Atticus Finch Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 How much credit does Giuliani deserve for fighting crime? • Violent crime in New York began falling three years before Giuliani took office in 1994, U.S. Justice Department records show. Property crime began falling four years before. The decline accelerated during his administration, but the "turnaround" he claims credit for started before him. • New York was no anomaly, but was part of a trend that saw crime fall sharply nationwide in the 1990s, particularly in big cities. The city with the best record for reducing violent crime during this period? San Francisco. • Independent studies generally have failed to link the tactics of the Giuliani administration with the large decrease in crime rates. Rather, many criminologists believe the decline in New York, as in Chicago, San Diego, Miami and elsewhere, was the result of a complex mix of social and demographic changes, including a break in the crack cocaine epidemic, an improving economy, and increased prison terms for proven lawbreakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 The "Giuliani crimefighting" record is almost entirely a myth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 56 minutes ago, Troll said: We already covered this ... ...and you lost. 💩 PS: NYC... (the US's Largest) BTW: 💩 Rudy looked good due to the Crime Bill Clinton signed giving NYC a lot of $$ to hire cops...right place at the right time...looks like he's in the WRONG place now...🙄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 1 minute ago, DBP66 said: Rudy looked good due to the Crime Bill Clinton signed giving NYC a lot of $$ to hire cops...right place at the right time.....🙄 ...and here I thought you were protesting to defund that 🤡 PS: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 11, 2022 Report Share Posted February 11, 2022 55 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: almost entirely a myth. AKA "not false" as in... TRUE LOL 💩 PS: You always stab yerself like that ???🤣 💩💩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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golfaddict1 Posted February 14, 2022 Report Share Posted February 14, 2022 https://www.thedailybeast.com/accounting-firm-mazars-drops-trump-organization-over-dubious-financial-docs?source=articles&via=rss After this… https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-york-attorney-general-we-found-significant-evidence-of-trump-organization-fraud #bettercallsaul #moregriftfundsneeded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, golfaddict1 said: #bettercallsaul 🤣 ☝️ Silly question but why don't you anti-Trumpers just hit those you oppose where it actually COUNTS ? 🤔 PS: I mean it's REALLY NOT HARD at all ... BTW: How is it so many miss... ...the 'big' picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Warrior Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 49 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: Are car manufacturers next? What about baseball bat manufacturers I hear they kill a lot of people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, Warrior said: Are car manufacturers next? What about baseball bat manufacturers I hear they kill a lot of people. Cars and baseball bats aren't designed for the purpose of killing people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 27 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Cars and baseball bats aren't designed for the purpose of killing people. Guns aren't designed for the purpose to kill people either outside of the military. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, Warrior said: Guns aren't designed for the purpose to kill people either outside of the military. This is utter nonsense. The AR-15 is a street legal version of the M-16. Totally designed to mow people down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: This is utter nonsense. The AR-15 is a street legal version of the M-16. Totally designed to mow people down. The AR-15 is used to hunt, self-defense, competitive and recreational shooting, home security and many more applications. The gun doesn't kill anyone, people do. Does a 9mm in the hands of criminal kill someone less than an AR? They both are semi-auto weapons. Something is wrong when we shift blame from the shooter and place it on the weapon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 32 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: This is utter nonsense. The AR-15 is a street legal version of the M-16. Totally designed to mow people down. Also please tell you how the difference? The M-16 is fully-auto and the AR is semi-auto. Very big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Warrior said: Are car manufacturers next? What about baseball bat manufacturers I hear they kill a lot of people. Sturm Ruger and Co. (RGR to my interest) bought Marlin Firearms during the bankruptcy proceedings from Remington. RGR was up early and when the news broke, it took a connected drop but not too extreme. There was an interesting Law and Order episode many years back and the result you would have liked. I'll have to see what I can dig up on that "fictional" yet quite interesting episode. Jack McCoy's trial move to accentuate the modified gun difference between shots was intense... but the judge had the final say. Edit: Full episode I highly recommend viewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: Sturm Ruger and Co. (RGR to my interest) bought Marlin Firearms during the bankruptcy proceedings from Remington. RGR was up early and when the news broke, it took a connected drop but not too extreme. There was an interesting Law and Order episode many years back and the result you would have liked. I'll have to see what I can dig up on that "fictional" yet quite interesting episode. Jack McCoy's trial move to accentuate the modified gun difference between shots was intense... but the judge had the final say. Edit: Full episode I highly recommend viewing. Maybe it’s me but I hold the person pulling the trigger accountable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 34 minutes ago, Warrior said: Also please tell you how the difference? The M-16 is fully-auto and the AR is semi-auto. Very big difference. That's the street legal part, dipshit. 👇 1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said: This is utter nonsense. The AR-15 is a street legal version of the M-16. Totally designed to mow people down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, Warrior said: Maybe it’s me but I hold the person pulling the trigger accountable. You are also interested in making sure nothing ever gets done. So it suits you to blame the dead shooter. It costs you nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, Warrior said: Maybe it’s me but I hold the person pulling the trigger accountable. Would it change your mind if the person modified the gun to shoot more bullets and the gun manufacturer knew it and didn't change the design flaw, which in turn, improved sales and notoriety for that gun manufacturer... as those in the know chose that model for obvious reasons = revenue on easiest modified sold product vs. safety precaution and lost revenue/sales. That was basically the X's and O's of the fictional trial. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 The AR-15 is semi-automatic and uses a small, essentially varmint caliber round. The .223 is much less powerful than the typical battle rifle rounds that preceded it such as the .308 (and its military near twin the 7.62x51 NATO) and the 30-06. The main attraction behind the .223 (and military and slightly more powerful 5.56x45 near twin) is that soldiers could carry many more rounds into battle - which was especially attractive in the jungles of Vietnam. The bullets are actually much less deadly than the aforementioned .30 caliber rounds used in the M-14, for example, which are about 2x as powerful. Another difference between the AR-15 and the M16 is that the vast majority of AR-15 rifles use short barrels that actually reduce the deadliness of the .223/5.56 round. The military rounds were designed to be fired from the 20" barrel of the M16, allowing for a velocity that caused the bullet to shatter on impact (turning it into almost a tiny shotgun round). Most AR-15s sold today only have 16" barrels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 30 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: You are also interested in making sure nothing ever gets done. So it suits you to blame the dead shooter. It costs you nothing. I believe plenty could be done. Education, mental health stipulations and many more things. Taking a certain type of gun doesn’t fix the problem dipshit, if someone wants to shoot someone there are plenty of options. Why not dig into the background of these shooters and address those issues, try to find the root cause. But what do I know you’re Finch and know everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 15, 2022 Report Share Posted February 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: Would it change your mind if the person modified the gun to shoot more bullets and the gun manufacturer knew it and didn't change the design flaw, which in turn, improved sales and notoriety for that gun manufacturer... as those in the know chose that model for obvious reasons = revenue on easiest modified sold product vs. safety precaution and lost revenue/sales. That was basically the X's and O's of the fictional trial. What was the design flaw? There are lots of semi-auto weapons on the market. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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