Bormio Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Putin planning for conventional war. No one is nuking anyone over the Baltic states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, concha said: So where are you on Russian gas? Trump warned the world about the stupidity of our Western European allies becoming dependent on Russian oil & gas. He wanted them to buy from America. Who's the Putin puppet? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57180674 Nord Stream 2: Biden waives US sanctions on Russian pipeline Published 20 May 2021 The Biden administration has waived sanctions on a company building a controversial gas pipeline between Russia and Germany. The US also lifted sanctions on the executive - an ally of Russia's Vladimir Putin - who leads the firm behind the Nord Stream 2 project... ...Yuriy Vitrenko, the chief executive of Ukraine's state-owned energy company, Naftogaz, said Kyiv would press Washington to impose sanctions to stop the pipeline. Mr Vitrenko said Nord Stream was Russia's most "dangerous geopolitical project". Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman Bob Menendez. The New Jersey Democrat said in a statement: "I urge the administration to rip off the Band-Aid, lift these waivers and move forward with the congressionally mandated sanctions." He added that he failed to see "how today's decision will advance US efforts to counter Russian aggression in Europe". ... Michael McCaul, the top-ranking House Republican on foreign affairs, said: "If the Putin regime is allowed to finish this pipeline, it will be because the Biden Administration chose to let it happen." He added: "It is a Russian malign influence project that threatens to deepen Europe's energy dependence on Moscow, render Ukraine more vulnerable to Russian aggression and provide billions of dollars to Putin's coffers." https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/23/politics/white-house-russia-sanctions/index.html I’m with Biden and his/our allies. I like seeing Presidential acts. I don’t like seeing twisted egoist leading nowhere visits to feed off a narcisssitic Adderall addiction. Leave them for one of the best NBA rebounders of all-time (by height likely #1) to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said: This is the kind of ignorant lunacy that clowns like you bathe in. You have no intention of ever sending troops but you think that pretending that you will somehow would change the outcome? Putin knew that no American troops would be deployed to stop him. He knows that Biden would get trashed no matter what and that after the Afghanistan war that Americans would oppose it. So pretending would not do anything, moron. Negotiate from a position of strength - or do what Joe does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, concha said: So where are you on Russian gas? Trump warned the world about the stupidity of our Western European allies becoming dependent on Russian oil & gas. He wanted them to buy from America. Who's the Putin puppet? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57180674 Nord Stream 2: Biden waives US sanctions on Russian pipeline Published 20 May 2021 The Biden administration has waived sanctions on a company building a controversial gas pipeline between Russia and Germany. The US also lifted sanctions on the executive - an ally of Russia's Vladimir Putin - who leads the firm behind the Nord Stream 2 project... ...Yuriy Vitrenko, the chief executive of Ukraine's state-owned energy company, Naftogaz, said Kyiv would press Washington to impose sanctions to stop the pipeline. Mr Vitrenko said Nord Stream was Russia's most "dangerous geopolitical project". Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman Bob Menendez. The New Jersey Democrat said in a statement: "I urge the administration to rip off the Band-Aid, lift these waivers and move forward with the congressionally mandated sanctions." He added that he failed to see "how today's decision will advance US efforts to counter Russian aggression in Europe". ... Michael McCaul, the top-ranking House Republican on foreign affairs, said: "If the Putin regime is allowed to finish this pipeline, it will be because the Biden Administration chose to let it happen." He added: "It is a Russian malign influence project that threatens to deepen Europe's energy dependence on Moscow, render Ukraine more vulnerable to Russian aggression and provide billions of dollars to Putin's coffers." Weakness - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 If Russia does business with China, and no one anywhere is going to sanction China - tell me how sanctions are going to do squat. Except for taking away Chelsea FC from that Russian guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Warrior said: Negotiate from a position of strength - or do what Joe does. Word salad or non-action. "Negotiating from position of strength" is today's "lead in the region." Completely meaningless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 38 minutes ago, concha said: So where are you on Russian gas? Trump warned the world about the stupidity of our Western European allies becoming dependent on Russian oil & gas. He wanted them to buy from America. Who's the Putin puppet? Trump did nothing to stop it and neither did Biden. Probably because Germany wanted it. This, as usual, does nothing to address Trump being a puppet. Your delusions on this are comical. Trump *also* doesn't care about Russian influence. He cares about selling his product. If he cared about Russian influence he wouldn't have praised Putin every chance he got (including *yesterday*). Just like NATO, he's a landlord/druglord who wants to get his cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Bormio said: If Russia does business with China, and no one anywhere is going to sanction China - tell me how sanctions are going to do squat. Except for taking away Chelsea FC from that Russian guy. You might want to ask concha. He seems to love sanctions when Trump does them (tough!) but not when anybody else does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/23/politics/white-house-russia-sanctions/index.html I’m with Biden and his/our allies. I like seeing Presidential acts. I don’t like seeing twisted egoist leading nowhere visits to feed off a narcisssitic Adderall addiction. Leave them for one of the best NBA rebounders of all-time (by height likely #1) to do. You're with Joey Applesauce, the senile children's hair sniffing Putin enabler. The guy who looked to enrich Russia. At least you're honest. Under Trump: Weapons for Ukraine Stop Russian natural gas Sanctions before trouble starts NATO get your shit together Under your hero: Blankets Let Russia get billions in new natural gas sales Sanctions after the fact Don't hurt any European's feelings Cool. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, Warrior said: Negotiate from a position of strength - or do what Joe does. These people are idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, Warrior said: Weakness - 90% of the pipeline was built when Trump was President. He didn't absolutely nothing to stop it yet you wait until 2022 to complain about it. This is what I mean about you guys being the worst in proving causality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, concha said: Stop Russian natural gas 😄 When did this happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Trump did nothing to stop it and neither did Biden. Probably because Germany wanted it. This, as usual, does nothing to address Trump being a puppet. Your delusions on this are comical. Trump *also* doesn't care about Russian influence. He cares about selling his product. If he cared about Russian influence he wouldn't have praised Putin every chance he got (including *yesterday*). Just like NATO, he's a landlord/druglord who wants to get his cut. Under Trump there was at least a political push and sanctions. Under Joey Applesauce? "Drop the sanctions. Move ahead". If you actually look int all this, what ACTUALLY HAS HAPPENED is the opposite of the shit you try to peddle. Truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, concha said: Sanctions before trouble starts I love how concha jumps back and forth. One day he cares about results, the next he doesn't. Those sanctions really worked wonders. Not quite as effective as Trump's overwhelming love and flattery but great nonetheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, concha said: Under Trump there was at least a political push and sanctions. You claimed he stopped Russian natural gas. 👇 5 minutes ago, concha said: Stop Russian natural gas 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, concha said: Under Joey Applesauce? "Drop the sanctions. Move ahead". The pipeline was already practically finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, Atticus Finch said: 😄 When did this happen? That was Trump's position. Easily documentable. Actual sanctions happened. Is that more or less adversarial to Putin than what we've gotten from Joey Applesauce? 🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, concha said: what ACTUALLY HAS HAPPENED You literally just lied and claimed that Trump stopped Russian natural gas. 👇 6 minutes ago, concha said: Stop Russian natural gas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: 90% of the pipeline was built when Trump was President. He didn't absolutely nothing to stop it yet you wait until 2022 to complain about it. This is what I mean about you guys being the worst in proving causality. It's more than a little inconvenient when you compare Trump's actual stances and actions to those of Obama and Joey A. The real puppets are easy to identify. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57180674 Nord Stream 2: Biden waives US sanctions on Russian pipeline Published 20 May 2021 The Biden administration has waived sanctions on a company building a controversial gas pipeline between Russia and Germany. The US also lifted sanctions on the executive - an ally of Russia's Vladimir Putin - who leads the firm behind the Nord Stream 2 project... ...Yuriy Vitrenko, the chief executive of Ukraine's state-owned energy company, Naftogaz, said Kyiv would press Washington to impose sanctions to stop the pipeline. Mr Vitrenko said Nord Stream was Russia's most "dangerous geopolitical project". Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman Bob Menendez. The New Jersey Democrat said in a statement: "I urge the administration to rip off the Band-Aid, lift these waivers and move forward with the congressionally mandated sanctions." He added that he failed to see "how today's decision will advance US efforts to counter Russian aggression in Europe". ... Michael McCaul, the top-ranking House Republican on foreign affairs, said: "If the Putin regime is allowed to finish this pipeline, it will be because the Biden Administration chose to let it happen." He added: "It is a Russian malign influence project that threatens to deepen Europe's energy dependence on Moscow, render Ukraine more vulnerable to Russian aggression and provide billions of dollars to Putin's coffers." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, concha said: That was Trump's position. My God. The whoppers that this guy tries to peddle. Trump's position is to leave NATO. concha's response? "Nah uh, he did do it!" Trump's position is to stop Russian natural gas (which is everybody's position) and concha declares that it *was* done. Unbelievable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, concha said: It's more than a little inconvenient when you compare Trump's actual stances and actions Trump's actual action was to do nothing to stop the pipeline. I love concha's craven dishonesty. Trump wants to do something but is stopped by voters: "He didn't do it!" Trump wants to do something but just does nothing: "He WANTED to do it so therefore he *did* it!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: You literally just lied and claimed that Trump stopped Russian natural gas. 👇 We've discovered part of the problem. Andy needs to get Hooked on Phonics. "Stop", as in that was his position that he pushed with Western Europe. NOT "stopped", as in "he got the idiot Western Europeans to not expose themselves to Russian gas dependency and enrich Putin". Moron. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: My God. The whoppers that this guy tries to peddle. Trump's position is to leave NATO. concha's response? "Nah uh, he did do it!" Trump's position is to stop Russian natural gas (which is everybody's position) and concha declares that it *was* done. Unbelievable. That was never an official position of Trump and never happened. Hey everybody? Did we leave NATO? Ever? Jesus, man. Your lying and stupidity are off the charts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, concha said: "Stop", as in that was his position that he pushed with Western Europe. The problem, concha, is that you're a craven liar. You claim that Trump wanting to leave NATO doesn't matter because he didn't do it. But now when Trump says he wanted to stop Russian natural gas, but didn't, it means that he *actually* did it. I think you might be just mentally ill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 9 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: 90% of the pipeline was built when Trump was President. He didn't absolutely nothing to stop it yet you wait until 2022 to complain about it. This is what I mean about you guys being the worst in proving causality. You must've missed Trump's undressing of Germany for signing on with Russia for energy - carry on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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