Bormio Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 2 polls show trouble for Biden. Miami Herald has Trump leading in the Latino vote in Miami Dade. Marist has him leading Latino vote statewide by 4 points. Hillary won the Latino vote by 27 points in Florida. Florida Latinos always a little more GOP than the rest of the nation, due to Cubans. But still, these are ugly numbers for Biden in a demographic he must win big. It has been talked about for a while, now appears real. Biden has a Latino problem. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 I heard that if you're having a problem figuring out whether you're for Biden or Trump, then you ain't Latino. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted September 8, 2020 Report Share Posted September 8, 2020 30 minutes ago, Bormio said: 2 polls show trouble for Biden. Miami Herald has Trump leading in the Latino vote in Miami Dade. Marist has him leading Latino vote statewide by 4 points. Hillary won the Latino vote by 27 points in Florida. Florida Latinos always a little more GOP than the rest of the nation, due to Cubans. But still, these are ugly numbers for Biden in a demographic he must win big. It has been talked about for a while, now appears real. Biden has a Latino problem. Why would any Latino want what biden is pushing they know the hell holes where they are from and the type of government in charge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted September 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Politico has an article today about panic among Miami Democrats. Trump is way outspending Biden on South Florida Spanish stations. Appears to be working. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 The Cubanos in Miami must look at today's Dam Party and wonder if any of the fucking idiots have ever read a history or economics book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 From axios Biden's soft Hispanic support https://www.axios.com/bidens-hispanic-voter-challenge-97fe0a3f-7f64-4e74-9471-f8a9a49c2226.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 17 hours ago, Bormio said: 2 polls show trouble for Biden. Miami Herald has Trump leading in the Latino vote in Miami Dade. Marist has him leading Latino vote statewide by 4 points. Hillary won the Latino vote by 27 points in Florida. Florida Latinos always a little more GOP than the rest of the nation, due to Cubans. But still, these are ugly numbers for Biden in a demographic he must win big. It has been talked about for a while, now appears real. Biden has a Latino problem. Typical of Bormio. He never links anything and then he draws silly conclusions from his non-linked post. That same Marist poll has the race tied statewide. So if Trump is leading among latinos in Dade County but tied statewide then that's bad news for Trump since it means that Biden is winning among retired white people who vote in large numbers. Either way it's not a good idea, generally, to compare polls to exit polls from election night. You made that same stupid mistake with the "youth" vote in another thread and embarrassed yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Bormio said: Politico has an article today about panic among Miami Democrats. Trump is way outspending Biden on South Florida Spanish stations. Appears to be working. The Marist poll had the state tied. Trump won Florida in 2016. But it's working like a charm! 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, concha said: The Cubanos in Miami must look at today's Dam Party and wonder if any of the fucking idiots have ever read a history or economics book. Young Cubans are more liberal than their parents. Heck, Cubans in general are liberal except for the Cuba question and their hatred of John Kennedy. It's illogical but reality nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 I think Cubans and Latinos in General are turned off about socialism which is just to Communism with an updated name. They remember the horror of Fidel Castro. They see Venezuela. They are smart enough to know that this wing of the democrat party is in control. Cubans and South Americans fled this evil and can see it trying to make a come back. Puerto Rican’s are gonna be harder to convince because they are the only Hispanic country that automatically gets the benefit of America without doing anything. I would love to trade PR for Cuba. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga96 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Hispanic vote Latino isn't correct when it refers to those Spanish speaking ethnicities. Latino refers only to those of latin descent. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ga96 said: Hispanic vote Latino isn't correct when it refers to those Spanish speaking ethnicities. Latino refers only to those of latin descent. It’s all the same. I don’t call you Sudanese or Somali. I just call you black. You can call me white instead of Italian or Irish. Hispanics, Latinos, Spanish it’s all the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 Venezuelan-American voters, albeit a relatively small population compared to Cuban-Americans, are clearly favoring Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article245495835.html Biden is struggling to win Miami Latinos, new poll finds. Will it cost him Florida? Quote ... The poll of 500 likely Miami-Dade voters, released Tuesday, found Trump far behind Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden 38% to 55% in Miami-Dade, where Democrats typically need to run up the score in order to compete in statewide races. That 17-point deficit is well outside the poll’s 4.4 percentage point margin of error. But Trump doesn’t need to win Miami-Dade. He just needs to do better in the Democratic-leaning county to offset possible losses in other parts of Florida. In 2016, he lost Miami-Dade to Hillary Clinton by 30 points — about 290,000 votes — but won the state by 1.2% of the total vote. 30 points in 2016 now down to 17 points per this poll. "Yuge" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted September 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said: The Marist poll had the state tied. Trump won Florida in 2016. But it's working like a charm! 😄 If Biden loses the Hispanic vote in Florida, he loses the state ... period. I don’t care what the top line Marist number is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, concha said: 30 points in 2016 now down to 17 points per this poll. "Yuge" But it only matters if it costs him the state. He's tied in the A+ Marist poll. If Biden wins the state this is meaningless poll diving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bormio said: If Biden loses the Hispanic vote in Florida, he loses the state ... period. I don’t care what the top line Marist number is. So you have no basis for your claim and you don't care what the poll says even though it's the same poll you're using to make your no-basis claim. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: But it only matters if it costs him the state. He's tied in the A+ Marist poll. If Biden wins the state this is meaningless poll diving. The last NBC/WSJ/Marist* poll from 2016 ended up picking Hillary. I'll check but I think she A+ lost, Andy. Losing minority votes in Miami-Dade in many cases is a straight -1 to Biden and +1 to Trump. Trump appears to be doing well with Latinos and there are indications, at least nationally, that he'll do better with blacks also. Any way you look at it, Biden's handlers cannotbe happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted September 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: So you have no basis for your claim and you don't care what the poll says even though it's the same poll you're using to make your no-basis claim. 😄 Try and find anyone who will bet Biden loses the Hispanic vote in Florida but wins the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, concha said: The last NBC/WSJ/Marist* poll from 2016 ended up picking Hillary. So one time something happened and so something similar will happen again. Cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, concha said: Trump appears to be doing well with Latinos and there are indications, at least nationally, that he'll do better with blacks also. Any way you look at it, Biden's handlers cannotbe happy. And he's doing better than Hillary did nationally (by a lot) and in most of the battleground states. Why? Because Biden is winning more white votes and they are more reliable voters than the minority groups. Cognitive dissonance is the only explanation for why you'd be giddy over the latino numbers while ignoring the fact that Trump is tied in the Marist poll and behind in most of the other ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Bormio said: Try and find anyone who will bet Biden loses the Hispanic vote in Florida but wins the state. Who gives a flip who would bet? Biden doing better with white voters and older voters has more evidence than Trump winning latinos in Florida. If he does that he can definitely win Florida. Trump was tied in the very poll that you're touting. You're clueless as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: So one time something happened and so something similar will happen again. Cool. So Marist being A+ might not be the case Florida, Andy. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, concha said: So Marist being A+ might not be the case Florida, Andy. It's A+ because it's one of the most accurate and least bias polls. But if you don't like A+ polls that got Florida wrong in 2016, what about a C poll? https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/florida/ Maybe you're a fan of B/C polls? Or C- polls? 🤷♂️ 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted September 9, 2020 Report Share Posted September 9, 2020 12 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: And he's doing better than Hillary did nationally (by a lot) and in most of the battleground states. Why? Because Biden is winning more white votes and they are more reliable voters than the minority groups. Cognitive dissonance is the only explanation for why you'd be giddy over the latino numbers while ignoring the fact that Trump is tied in the Marist poll and behind in most of the other ones. I happen to believe that Trump support is undercounted. Some of it is due to things like CNBC oversampling certain demos (just an example). Some of it is due to Trump supporters being less likely to be open about their support (Rasmussen came out with data further supporting this). Quote The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 17% of Likely U.S. Voters who Strongly Approve of the job President Trump is doing say they are less likely to let others know how they intend to vote in the upcoming election. Agree, disagree... IDGAF, Andy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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