Horsefly Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, thc6795 said: If you get the Wuhan will you take it of not? These folks had mild cases, I would not take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, Belly Bob said: Yes, the method is enormously important, one of the most important things there is. Sorry man once Im dead Im not going to give a fuck how I died. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, Horsefly said: These folks had mild cases, I would not take it. Dr tells you only thing left to try is chloroquin, you're not going to try it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 58 minutes ago, thc6795 said: 22k people died of the flu this yr. SO FAR Forget about politics for a minute. Since 2010, 37,250 people have died from the flu each year on average in this country. That's with no attempts at social distancing. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html With massive, unprecedented attempts at social distancing, the President is now claiming that if 100,000 to 200,000 people die due to the new coronavirus, we will have successfully managed the outbreak. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, thc6795 said: Dr tells you only thing left to try is chloroquin, you're not going to try it? if I were mild I wouldn’t want a trial drug. if I’m intubated with a 10% chance of survival I’d try the drug 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, thc6795 said: Sorry man once Im dead Im not going to give a fuck how I died. So what? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, Belly Bob said: Forget about politics for a minute. Since 2010, 37,250 people have died from the flu each year on average in this country. That's with no attempts at social distancing. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html With massive, unprecedented attempts at social distancing, the President is now claiming that if 100,000 to 200,000 people die due to the new coronavirus, we will have successfully managed the outbreak. Where did you get 37,250? BGW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Where did you get 37,250? BGW I added up all the numbers and then divided by the number of numbers there are. Did I fuck up? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Alright gotta get to May that's when flu season ends... Hammer down, then it cranks back up in December. BGW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Belly Bob said: I added up all the numbers and then divided by the number of numbers there are. Did I fuck up? Kinda what I thought that why I pulled the graph... hi of 61k and low of 12k.. median somewhere... statistics. Big ass number. BGW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Belly Bob said: Forget about politics for a minute. Since 2010, 37,250 people have died from the flu each year on average in this country. That's with no attempts at social distancing. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html With massive, unprecedented attempts at social distancing, the President is now claiming that if 100,000 to 200,000 people die due to the new coronavirus, we will have successfully managed the outbreak. 37,875... but still a fuckload. Gotta' love CDC, all round numbers... nice and tidy. BGW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: 37,875... but still a fuckload. Gotta' love CDC, all round numbers... nice and tidy. BGW It is a big ass number. How many shut downs have we had because of it. how many death polls because of it? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted March 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, thc6795 said: it is ALL Trump's fault. finally you are getting it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted March 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, CODBEARD said: why has no flu ever caused this before even when they were more deadly??? that is the question... some serious bullshit going on I at least know that much it's above your pay grade to understand it appears 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, noonereal said: finally you are getting it! everything is Trump's fault, including when this shit is over and the economy is booming again. of course you will all say it's booming because of Saint obama. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted March 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 hour ago, thc6795 said: your agenda I have no agenda. I am but a concerned citizen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Just now, noonereal said: I have no agenda. I am but a concerned citizen. Ok 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted March 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, CODBEARD said: I am happy about that... Geez, I know someone else like this if that is how you need to be to get by, I have nothing negative to say, it's a strategy that works for some. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted March 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 1 minute ago, thc6795 said: Ok tell me what you perceive my agenda to be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted March 30, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, CODBEARD said: bullshit.. you only care about being on the winning side.. just like all you political fools i would hope we all want to be on the winning side of this virus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, thc6795 said: It is a big ass number. How many shut downs have we had because of it. how many death polls because of it? You got a point, however the fact that this virus is animal origin and mutated to crossover into humans then split into two variants pretty much relegates it to an unknown enemy. BGW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 How many deaths in Italy, 90k since December? BGW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 Oh, BTW flu shot is available... none for the existing pandemic. Aquarium cleaner and aspirin don't count, unless you're stupid. BGW 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thc6795 Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 19 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: You got a point, however the fact that this virus is animal origin and mutated to crossover into humans then split into two variants pretty much relegates it to an unknown enemy. BGW I thought they proved it was not animal orgin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted March 30, 2020 Report Share Posted March 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, thc6795 said: I thought they proved it was not animal orgin? Based on their genomic sequencing analysis, Andersen and his collaborators concluded that the most likely origins for SARS-CoV-2 followed one of two possible scenarios. In one scenario, the virus evolved to its current pathogenic state through natural selection in a non-human host and then jumped to humans. This is how previous coronavirus outbreaks have emerged, with humans contracting the virus after direct exposure to civets (SARS) and camels (MERS). The researchers proposed bats as the most likely reservoir for SARS-CoV-2 as it is very similar to a bat coronavirus. There are no documented cases of direct bat-human transmission, however, suggesting that an intermediate host was likely involved between bats and humans. In this scenario, both of the distinctive features of SARS-CoV-2's spike protein -- the RBD portion that binds to cells and the cleavage site that opens the virus up -- would have evolved to their current state prior to entering humans. In this case, the current epidemic would probably have emerged rapidly as soon as humans were infected, as the virus would have already evolved the features that make it pathogenic and able to spread between people. In the other proposed scenario, a non-pathogenic version of the virus jumped from an animal host into humans and then evolved to its current pathogenic state within the human population. For instance, some coronaviruses from pangolins, armadillo-like mammals found in Asia and Africa, have an RBD structure very similar to that of SARS-CoV-2. A coronavirus from a pangolin could possibly have been transmitted to a human, either directly or through an intermediary host such as civets or ferrets. Then the other distinct spike protein characteristic of SARS-CoV-2, the cleavage site, could have evolved within a human host, possibly via limited undetected circulation in the human population prior to the beginning of the epidemic. The researchers found that the SARS-CoV-2 cleavage site, appears similar to the cleavage sites of strains of bird flu that has been shown to transmit easily between people. SARS-CoV-2 could have evolved such a virulent cleavage site in human cells and soon kicked off the current epidemic, as the coronavirus would possibly have become far more capable of spreading between people. Study co-author Andrew Rambaut cautioned that it is difficult if not impossible to know at this point which of the scenarios is most likely. If the SARS-CoV-2 entered humans in its current pathogenic form from an animal source, it raises the probability of future outbreaks, as the illness-causing strain of the virus could still be circulating in the animal population and might once again jump into humans. The chances are lower of a non-pathogenic coronavirus entering the human population and then evolving properties similar to SARS-CoV-2 ~ excerpt from Science Daily. BGW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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