORE MONEY $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for these flu patients.....GOOD JOB !!! Medicare only reimburses about 20 cents on the dollar to begin with, so its not like hospitals are making money on this. We lost $14 million in March and roughly the same in April, which is about the average loss for the main hospitals up here. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, Rippers said: Medicare only reimburses about 20 cents on the dollar to begin with, so its not like hospitals are making money on this. We lost $14 million in March and roughly the same in April, which is about the average loss for the main hospitals up here. This doesn't fit the agenda. It has to be that they're falsely inflating the numbers to get paid "more" so that we can all sleep well at night after having called the media and the left liars about all of this virus stuff man. That's a conspiracy theory in and of itself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 minute ago, HawgGoneIt said: This doesn't fit the agenda. It has to be that they're falsely inflating the numbers to get paid "more" so that we can all sleep well at night after having called the media and the left liars about all of this virus stuff man. That's a conspiracy theory in and of itself. Taking a cue from QAnon, crowd sourcing and influencing the narrative. Haha. bgw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Taking a cue from QAnon, crowd sourcing and influencing the narrative. Haha. bgw On a serious note, some people just simply don't want to believe the numbers man. It's scary if you believe the numbers. In reality, the numbers could be under-inflated because apparently there has been a spike in a lot of causes of death during this pandemic. Lack of testing could be hurting the numbers in either direction really. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 Just now, HawgGoneIt said: On a serious note, some people just simply don't want to believe the numbers man. It's scary if you believe the numbers. In reality, the numbers could be under-inflated because apparently there has been a spike in a lot of causes of death during this pandemic. Lack of testing could be hurting the numbers in either direction really. Absolutely a shit ton of unknowns, variables at play that make take some time to figure out what the real damage is and at what cost. Truly a 100 year event for the books. bgw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: I don't have any real feelings except you and Ironman are making a mockery of it, so there's that. The only tying in I see are the use of the "thumbs down", you're a pretty damn good debater in your own right, leave the child's play to Ironman. Sincerely bgw It wasn't coordinated, and I haven't been doing it for long enough to make a mockery of it...LOL The point was made... just wondered what yours was 🤷♂️ is all... No need further it, as those 'ratings' can be a total farce... 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 31 minutes ago, Rippers said: Medicare only reimburses about 20 cents on the dollar to begin with, so its not like hospitals are making money on this. We lost $14 million in March and roughly the same in April, which is about the average loss for the main hospitals up here. Finally... thank you... Probably going to lose more with all the "loss of Business" and people avoiding you like the plague.... But I'm sure you are not arguing that they are "not getting paid for it" like some morons...🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rippers Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, Troll said: Probably going to lose more with all the "loss of Business" and people avoiding you like the plague.... We're planning on being $42 million under the budget by the end of the fiscal year. And while the last month has been very quiet, we are down to 22 positive patients at the moment, our lowest since the peak, the ER is starting to pick up again. We're also slowly delving back into elective surgeries as of last Monday, so we'll see what the ramp up does. But yeah, we're having tons of patients calling asking if its safe to come in because we were one of the first hospitals to deal with this. I keep telling my staff that we're probably safer here than we are outside. But I also keep saying that most of us have probably been exposed but never developed any symptoms nor were infectious (kind of like latent TB), but that is another conspiracy for a different day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 16 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Taking a cue from QAnon, crowd sourcing and influencing the narrative. Haha. bgw I don't influence anyone LOL.... And the problem with Qanon is that they are 24 hrs ahead of the news cycle.... go figure...🤷♂️ BTW: I thought those 'tips' was from those Ruskies...not Q.... 🤣 could be wrong lol. Did you check out THEIR latest conspiracy thread ?!? Deeze guys are goooood....they got links in red and pictures...😜 (Conspiracy Theory Gold) Trump Activates Doomsday Protocols While Surrounding China With Live Anti-Ship Missiles By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers A grimly foreboding new Security Council (SC) report circulating in the Kremlin today noting how close the “Coronavirus Pandemic War” is tipping towards open global conflict, reveals the reason behind President Putin stating that the action plan for economic recovery from the current crisis “must address a new reality” is due to the grave assessments being made by the Ministry of Defense (MoD) that yesterday led Russia to warn the United States of a massive nuclear response—a nuclear war warning coming at the same time the US has deployed its Doomsday communications planes into the skies over America and the US Northern Command has dispersed essential command and control teams to multiple hardened locations, including the famous Cheyenne Mountain bunker complex in Colorado—and following saw the White House abruptly declaring within the past few hours that President Donald Trump is preparing to flee to his hardened military compound at Camp David. All of which is occurring at the same time Director-General Chiu Kuo-cheng of the Taiwan National Security Bureau (NSB) is confirming the gravely ill health status of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un—that, in turn, has caused United States and Communist Chinese military forces to jockey themselves into position to preserve their respective positions and strategic interests should the Korean Peninsula explode into open warfare. A positioning that this week has seen Communist Chinese combat armed aircraft expelling from what they claim are their waters a US Navy warship—that the United States immediately countered by throwing two even more powerful US Navy warships into these contested waters—which were joined by a President Trump declaration confirming that he has a “High Degree Of Confidence” that Communist China created the coronavirus in a Wuhan laboratory—and President Trump further stating that he is now “crafting retaliatory measures” against Communist China—retaliatory measures that already include Communist Chinese waters being surrounded by US Navy attack submarines armed with ship-killer missiles—and who just days ago, were joined for the first time in this crisis by US Marine fighter aircraft flying out of their Japanese bases armed with live Harpoon anti-ship missiles. [Note: Some words and/or phrases appearing in quotes in this report are English language approximations of Russian words/phrases having no exact counterpart.] US Marine Corps Hornet fighter jets forward-deployed to Japan conduct exercise against Communist Chinese warships while carrying live AGM-84D Harpoon anti-ship missiles (above/red arrow pointing at) on 29 April 2020. According to this report, most appalling to be noticed over the past 24-hours as the United States and Communist China edge closer to open conflict in this “Coronavirus Pandemic War”, has been the leftist US mainstream propaganda media keeping hidden from the American people the truth and facts of what’s now occurring—a truth best described by top Indian military strategist Major General Shashi Asthana, who correctly calls this US-China conflict an “Undeclared World War III”—and facts which include why Russia has just threatened the United States with a massive nuclear response. If allowed to know the truth, though, this report details, the American people would become aware of the fact that their government asserts that the new low-yield nuclear weapons they’ve created “reduce the risk of nuclear war by reinforcing extended deterrence and assurance”—an assertion countered by Russian foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova, who speaking for President Putin warned the US that: “Any attack involving a US submarine-launched ballistic missile, regardless of its weapon specifications, would be perceived as a nuclear aggression”, with her adding: “Those who like to theorize about the flexibility of American nuclear potential must understand that in line with the Russian military doctrine such actions are seen as warranting retaliatory use of nuclear weapons by Russia”. Most critical for the American people to know about this threat by Russia to launch a massive nuclear retaliatory strike against the United States, this report explains, is that before any US low-yield nuclear weapon can be fired, it must first be authorized by the United States National Command Authority (NCA)—that comprises President Trump, Vice President Mike Pence, Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Deputy Defense Secretary David Norquist—as well as the US military commanding officers of what is known as the Unified Combatant Command (UCC). The most powerful of the commanding officers in the Unified Combatant Command, this report continues, is US Navy Vice Admiral Charles A. Richard, who commands the United States Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM)—which comprises the triad of all of the air, sea and land based nuclear weapons possessed in the United States nuclear arsenal—and if pre-authorized by the President, or if communication with the National Command Authority cut off, is allowed to singlehandedly make split-second war condition decisions for nuclear weapons use—as are both Russian and Chinese military commanders having the same position as Vice Admiral Richard. In having the godlike power of being able to instantly annihilate millions, if not tens-of-millions of human beings by split-second wartime decision making, this report notes, United States, Russian and Communist Chinese military commanders having such responsibility are guided by their opponents’ government authorized stated and published nuclear war doctrines—all three of which include a strict no first nuclear weapon use clause—but upon his being approved by the US Senate this past November-2019 to head the United States Strategic Command, saw Vice Admiral Richard stating that: “I could drive a truck through the holes in China’s no first use nuclear policy”—a statement when added to the assertion being made by the US government that their low-yield nuclear weapons don’t fall under their no first strike doctrine, makes it unmistakably clear what their intentions are—intentions best exampled last week the US made a test nuclear bomb run on Communist China—that prompted a warning shot being fired at President Donald Trump in a white paper titled “Once World War III Starts, There Is No Going Back”, wherein he was told “the United States needs to prepare to absorb the first blow” from Communist Chinese military forces—but which no one believes either President Trump or Vice Admiral Richard is going to allow to happen. President Donald Trump orders B-1 heavy bomber under US Air Force and Japanese Defense Forces fighter aircraft to make test nuclear attack run (above) towards Communist China on 21 April 2020. Most dangerously being kept hidden from the American people by their lying fake news mainstream propaganda media about this rapidly moving towards the nuclear abyss “Coronavirus Pandemic War”, however, this report further notes, is its being an exact mirror image to the last great global realignment of power occurring during the Great Depression-World World War II Era of last century—an historic era that saw massive and un-payable nation-state debt and global trade conflicts combining and igniting into all-out total war—the final result of which led to the Bretton Woods System and 1944 Agreement establishing a New World Order—but has now, in fact, collapsed into an old world order no longer viable because of the inherent ideological and economic conflicts existing between the United States and Communist China—and perhaps best explained today by the American banking genius William “Bill” Rhodes, who in viewing current global nation-state debt says it’s “the worst he’s ever seen”, thus causing him to grimly warn: “Here we have a planet-wide phenomenon that is going to make a number of countries have to face unsustainable debt positions”. The countries most in danger of collapsing because of their “unsustainable debt positions”, this report concludes are those aligned with the Communist Chinese massive project called the Belt and Road Initiative, all of whom today are begging China to save them—an initiative created by Communist Chinese to upend and usurp the United States in foreign trade—and is now in grave peril as the Communist Chinese watch helplessly as President Trump crushes their currency—which explains why Communist China has just announced it won’t cooperate with the World Health Organization into finding out how the coronavirus pandemic started, and why, also, they have now launched a massive global propaganda attack on President Trump over his handling of the coronavirus crisis—both ill advised moves to be sure—especially when coming against a President Trump who when asked if he’d ever use nuclear weapons ominously said: “I’m never going to rule anything out”. ---------------------------------------- 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted May 1, 2020 Report Share Posted May 1, 2020 BTW...Their Chinese propaganda is...... well.... see for yourself... 🤔 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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