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Georgia prosecutor investigating Trump's attempts to reverse election results asks for grand jury

Christopher Wilson
Christopher Wilson
·Senior Writer
Thu, January 20, 2022, 2:07 PM
 
 

The Fulton County, Ga., district attorney looking into then-President Donald Trump’s attempts to overturn the 2020 election results in the state is requesting a special grand jury to aid in her investigation.

District Attorney Fani Willis made the request in a Thursday letter to the chief judge of Fulton County’s Superior Court. Fulton County is the state’s most populous county and is home to Atlanta, Georgia’s capital and the center of Trump’s push to flip the presidential race there. Joe Biden won Georgia by a narrow margin, becoming the first Democrat to carry the state since 1992.

District Attorney Fani Willis, in profile.
 
Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis. (Ben Gray/AP Photo)

Willis, a Democrat, cited the lack of cooperation from witnesses, including Georgia's Republican secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger, who “refused to cooperate with the investigation absent a subpoena requiring their testimony.” The special grand jury would be empaneled longer than normal and would focus solely on the case, but would not be able to issue indictments.

The inquiry started last February and centered on a Jan. 2, 2021, call between Trump and Raffensperger. Trump urged Raffensperger to “find 11,780 votes” that made up Biden’s winning margin in the state. Raffensperger refused.

Earlier this month, Willis told the Associated Press her team was making progress in the case but was not rushing things.

“I believe in 2022 a decision will be made in that case,” she said. “I certainly think that in the first half of the year that decisions will be made.”

In a statement Thursday afternoon, Trump said he “didn’t say anything wrong” in his “perfect” call with Raffensperger. He also repeated his baseless claims of election fraud, saying that the special grand jury “should be looking into ... the large scale voter fraud that took place in Georgia.”

The Georgia news comes amid increasing scrutiny into Trump, his family and his business. On Tuesday, New York State Attorney General Letitia James moved forward in an attempt to get Trump, son Donald Trump Jr. and daughter Ivanka Trump to comply with her investigation into the Trump Organization finances.

Donald Trump speaks into a microphone at a podium bearing the presidential seal, standing in front of American flags.
 
President Donald Trump speaks during an election night event at the White House early in the morning of Nov. 4, 2020. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post via Getty Images)

On Wednesday, the Supreme Court declined Trump’s request to prevent congressional investigators from obtaining White House records concerning Trump’s activities leading up to and during the Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol. Trump had attempted to claim executive privilege, but the 8-1 ruling allowed the House select committee investigating Jan. 6 access to hundreds of pages of documents.

The following day, the committee asked Ivanka Trump, who had served as a White House adviser, to cooperate in the investigation. Earlier this week, subpoenas were issued to Rudy Giuliani and other members of Trump’s legal teams who were working to overturn the election results.

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1 hour ago, I AM IRONMAN said:

I've moved on you apparently haven't. You cut and paste everything you can find about Trump...probably to deter your thoughts on Mr. Potato Head and the bang up job he is doing!😂

I'm happy to hear you've moved on...I hope you really did. This post is just a public information post on all the latest news headlines Trump keeps making...I can't help it if he's dominating the current news with bad news about himself and his situation...he has a lot to worry about if you've seen all the posts....and his kids too...😉

I'm just here cheering for the wheels of justice.....like all Americans should be...😉

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Former Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis claims the January 6 committee is subpoenaing her because they're 'mad' they can't 'date' her

 
 
Cheryl Teh
Thu, January 20, 2022, 10:45 PM
 
 
Jenna Ellis and Sidney Powell, right, attorneys for President Donald Trump, conduct a news conference at the Republican National Committee on lawsuits regarding the outcome of the 2020 presidential election on Thursday, November 19, 2020.
 
Former Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis was among four Trump lawyers subpoenaed this week by the January 6 panel.Tom Williams/CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images
  • Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis says the January 6 panel is subpoenaing her because they're 'mad' they can't 'date' her.

  • Ellis was subpoenaed by the panel, along with Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, and Boris Epshteyn.

  • She is being asked to produce documents by February 1, and appear for a deposition by February 6.

Former Trump lawyer Jenna Ellis has a theory about why she was subpoenaed by the January 6 panel investigating the Capitol riot.

"The committee is just mad they can't date me," Ellis tweeted on Wednesday.

Ellis tweeted the comment after she and three other former Trump lawyers, Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, and Boris Epshteyn, were subpoenaed by the January 6 committee.

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On 1/20/2022 at 2:29 PM, DBP66 said:

what's weird is the BIG lie still lives on and you still believe it......😪

Rasmussen Reports@Rasmussen_poll

“How likely is it that cheating affected the outcome of the 2020 presidential election?"

- LIKELY -
DEM: Now 41% <--
IND: Now 58%
GOP: Now 79%
All Voters: 59%

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/

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3 hours ago, Slotback Right said:

Rasmussen Reports@Rasmussen_poll

“How likely is it that cheating affected the outcome of the 2020 presidential election?"

- LIKELY -
DEM: Now 41% <--
IND: Now 58%
GOP: Now 79%
All Voters: 59%

https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/

How sad....Trump appointed a guy to oversee the election, Chri Krebs. hIs only job was to make sure there was no election fraud. He confirmed after the election there was NO widespread election fraud and the election was fair and square. After he told the country of his findings he was fired by Trump.

Fast forward... we've done many state audits since the election that once again prove there was no cheating in the election so what happened here? How could so many Americans be walking around believing a LIE?! Because Trump sold his lie to them before the election even occurred. He started talking about the election being rigged in June when he saw the polling numbers were consistently showing that he was behind Biden. So the BIG lie got a life of it's own and started before the election occurred by Trump planting seeds of doubt....so the one truth we do know is if you repeat a lie enough people will believe it...that's today's America...a society of brain-washed morons....how SAD!!...as the world watches in disbelief and wanna-be dictators are taking notes.

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Republicans in 7 states submitted documents falsely certifying the election for Trump. Most State Attorneys General are investigating if it constitutes fraud.

A watchdog group found Republicans in 7 states tried to falsely certify the election in favor of Donald Trump.

Groups in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin forged documents. 

Attorneys General in three of those states told Insider how they're dealing with it. 

Some Attorneys General in states where illegitimate electors tried to falsify documents saying Donald Trump won the majority of votes are investigating and considering charges. 

Republican supporters of Trump in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin submitted documents to Congress falsely claiming Trump won the states after the majority of votes actually went to Joe Biden, according to documents obtained by the watchdog group American Oversight in March 2021. 

American Oversight requested all 2020 certificates of electoral votes that weren't already published in the 2020 Electoral College Results.

"The coordinated, multi-state effort to cast doubt on the 2020 election and undermine the electoral vote process tragically led to the violent Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol in which a pro-Trump mob stormed the building and sought to physically block the congressional certification of each state's real Electoral College votes," American Oversight said of its findings. 

Insider reached out to Attorneys General in each of the states seeking comment on the findings. In Nevada, Attorney General Aaron Ford said his office can't "confirm or deny the existence of an investigation," but said the report is on "our radar, and we take seriously any efforts to rob Nevadans of their votes."

"There has been a sustained effort to invalidate the 2020 election and to downplay the shocking actions that took place afterward. My office cannot and will not accept any efforts to overturn a free and fair election. Voting rights are fundamental to our democratic republic, and we will continue to protect them," Ford said in a statement. 

New Mexico Attorney General Hector Balderas told Insider the incident is being reviewed. 

 

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You know, when Trump left office, I thought there was zero chance that Trump would be President again.  But I swear, if Biden runs again, it is really now possible Trump could beat him.  Maybe not likely, but certainly plausible.  And if Trump could beat him, there are about 10 Republicans who could slaughter him.  Am not sure that the Democrats engaging in a jihad to make Trump more unelectable is in their interest.

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17 hours ago, DBP66 said:

If you say so....either way not too smart of a comment coming from a "lawyer" in deep shit.....somethings are better left unsaid.

I agree it was a dumb thing for her to say, but she probably thought she was being funny

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2022/jan/2/aoc-sexually-frustrated-republicans-want-date-her/

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‘House of Trump is crumbling’: why ex-president’s legal net is tightening

Ed Pilkington in New York - 11h ago

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When Donald Trump announced plans in 2006 to build a golf complex on ancient sand dunes on the Aberdeenshire coast in Scotland he told reporters it was love at first sight. “As soon as I saw it there was no question about it,” he said. It would be the world’s “greatest golf course”.

This week Trump International Scotland became a central element of a case that looks poised to dominate his post-presidential life, and could even put him behind bars.

Local fishermen denounced Trump as a “loudmouth bully” during construction of the course. Environmentalists warned the development would destroy the natural habitat, and sure enough it did inflict such damage that the site was stripped of its protected status.

But none of this deflected Trump from his goal. Today, the Scottish complex stands as a “premier luxury golf” experience replete with five-star hotel and helicopter landing pad, at a bargain membership of £2,595 ($3,518) a year.

Fifteen years on, the property has done wonders for its owner. That is, if you measure success according to the idiosyncratic accounting style of Donald Trump.

He bought the 2,000 acres (809 hectares) site at Menie in 2006 for $12.6m. Within five short years it was valued by the Trump Organization in its financial statements at $161m, an increase of almost 13 times.

By 2014, the windswept Scottish holding was put at $436m.

The hike caught the attention of Letitia James, New York state’s progressive attorney general known for her relentless pursuit of the rich and powerful. How the Scottish property came to rise meteorically in value is one of the matters she is exploring in her continuing investigation into Trump Organization finances.

In a new filing released this week designed to pressure Trump and two of his children – Ivanka and Donald Jr – into facing questioning, James forensically dissects how such strikingly large valuations came about. The 2011 estimate for the Scottish property, her investigators discovered, included an estimated £75,000 ($120,000 at 2011 exchange rates) for undeveloped land at the site.

Investigating deeper, they found that the figure had been created for an article in Forbes magazine. The revelation prompted a line in this week’s filing that must be among the tartest in US financial history.

“It thus appears,” James writes, “that the valuation of Trump Aberdeen used for Mr Trump’s financial statement was prepared for purposes of providing information to Forbes magazine in a quote.”

James’s legal document is packed with similarly juicy tidbits. The 2014 value of the Scottish golf club was based in part on the projected sale price of 2,500 houses on the land, even though none of the houses actually existed and the company had planning permission for only half that number.

In 1995 the Trump Organization bought a parcel of land in Westchester, New York, known as the Seven Springs Estate, for $7.5m. By 2004 it was valued at $80m and by 2014 at $291m. That 2014 figure, James notes in another exquisitely tart reference, included a valuation of $161m for “seven non-existent mansions”.

The juiciest tidbit of all concerns Trump’s former home, the gilded Fifth Avenue temple to his own ego dubbed “Versailles in the sky”, in which he lived before moving into the White House. James’s investigators were puzzled to find the Trump Tower triplex in Manhattan was listed at $327m in 2015, based on the apartment’s size, allegedly 30,000 sq feet.

In fact the property is 11,000 sq feet, which produces a value of $117m. That’s an overstatement in Trump’s official financial statements of more than $200m.

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2022 is shaping up to be a legal nightmare for Trumpworld. Here's a timeline of upcoming court cases and legal obstacles.

 
 
Jacob Shamsian,Camila DeChalus,C. Ryan Barber
Tue, January 25, 2022, 2:38 PM
 
 
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Political consultant Roger Stone, former President Donald Trump, and Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida.Anna Moneymaker/Getty Images; Scott Olson/Getty Images; Greg Nash-Pool/Getty Images
  • Donald Trump and his allies are facing a flurry of legal challenges this year.

  • The New York investigations into his company’s finances are ongoing, as are other lawsuits related to his business and January 6.

  • Here are the dates to watch out for this year.

Former President Donald Trump has had a number of surprising legal victories ever since he left the White House — though his greatest potential battles are still looming.

In November, Summer Zervos, who had accused Trump of sexual assault following her appearance on "The Apprentice," dropped her lawsuit against him before he was forced to sit for a deposition. At around the same time, a New York state judge dismissed a lawsuit from Michael Cohen seeking to have the Trump Organization reimburse legal fees for illegal work he did on Trump's behalf.

But greater dangers loom. The Trump Organization is the subject of a sprawling investigation from the Manhattan District Attorney's and New York Attorney General's offices into alleged financial misconduct.

In Atlanta, Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is weighing charges over his conduct in the 2020 election. Those investigations are proceeding as the Justice Department comes up on the five-year deadline to prosecute Trump over the acts of possible obstruction that former Special Counsel Robert Mueller III scrutinized as part of his investigation into Russia's interference in the 2016 election.

 

Meanwhile, the Biden administration is sending a steady stream of Trump's White House records to the House committee investigating the January 6 attack on the Capitol. And Trump — along with many of his allies — face political investigations and lawsuits stemming from the January 6 insurrection in 2021. Expect the judges in those cases to set court dates for those cases later this year.

While Trump mulls whether to run for president again in 2024, 2022 is shaping up to be a year of legal headaches for Trump and his associates. Here's a timeline of the threats Trumpworld faces.

January

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Allen Weisselberg, center, the Trump Organization's chief financial officer, arrives for a courtroom appearance in New York, Monday, Sept. 20, 2021.AP Photo/Craig Ruttle)

January 31 — A New York state court in Manhattan court will hold a hearing in the criminal case against the Trump Organization and its CFO Allen Weisselberg, who's become more marginalized within the company following the indictment from last July.

The status conference is expected to update the public on how Trump Organization lawyers are reviewing the 6 million pages of discovery material for the case, where the Manhattan District Attorney's office alleges the company and executive dodged millions of dollars in taxes. The judge has also signaled he wants to hold a trial before the end of 2022.

February

DC Attorney General Karl Rancine speaking outside of the US Capitol.
 
DC Attorney General Karl Racine speaks during a news conference outside the US Capitol on Tuesday, Dec. 14, 2021.Bill Clark/Getty Images

February 4 — Trump's lawyers pushed for months in federal courts to keep the Biden administration from turning over his White House records to the House committee investigating the January 6 attack on the Capitol. At every turn, the former president lost, with the Supreme Court effectively rejecting his claim of executive privilege.

Now, with the National Archives and Records Administration already turning over documents, Trump is facing a decision of how — or whether — to proceed with his legal challenge.

An answer could come in early February. Just days after the Supreme Court declined to take up Trump's case, lawyers for the House and Biden administration asked to have until February 4 to make their latest response to the former president's legal arguments.

In light of the Supreme Court decision and subsequent product of records to the House committee, the lawyers said they had agreed that the best course was to extend the deadline so that Trump "can determine his next steps."

February 17 — A Washington, DC, court is set to hold a hearing on the DC Attorney General's lawsuit against Donald Trump's 2017 inaugural committee. In November, Trump notched a partial win as the judge dismissed part of the suit, but other elements of the case — where the attorney general's office alleges the committee illegally misused funds — will be moving forward. The hearing is expected to set a schedule for the discovery process before it goes to trial.

March

Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz looks at his phone in an empty hearing room.
 
Rep. Matt Gaetz, a Republican of Florida.Caroline Brehman/CQ-Roll Call/Getty Images

March 29 — Joel Greenberg, a former associate of Rep. Republican Matt Gaetz of Florida, is expected to go before a judge for his prison sentencing. Greenberg could potentially be a key witness in the Justice Department investigation into the lawmaker.

The Gaetz associate has already pleaded guilty to several charges, including sex trafficking. Gaetz is one of Trump's most loyal supporters.

April

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Former President Donald Trump arrives at Trump Tower in Manhattan on August 22, 2021, in New York City.James Devaney/GC Images

April 4 — The second special grand jury empaneled by the Manhattan District Attorney's office in its criminal investigation into the Trump Organization's finances is set to wrap up by this date. Another indictment in the investigation — or decision from prosecutors to not indict — could come shortly afterward.

May

Trump Tower
 
Then President-elect Donald Trump boards the elevator at Trump Tower in New York City on January 16, 2017.Dominick Reuter/AFP via Getty Images

May 2 — Jury selection is scheduled to begin for a trial for a civil lawsuit brought by a group of protesters against the Trump Organization. The protesters sued in 2015, alleging the company's security guards roughed them up during a demonstration outside Trump Tower. A video of a deposition Trump was forced to take this past fall is expected to be shown at the trial as evidence.

May 2 — A special grand jury for Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis's investigation into Trump will be impaneled on May 2 and continue for up to 12 months. This announcement on Monday comes after Willis formally requested to have a special grand jury that would give her the subpoena power to obtain documents and compel witnesses to testify.

June

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Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis walks past boxes filed with criminal cases at her office Wednesday, Feb. 24, 2021, in Atlanta.AP Photo/John Bazemore

June 1 — Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis told the Associated Press in January that she is expecting to decide whether to charge Trump by the first half of 2022.

June 29 — Litigants will get to see a copy of Trump's "Celebrity Apprentice" tapes. June 29 marks the deadline of discovery in a lawsuit brought by a group of people who say the Trump Organization pushed an alleged pyramid scheme.

While Trump, in "Celebrity Apprentice," vouched for the ACN Videophone, litigants are trying to figure out if other footage shot for the show demonstrated otherwise. ACN lost an attempt to bring the case to arbitration, and a jury trial is expected to be scheduled for late 2022 or 2023.

July

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Steve Bannon waves after speaking to the press on his way out of federal court on November 15, 2021 in Washington, DC.Drew Angerer/Getty Images)

July 7 — Prosecutors and Roger Stone, one of Trump's longtime political advisors, have to meet this deadline for a criminal case where prosecutors allege Stone failed to pay millions in taxes.

July 18 — Former White House chief strategist Steve Bannon is expected to go to court in Washington, DC. Bannon is facing two criminal charges over defying a congressional subpoena. The Justice Department formally charged him in November 2021 after he refused to comply with a subpoena handed down from the House Select Committee that is investigating the January 6 riot.

November

Roger Stone holds up an autographed print of former President Donald Trump.
 
Trump ally Roger Stone is auctioning off a non-fungible token of an autograph addressed to him by former President Donald Trump.Stone Cold Collection/Roger Stone

November 7 — Trump's longtime political advisor Roger Stone is scheduled to go to trial in federal court in Florida over allegations that he failed to pay more than $2 million in taxes.

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Biden Administration Mounts Daring Mission To Evacuate Hunter’s Remaining Cash From Ukraine
January 24th, 2022 - BabylonBee.com

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UKRAINE—As Russian troops assemble at Ukraine's border ahead of a possible land invasion, President Biden has taken swift action by deploying an elite seal team to evacuate his son Hunter's money.

"At my direction, military operatives infiltrated a bank to evacuate my son's stash of sweet, sweet Burisma cash before Russia murdered everyone. I didn't want to risk that money falling into the wrong hands," said Biden in a statement to congress. "Unfortunately, we haven't been able to evacuate Americans from the country because I put all our resources on this operation. But make no mistake, we will leave no dollar behind."

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Ukraine Invites Kyle Rittenhouse To Guard Their Border
January 24th, 2022 - BabylonBee.com
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KIEV, UKRAINE—As Russian troops increased their threat to Ukraine’s sovereignty and independence, the Ukrainian military showed their tactical prowess by asking Kyle Rittenhouse to come and guard their border with Russia.

“Yo, Kyle, hope all is well. Hey listen, our citizens are under threat from Putin and his d-bag army,” texted Ukrainian Minister of Defense, Sergei Ukrainovich to America’s national hero, Kyle Rittenhouse. “Could u do us a solid and come guard our border? Bring ur AR-15 lol thx.”

While some praised the move as militarily brilliant as well as based, citing the fact that no military has the capacity to withstand the freedom-spewing courage of Mr. Rittenhouse, U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin criticized the move, citing Kyle Rittenhouse’s status as a cis-white male, and reminding everyone that guarding Ukraine would require him to CROSS STATE LINES. 

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Poll: Nearly 6 in 10 Republicans say they will not vote for any candidate who admits Biden won 'fair and square'

 
 
Andrew Romano
Andrew Romano
·West Coast Correspondent
Thu, January 27, 2022, 11:22 AM
 
 
Joe Biden, with one hand on a Bible held by his wife and the other hand raised, is sworn in president.
 
Joe Biden is sworn in as president on Jan. 20, 2021. (Andrew Harnik/Pool via Reuters)

Despite a mountain of evidence showing the 2020 presidential contest wasn’t rigged against Donald Trump, nearly 6 in 10 Republicans and Republican-leaning independents (57 percent) now say they will not vote in upcoming elections for any candidate who admits that Joe Biden won the presidency "fair and square."

Only 17 percent say they would consider voting for a candidate who accurately characterizes Biden’s victory as legitimate.

These numbers underscore the degree to which Trump’s “big lie” claiming Biden cheated his way into the White House — a falsehood that three-quarters of Trump voters (74 percent) now believe — has become a litmus test for the entire GOP, crowding out other issues and strengthening Trump’s grip on the party ahead of the 2022 midterms.

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For his part, Trump has made it clear that supporting his election fabrications is key to his own personal endorsement. Indeed, the former president is backing primary candidates against state officials who bucked his attempts to overturn the election.

 

The poll data also helps explain why Republican presidential hopefuls such as Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis now want to spend millions of dollars on special “election crimes” police units tasked with finding fraud where they previously insisted there was none.

“The way Florida did it, I think, inspired confidence,” DeSantis said immediately after the 2020 election. “That’s how elections should be run.”

The survey of 1,568 U.S. adults, which was conducted from Jan. 20 to 24, found that when asked which issue they want future candidates to focus on the most, the share of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who say “stopping Democrats from rigging and stealing elections” (17 percent) — something that Democrats are not doing — is statistically equivalent to the share who say “bringing down inflation” (19 percent).

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A flag at a campaign rally with President Donald Trump and Sen. Kelly Loeffler in Dalton, Ga., on Jan. 4, 2021, the eve of Georgia's Senate runoff election. (Brian Snyder/Reuters)

Other core conservative policies don’t even come close: “ending COVID restrictions” (10 percent), “fighting crime” (8 percent), “outlawing abortion” (5 percent), “cutting taxes” (5 percent), “appointing Supreme Court justices” (2 percent) and “giving parents more controls over schools” (2 percent). Only “securing the border” (23 percent) ranks higher.

Likewise, if the GOP wins control of Congress in November, 56 percent of Republicans say they want the party to launch yet another investigation of the 2020 presidential election — twice the number (28 percent) who say the opposite.

Trump remains the GOP’s most powerful and influential figure. Looking ahead, 56 percent of Republicans and Republican leaners say Trump’s endorsement is more important than that of “other Republican leaders” (23 percent) when they are deciding how to vote. Half (50 percent) say Trump was “the best Republican president” — far better than George H.W. Bush (4 percent) and his son George W. Bush (9 percent), and significantly better even than conservative icon Ronald Reagan (37 percent). Eighty-two percent rate Trump favorably, and 83 percent say they would vote for him in a rematch with Biden.

For the broader population of voters, Biden's job approval rating continues to sink. Fifty-three percent of Americans disapprove of how he’s handling the presidency, compared with 40 percent who approve, and a mere 2 points now separate him (42 percent) and Trump (40 percent) in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup. In the Dec. 13 Yahoo News/YouGov poll, Biden (45 percent) led Trump (38 percent) by 7.

President Donald Trump delivers his first State of the Union address to Congress in 2018 as Vice President Mike Pence and House Speaker Paul Ryan applaud.
 
Trump delivers his first State of the Union address to a joint session of Congress on Jan. 30, 2018. (Win McNamee/Pool via Reuters)

There are signs that at least some Republicans are open to alternatives to Trump. More than a quarter (27 percent) say he should not run again. Sixteen percent say they would consider voting for centrist West Virginia Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin if he were to run for president as an independent, more than the number of Democrats (10 percent) or independents (15 percent) who say the same. And 21 percent already say they would vote for DeSantis over Trump in the GOP primary; other potential candidates — including former Vice President Mike Pence (6 percent), former U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley (6 percent) and Fox News host Tucker Carlson (2 percent) — combine for another 19 percent of the vote, and 12 percent say they’re not sure.

DeSantis’s unfavorable rating among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents (12 percent) is also lower than Trump’s (15 percent). More than half (51 percent) rate the Florida governor “very” favorably, on par with the far more familiar Trump (57 percent).

As a result, less than half of Republicans and GOP-aligned independents (46 percent) currently say they would vote for Trump in the 2024 GOP primaries. Still, it’s worth noting how close that number is to the 45 percent of the popular vote that Trump won across all Republican primaries in 2016 — enough to secure him the nomination and ultimately propel him to the White House.

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11 hours ago, DBP66 said:

Poll: Nearly 6 in 10 Republicans say they will not vote for any candidate who admits Biden won 'fair and square'

 
 
Andrew Romano

TLDNR...but according to your headline LOL...

Are you trying to insinuate that the majority of half the population

are stupid crazy nuts 🥜 ?

...or is it just you ???

🤔

 

PS: 9x15 krusty the clown episode 15 GIF on GIFER - by Kagalkree

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