DBP66 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 28 minutes ago, I AM IRONMAN said: In between free crack pipe handouts and a nap or living on a golf course during your Presidency.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: A friendly reminder. The United States does not officially recognize Crimea as part of Russia. But Donald Trump does. Putin’s Useful Idiots Trump’s statements about Ukraine are as confusing as ever, at least if you try to read them for anything other than improvisatory self-aggrandizement. Trump’s Ukraine policy was all over the place: He sent weapons to Ukraine, something that the Obama administration had refused to do. He also accepted Putin’s seizure of Crimea, and he infamously tried to withhold aid from the Ukrainian government in exchange for help in the presidential election, leading to his first impeachment. So now we have two anonymous sources through Buzzfeed. Andy eats it up like he ate up the Russia dossier. 🤣 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted February 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, DBP66 said: or living on a golf course during your Presidency.... Better then living in a Basketball court?? Or living in Pelosi basement? or living under Monica lewiski desk or financing 911 ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 So when concha employs his pitiful and facile defense of "well, Putin didn't actually get anything!" he's being purposefully obtuse because his toady status demands it. Putin got the friendliest possible President that Russia could ever hope to have. He also, tangibly, got: 1) A weakening of the NATO alliance from within 2) A recognition of Crimea as a part of Russia 3) An internal promise for the US to leave NATO if Trump was reelected concha acts like this is nothing and that unless Trump gives Putin 100% of what he wanted than a puppet he is not! Pathetic for sure. But comrade concha knows no low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: concha is in his lie bot phase. Just reflexively repeating his toady talking points as if they haven't been addressed the debunked. The guy literally confronted NATO members face-to-face and in correspondence over it. Anyone can google it. There's like, video and shit... 🤪 But Andy isn't the liar. 🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, concha said: So now we have two anonymous sources through Buzzfeed. This keeps getting more pathetic for you, concha. Stop being lapdog for once in your life. Trump Says He Would Consider Recognizing Crimea As Part Of Russia The Republican candidate for U.S. president, Donald Trump, has said that, if elected, he would consider recognizing Russia’s annexation of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula. "I'm going to take a look at it," Trump said in an interview broadcast on July 31 on the U.S. television program This Week. "But you know, the people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were. And you have to look at that, also." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, concha said: The guy literally confronted NATO members face-to-face and in correspondence over it. I've already agreed to your interpretation of Trump's actions. They are irrelevant. You will never leave this point because you're drowning on the actual subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Trump Won’t Follow Congressional Directives on Russia and Crimea President Donald Trump objects to an effort by Congress to prevent his administration from recognizing Crimea as part of Russia. “My Administration will treat these provisions consistent with the President’s exclusive constitutional authorities as Commander in Chief and as the sole representative of the Nation in foreign affairs, including the authorities to determine the terms upon which recognition is given to foreign sovereigns, to receive foreign representatives, and to conduct the Nation’s diplomacy,” Trump said in the signing statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 concha will never address any of this and will assume that buzzfeed's two sources are lying or untrustworthy. Except that they aren't the only sources. And even if they were their reports are perfectly in-line with everything else we know. A common sense test that concha fails every single time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 12 minutes ago, concha said: It's "Watch Andy Make Shit Up and Pass It Off as Fact" Day. Again. What's consistently apparent in concha's toadyism is how he never actually denies any of the claims made against Trump. That's because even he knows that they're true and are reported as such. He just prefers to play dumb so he can continue to suck Trump's dick free of charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 19 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: So when concha employs his pitiful and facile defense of "well, Putin didn't actually get anything!" he's being purposefully obtuse because his toady status demands it. Putin got the friendliest possible President that Russia could eve hope to have. He also, tangibly, got: 1) A weakening of the NATO alliance from within [NATO actually accelerated military spending after Trump confronted them. Andy lying. AGAIN.] 2) A recognition of Crimea as a part of Russia. [A Buzzfeed rumor now counts as actually-happened-policy. Andy absolutely flailing with lies here.] 3) An internal promise for the US to leave NATO if Trump was reelected [Promise to whom? That which never actually happened.] concha acts like this is nothing and that unless Trump gives Putin 100% of what he wanted than a puppet he is not! Pathetic for sure. But comrade concha knows no low. So, having easily dismissed that bullshit, maybe Andy can invent an actual treaty? An actual official policy declaration? Some actual tangible weakening in NATO instead of the increased spending that ACTUALLY OCCURRED, instead of perceptions of hurt feelings? Ukraine NOT getting weapons? Evidence of Trump HELPING to secure gas deals for Russia? Andy talks lots of shit. It's an all-you-can-choke-on buffet if dishonesty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: I've already agreed to your interpretation of Trump's actions. They are irrelevant. Permit me to translate Andy into English: "I can't argue that you're right, so I'll dismiss the point because it's inconvenient to my bullshit narrative". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: This keeps getting more pathetic for you, concha. Stop being lapdog for once in your life. Trump Says He Would Consider Recognizing Crimea As Part Of Russia The Republican candidate for U.S. president, Donald Trump, has said that, if elected, he would consider recognizing Russia’s annexation of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula. "I'm going to take a look at it," Trump said in an interview broadcast on July 31 on the U.S. television program This Week. "But you know, the people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were. And you have to look at that, also." Not seeing where Trump says "Crimea is part of Russia". Anyone notice how Trump will say he's going to look into something and Andy just claims he actually did it, declared it and made it official policy? It's pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, concha said: [NATO actually accelerated military spending after Trump confronted them. Andy lying. AGAIN.] Again, concha keeps going to this well because he knows he's cooked otherwise. You're the only person talking about NATO spending. Nobody else cares or has made that an issue. Trump doesn't care about NATO. Full stop. He wants the US to exit. So any point you make about spending is completely irrelevent. Trump cares about NATO spending like a landlord cares about rent payments coming in: he wants his money until the day comes that he can leave them high and dry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, concha said: [A Buzzfeed rumor now counts as actually-happened-policy. Andy absolutely flailing with lies here.] As predicted, concha will stick to "buzzfeed anonymous sources aren't legit!" when I've already posted two other links. 👇 18 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: This keeps getting more pathetic for you, concha. Stop being lapdog for once in your life. Trump Says He Would Consider Recognizing Crimea As Part Of Russia The Republican candidate for U.S. president, Donald Trump, has said that, if elected, he would consider recognizing Russia’s annexation of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula. "I'm going to take a look at it," Trump said in an interview broadcast on July 31 on the U.S. television program This Week. "But you know, the people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were. And you have to look at that, also." 15 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Trump Won’t Follow Congressional Directives on Russia and Crimea President Donald Trump objects to an effort by Congress to prevent his administration from recognizing Crimea as part of Russia. “My Administration will treat these provisions consistent with the President’s exclusive constitutional authorities as Commander in Chief and as the sole representative of the Nation in foreign affairs, including the authorities to determine the terms upon which recognition is given to foreign sovereigns, to receive foreign representatives, and to conduct the Nation’s diplomacy,” Trump said in the signing statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, concha said: [Promise to whom? That which never actually happened.] 😄 His cabinet. Esper is on the record as saying as much. He was fired days after the election. concha back to one of his other pathetic moves: asking rhetorical questions. I literally can't believe that this clown is going to the "it never happened!" defense. Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, concha said: So, having easily dismissed that bullshit, Where? 😄 You're stumbling around to save face on a minor talking point that is irrelevant to what I'm saying. This must be toady performance art from concha. He's so pathetic that it's starting to embarrass me for even witnessing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, concha said: Permit me to translate Andy into English: No need to translate. It's clear what I said. You're desperately sticking to this irrelevant point like you do on al the other ones where you get obliterated in plain sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, concha said: Not seeing where Trump says "Crimea is part of Russia" 😄 What a toady. This corroborates the buzzfeed reporting and is quintessential Trump. It's exactly how he'd explain a decision that he had already come to internally. "But you know, the people of Crimea, from what I've heard, would rather be with Russia than where they were. And you have to look at that, also." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: As predicted, concha will stick to "buzzfeed anonymous sources aren't legit!" when I've already posted two other links. 👇 Andy apparently did not read this part. Just because Andy doesn't apparently realize this, let me point out that the Secretary of State reports directly to the president: Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in a formal declaration issued last month that the United States continued to recognize Crimea as part of Ukraine. “As we did in the Welles Declaration in 1940, the United States reaffirms as policy its refusal to recognize the Kremlin’s claims of sovereignty over territory seized by force in contravention of international law,” Pompeo said in his July 25 statement. “In concert with allies, partners, and the international community, the United States rejects Russia’s attempted annexation of Crimea and pledges to maintain this policy until Ukraine’s territorial integrity is restored.” 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, concha said: Anyone notice how Trump will say he's going to look into something and Andy just claims he actually did it, declared it and made it official policy? Buzzfeed cites two diplomats who claimed that he did just that, verbally, in a meeting. Then we have two separate sources quoting Trump basically saying, yeah, I heard that the people of Crimea would rather be with Russia. Chef's kiss Trumpism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, concha said: Andy apparently did not read this part. Wrong. I said the United States does not officially recognize Crimea as part of Russia. But Trump does. 38 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: A friendly reminder. The United States does not officially recognize Crimea as part of Russia. But Donald Trump does. Another quintessential Trumpism. Have the diplomats say the right thing and then have Trump undermine it publicly and in private. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, Atticus Finch said: Buzzfeed cites two diplomats who claimed that he did just that, verbally, in a meeting. Then we have two separate sources quoting Trump basically saying, yeah, I heard that the people of Crimea would rather be with Russia. Chef's kiss Trumpism. 1) As most of the people living in Crimea are ethnic Russians (overwhelmingly, in fact), is Trump's observation wrong? 🤡 2)Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said in a formal declaration issued last month that the United States continued to recognize Crimea as part of Ukraine. “As we did in the Welles Declaration in 1940, the United States reaffirms as policy its refusal to recognize the Kremlin’s claims of sovereignty over territory seized by force in contravention of international law,” Pompeo said in his July 25 statement. “In concert with allies, partners, and the international community, the United States rejects Russia’s attempted annexation of Crimea and pledges to maintain this policy until Ukraine’s territorial integrity is restored.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, concha said: 1) As most of the people living in Crimea are ethnic Russians (overwhelmingly, in fact), is Trump's observation wrong? 😄 You can't make this stuff up. The toady playbook. 1) It's a lie! 2) OK, it's not a lie but he didn't say the literal words! 3) OK, he did say it but it's true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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