Warrior Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: But just looking at the thread title tells it all... Somehow Putin invading Ukraine is Bidens fault... Yall have some of the craziest world views...  a Duck is a Duck. A goose is a goose And a Pig is a Pig... But not in Trumpland... Where a Duck is a threat to america A goose is a illegal Immigrant And a pig is a terrorist...   When you shut down American energy and Green Light Russian energy production you embolden Putin and strengthen his position in the region. Adding Biden's total weakness in Afghanistan and stating no military action before anything takes place in Ukraine doesn't deter anything. Biden is following the same playbook with the same cabinet as Obama and is expecting a different result. Weakness doesn't work. And I'm not talking about military - I'm talking about strengthen US energy production and limiting Russia and be a leader and bring the region together through strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: This doesn't even make any sense. Trump admiring and praising Putin and wanting to be like him is only patently obvious. It's not denied by even the biggest toadies on Earth like concha. Yet somehow him stating that is... "from CNN" and "makes people support Trump" Basically it's a perfectly incoherent right-wing loon claim. Â Do you even understand basic negotiation tactics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, FreeBird said: FAKE NEWWSSSSS was the election stolen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Warrior said: When you shut down American energy This did not happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Warrior said: Adding Biden's total weakness in Afghanistan and stating no military action before anything takes place in Ukraine doesn't deter anything. Putin knows about the American public being against the deployment of troops. Much like the American withdrawal being bipartisan, so is the refusal to commit troops. This is just more incoherent nonsense from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: This did not happen. Â You lie for no reason -Â https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/work-keystone-xl-pipeline-suspended-ahead-biden-action-75371464 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, Warrior said: Adding Biden's total weakness in Afghanistan and stating no military action before anything takes place in Ukraine doesn't deter anything. 👇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: Putin knows about the American public being against the deployment of troops. Much like the American withdrawal being bipartisan, so is the refusal to commit troops. This is just more incoherent nonsense from you.  The art of war young son - leave every option on the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Warrior said: You lie for no reason The Keystone XL Pipeline never existed and therefore never pumped a single ounce of oil. What's more is that the oil it would've pumped is not American. Claiming that Biden shut down American energy is the actual lie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, Warrior said: The art of war young son - leave every option on the table. The troop option? 👇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Warrior said:  The art of war young son - leave every option on the table. This is the kind of ignorant lunacy that clowns like you bathe in. You have no intention of ever sending troops but you think that pretending that you will somehow would change the outcome? Putin knew that no American troops would be deployed to stop him. He knows that Biden would get trashed no matter what and that after the Afghanistan war that Americans would oppose it. So pretending would not do anything, moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Warrior decries weakness. So we should send troops? Warrior: not at all. So what is considered *not* weak? Warrior: The Keystone XL Pipeline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: I agree with most pundits who say that this is the beginning of the end for him. It seems that he even offered a truce today after entering Kiev. It's bonkers. He seems to know that a protracted insurgency will bleed them dry of both lives and treasure. The Norwegians seized a Russian oligarchs yacht yesterday in Oslo. We need more of that. Coordinated efforts to freeze or seize every Russian asset outside their borders. Spot on.  There’s more to being a leader than pumping up the military and $ gas pipelines revenue.  https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1571735/vladimir-putin-eu-russia-gas-ukraine-war-gazprom   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Warrior said: Â You lie for no reason -Â https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/work-keystone-xl-pipeline-suspended-ahead-biden-action-75371464 this is what the article says.. "The project is meant to expand critical oil exports for Canada",:....Keystone is all about Canada getting their oil to the Gulf of Mexico...none of the oil is for us...the right has a big misconception about Keystone and that oil being for us...it's not...it's for Canada to make $$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted February 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, DBP66 said: was the election stolen? Yes by the Venezuela Socialists 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 @Atticus Finchyou want to see bonkers?!  Hitler and the Japanese (no clue if USA too… would be interested to learn) used forms of crystal meth to keep their soldiers/fighter pilots/etc alert and in a state of some sort of mood beneficial to be a stronger disposable hero (Metallica song reference).  Hitler initially was a health freak, but things changed dramatically through the years.  WTF is Putin feeding these young men?    Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, DBP66 said: this is what the article says.. "The project is meant to expand critical oil exports for Canada",:....Keystone is all about Canada getting their oil to the Gulf of Mexico...none of the oil is for us...the right has a big misconception about Keystone and that oil being for us...it's not...it's for Canada to make $$. The stupidity of these people is immense. The same people wanting us to shutdown Russian oil exports are the same ones who will turn around and blame Biden for the high gas prices. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, FreeBird said: Yes by the Venezuela Socialists so who's the "fake news"?..Trump and "the election was stolen" gang....or CNN/MSM who says Biden won fair and square. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, DBP66 said: so who's the "fake news"?..Trump and "the election was stolen" gang....or CNN/MSM who says Biden won fair and square. Even Slotback Right would be embarrassed by FreeBird's Venezuela claim. And that's saying a lot since Slotback Right is a certifiable moron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: Even Slotback Right would be embarrassed by FreeBird's Venezuela claim. And that's saying a lot since Slotback Right is a certifiable moron. I assume he was joking??!....I HOPE he wasn't serious!...but you may be right!...how f*in SAD! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, DBP66 said: I assume he was joking??!.... No. Jokes are dead with this group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, Atticus Finch said: No. Jokes are dead with this group. Venezuela??..that's a new one for me...I like the one Mark Meadows came up with...Italian Intell. agencies used satellites to change the voting machine counts!!...crazy shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 50 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said:  concha is the dumbest person I've ever encountered when it comes to tying his ideological hackery to actual outcomes.   🤡 From the guy who is proven to use "that which did not happen" as his basis for argumentation. The likes of Goebbels would have loved Andy. Repeat lies... repeatedly... and accuse your enemies of that which you are actually guilty.  Andy: Trump would have left NATO! And he weakened it!!!! 🤡 Reality: Never happened. Couldn't have happened even if Andy's fantasy were true due to Congress. NATO actually significantly INCREASED military spending after Trump confronted them.  Andy: Trump really, officially proclaimed Crimea as part of Russia because he pointed out that most Crimeans are ethnic Russians! 🤪 Reality: Trump's observation was accurate and the Trump administration's policy (Officially announced! "Reality"!) was - and I quote - "... the United States rejects Russia’s attempted annexation of Crimea and pledges to maintain this policy until Ukraine’s territorial integrity is restored."  Andy = BUFFOON  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 42 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: Spot on.  There’s more to being a leader than pumping up the military and $ gas pipelines revenue.  https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1571735/vladimir-putin-eu-russia-gas-ukraine-war-gazprom   So where are you on Russian gas? Trump warned the world about the stupidity of our Western European allies becoming dependent on Russian oil & gas. He wanted them to buy from America. Who's the Putin puppet?  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57180674 Nord Stream 2: Biden waives US sanctions on Russian pipeline Published 20 May 2021  The Biden administration has waived sanctions on a company building a controversial gas pipeline between Russia and Germany. The US also lifted sanctions on the executive - an ally of Russia's Vladimir Putin - who leads the firm behind the Nord Stream 2 project... ...Yuriy Vitrenko, the chief executive of Ukraine's state-owned energy company, Naftogaz, said Kyiv would press Washington to impose sanctions to stop the pipeline. Mr Vitrenko said Nord Stream was Russia's most "dangerous geopolitical project". Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman Bob Menendez. The New Jersey Democrat said in a statement: "I urge the administration to rip off the Band-Aid, lift these waivers and move forward with the congressionally mandated sanctions." He added that he failed to see "how today's decision will advance US efforts to counter Russian aggression in Europe". ... Michael McCaul, the top-ranking House Republican on foreign affairs, said: "If the Putin regime is allowed to finish this pipeline, it will be because the Biden Administration chose to let it happen." He added: "It is a Russian malign influence project that threatens to deepen Europe's energy dependence on Moscow, render Ukraine more vulnerable to Russian aggression and provide billions of dollars to Putin's coffers." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Anybody think this whole thing is a dress rehearsal? Â Kind of like Hitler in Spain. Â Putin getting to try out new toys, work the kinks out. Russian military capability may be better than people thought. Military aid to Ukraine appears to have been pissed away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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