Bormio Posted July 2, 2020 Report Share Posted July 2, 2020 Shows hydroxychloroquine cut the death rate of hospitalized Covid patients from 26% to 13% - a 50% drop. Key was starting early. Oh, and patients did not have significant cardiac side effects - predictable with a drug widely used in the outpatient setting for many years with nary a peep about cardiac issues (eye issues are the primary side effect with long-term use). Looks like the drug saved about 150 lives in that study alone. And the bogus study in Lancet may have killed people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 Good to have you back brother..hope your mom is well.🙏👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted July 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said: Good to have you back brother..hope your mom is well.🙏👍 So far, so good ... just can’t see her in person 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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I AM IRONMAN Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 Oh look dickhead is back Los Guru etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted July 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said: Oh look dickhead is back Los Guru etc. I thought he might have Covid ... Miami is rife with it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Bormio said: Shows hydroxychloroquine cut the death rate of hospitalized Covid patients from 26% to 13% - a 50% drop. Key was starting early. Oh, and patients did not have significant cardiac side effects - predictable with a drug widely used in the outpatient setting for many years with nary a peep about cardiac issues (eye issues are the primary side effect with long-term use). Looks like the drug saved about 150 lives in that study alone. And the bogus study in Lancet may have killed people. My two oldest daughters and one niece are all RN’s working at different hospitals in SO CA. All three report medical staff (including several MD’s) have been using the medication since early on in the Covid outbreak. I’ve got a high school friend that retired from practice recently and he’s on it too. These folks either know something that the general public doesn’t, or there’s a lot of healthcare professionals living on the edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, The Guru said: Well apparently Dr. Fauxi owes Bormio an apology... You know... for intentionally lying about corona. Where is yours 💩 tosser? 🐒 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 55 minutes ago, On2whls said: My two oldest daughters and one niece are all RN’s working at different hospitals in SO CA. All three report medical staff (including several MD’s) have been using the medication since early on in the Covid outbreak. I’ve got a high school friend that retired from practice recently and he’s on it too. These folks either know something that the general public doesn’t, or there’s a lot of healthcare professionals living on the edge. Maybe fauxi will come out and say ..... We just lied to the 'people' again.... you know... Because we need that stuff, for us medical people. 🤷♂️ That lie worked like a charm on that whole mask thingy....😷 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On2whls Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 27 minutes ago, Troll said: Maybe fauxi will come out and say ..... We just lied to the 'people' again.... you know... Because we need that stuff, for us medical people. 🤷♂️ That lie worked like a charm on that whole mask thingy....😷 Who knew the truth about almost anything would become so evasive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted July 3, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 41 minutes ago, Troll said: Maybe fauxi will come out and say ..... We just lied to the 'people' again.... you know... Because we need that stuff, for us medical people. 🤷♂️ That lie worked like a charm on that whole mask thingy....😷 Lying about masks was inexcusable. If he believed they were useful, he absolutely should have not lied about it. He is all over the map on nearly everything. Says one thing to one media source, and nearly the opposite elsewhere. And he is in love with the sound of his own voice. And he tries to look so cool with that Nationals mask he wears. A total poser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Bormio said: Lying about masks was inexcusable. If he believed they were useful, he absolutely should have not lied about it. He is all over the map on nearly everything. Says one thing to one media source, and nearly the opposite elsewhere. And he is in love with the sound of his own voice. Vaccine for the flu... is an OXYMORON... But that's his profession.... and where he gets paid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 10 hours ago, Troll said: Well apparently Dr. Fauxi owes Bormio an apology... You know... for intentionally lying about corona. Where is yours 💩 tosser? 🐒 Bormio is a 🤡 If we lined up all of the stuff he's said about COVID-19 it would contradict himself twice over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, The Guru said: Bormio is a 🤡 If we lined up all of the stuff he's said about COVID-19 it would contradict himself twice over. And yet Bormio is still better than the 💩 clown you worship..... and still waiting on the apology.... BTW: How do you know fauxi isn't lying to you right now (for your own good LOL) ? Clue: you don't..... as spoken and told to you, by your 🤡 idol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 10 hours ago, Troll said: Maybe fauxi will come out and say ..... We just lied to the 'people' again.... you know... Because we need that stuff, for us medical people. 🤷♂️ That lie worked like a charm on that whole mask thingy....😷 yea...the "mask thingy" conspiracy huh??….they don't work!!….just a political stunt meant to make Trump lose the election!!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 Anything coming out of the White House, media, think tanks, etc., needs to be evaluated. So much confusion out there, I wear a mask when in proximity or indoors, hands sanitized, washed etc.,. traveling by air... gloves, n95, the whole works... pretty much doing this since covid dropped. The partisan politics, the agendas etc.,.. just make it more to sift through.. even the adage " the truth is somewhere in the middle " do not hold up to the test. Fauci works for Trump. Smoke and mirrors, mixed messages. bgw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 40 minutes ago, DBP66 said: yea...the "mask thingy" conspiracy huh??….they don't work!!….just a political stunt meant to make Trump lose the election!!... Why you calling your boy out like that ??? you know what he is gonna tell you... 🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Troll said: Why you calling your boy out like that ??? you know what he is gonna tell you... 🤡 I'm talking about the effectiveness of masks Ronnie....so I guess it's a "conspiracy" to get Biden elected huh??…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, DBP66 said: I'm talking about the effectiveness of masks Ronnie....…. you miss it? maybe this will help... 12 minutes ago, DBP66 said: ....so I guess it's a "conspiracy" to get Biden elected huh??…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15yds4gibberish Posted July 3, 2020 Report Share Posted July 3, 2020 15 hours ago, Bormio said: Shows hydroxychloroquine cut the death rate of hospitalized Covid patients from 26% to 13% - a 50% drop. Key was starting early. Oh, and patients did not have significant cardiac side effects - predictable with a drug widely used in the outpatient setting for many years with nary a peep about cardiac issues (eye issues are the primary side effect with long-term use). Looks like the drug saved about 150 lives in that study alone. And the bogus study in Lancet may have killed people. Since there was no link, I googled "Henry Ford Study" and this is the first thing that came up. https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/health/ I'd stick a pin in this and take a wait and see approach, because it was only an observational study, and it exhibits a number characteristics that often don't hold up over time. For example it looks like they delivered a steroid that was already shown to be effective at the same time as hydroxychloroquine - So there's a very strong possibility the result is from the steroid, not hydroxy From the article: "Finally, concomitant steroid use in patients receiving hydroxychloroquine was more than double the non-treated group. This is relevant considering the recent RECOVERY trial that showed a mortality benefit with dexamethasone." The steroid dexamethasone can reduce inflammation in seriously ill patients.-coronavirus-detroit-study/index.html I'd put a lot more faith in the Oxford hydroxy study as it was conducted with a lot more patients and control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted July 4, 2020 Report Share Posted July 4, 2020 On 7/3/2020 at 8:21 AM, 15yds4gibberish said: Since there was no link, I googled "Henry Ford Study" and this is the first thing that came up. https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/02/health/ I'd stick a pin in this and take a wait and see approach, because it was only an observational study, and it exhibits a number characteristics that often don't hold up over time. For example it looks like they delivered a steroid that was already shown to be effective at the same time as hydroxychloroquine - So there's a very strong possibility the result is from the steroid, not hydroxy From the article: "Finally, concomitant steroid use in patients receiving hydroxychloroquine was more than double the non-treated group. This is relevant considering the recent RECOVERY trial that showed a mortality benefit with dexamethasone." The steroid dexamethasone can reduce inflammation in seriously ill patients.-coronavirus-detroit-study/index.html I'd put a lot more faith in the Oxford hydroxy study as it was conducted with a lot more patients and control. There NEVER is a link to show what he is talking about. Allergic to links? Idk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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