Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, concha said: That was never an official position of Trump and never happened. He told his cabinet he was going to do it in his second term that he never got. You are squirming and twisting yourself into a pretzel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, Warrior said: You must've missed Trump's undressing of Germany for signing on with Russia for energy - carry on. Oh no! Trump talked across a table at someone! What will we do now?! I love how these stooges talk about action and being tough guys but they can only point to rhetoric and words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Word salad or non-action. "Negotiating from position of strength" is today's "lead in the region." Completely meaningless. To you because you have Zero idea of what your are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, concha said: Did we leave NATO? Ever? No, because your hero lost. You didn't get what you wanted. This is so dishonest that even dishonest people are ashamed to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, concha said: Jesus, man. Your lying and stupidity are off the charts. You have literally been caught in another concha pretzel of lies. If Trump says something then he *did* it. Except leaving NATO. Him not doing it means everything! (even though he lost the election and that's the only reason we're still in NATO). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, Atticus Finch said: Oh no! Trump talked across a table at someone! What will we do now?! I love how these stooges talk about action and being tough guys but they can only point to rhetoric and words. And this administration when faced with their biggest decision does nothing to prevent or even slow energy production from Russia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Warrior said: To you because you have Zero idea of what your are talking about. Employing word salads is proof of not knowing a subject. A turd on a high school message board claiming that he would've faked out Putin is indeed hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Warrior said: When you shut down American energy and Green Light Russian energy production you embolden Putin and strengthen his position in the region. Adding Biden's total weakness in Afghanistan and stating no military action before anything takes place in Ukraine doesn't deter anything. Biden is following the same playbook with the same cabinet as Obama and is expecting a different result. Weakness doesn't work. And I'm not talking about military - I'm talking about strengthen US energy production and limiting Russia and be a leader and bring the region together through strength. Gonna go on a limb here and guess youre talking about Keystone and Nord Stream.... 1 which wouldve done next to nothing for us outside of temporary construction jobs.... And the other which has nothing to do with the USA and everything to do with Russia and Germany... In which Germany just halted it due to Putins dumbassery.... But please do go on with how Biden caused WW3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, Warrior said: And this administration when faced with their biggest decision does nothing to prevent or even slow energy production from Russia. Germany has rescinded the pipeline license. What more should we do, Mr. foreign policy expert? Donald Trump did *literally* nothing to stop the pipeline. But his toadies are here in 2022 yelling at us about how tough he was about it. Comical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Gonna go on a limb here and guess youre talking about Keystone and Nord Stream.... 1 which wouldve done next to nothing for us outside of temporary construction jobs.... And the other which has nothing to do with the USA and everything to do with Russia and Germany... In which Germany just halted it due to Putins dumbassery.... But please do go on with how Biden caused WW3 He lied about both. He's an idiot. Donald Trump does nothing to stop a foreign pipeline = "he was so tough man!" Joe Biden does nothing to stop a foreign pipeline = "so weak" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 concha walking into rakes. It's a new tradition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 The lies and distortions are just extraordinary. Andy had hugely successful shame and honesty by-pass surgeries. Trump NEVER declared the Crimea to be Russian territory. He pointed out that mostly Russians lived there. His OFFICAL POLICY was that the Crimea is part of the Ukraine! Trump questioned NATO. He NEVER made it an official stance or policy. Trump's efforts INCREASED military spending by our allies. Trump very publicly pushed to END the Nord Stream pipeline and sell AMERICAN natural gas. Sanctions were imposed to impede pipeline progress. Under BIDEN, sanctions were lifted ("Capitulation"). But Andy will continue to lie about all of the above documentable facts... He follows the Goebbels School of debate. Lie. Lie some more. Repeat the lies endlessly. Claim the other guy is doing what he is, in fact, guilty of. Andy's debate idol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, Atticus Finch said: He lied about both. He's an idiot. Donald Trump does nothing to stop a foreign pipeline = "he was so tough man!" Joe Biden does nothing to stop a foreign pipeline = "so weak" Like i said before most of these people arent republicans... Theyre Trump loyalist... Its sad that the once proud party became a playground for conmen and loons... Dont like the truth? Just ignore it or make up something else.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Dont like the truth? Just ignore it or make up something else.... concha, Bormio, Warrior, etc. All they do is make stuff up. concha has been producing whoppers for years. Dude lies as a matter of nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Me: Trump said he would leave NATO after reelection. concha: Never happened! Me: Yeah, because he lost. But he wanted to do it. concha: Nah, uh! 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: Like i said before most of these people arent republicans... Theyre Trump loyalist... Its sad that the once proud party became a playground for conmen and loons... Dont like the truth? Just ignore it or make up something else.... Just so you realize your hypocrisy: Trump at least attempted to push for anti-Russian and pro-American policies and actions. Here's the guy you like. the truth you purport to care about but your TDS won't let you process and be honest about: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57180674 Nord Stream 2: Biden waives US sanctions on Russian pipeline Published 20 May 2021 The Biden administration has waived sanctions on a company building a controversial gas pipeline between Russia and Germany. The US also lifted sanctions on the executive - an ally of Russia's Vladimir Putin - who leads the firm behind the Nord Stream 2 project... ...Yuriy Vitrenko, the chief executive of Ukraine's state-owned energy company, Naftogaz, said Kyiv would press Washington to impose sanctions to stop the pipeline. Mr Vitrenko said Nord Stream was Russia's most "dangerous geopolitical project". Senate Foreign Relations Committee chairman Bob Menendez. The New Jersey Democrat said in a statement: "I urge the administration to rip off the Band-Aid, lift these waivers and move forward with the congressionally mandated sanctions." He added that he failed to see "how today's decision will advance US efforts to counter Russian aggression in Europe". ... Michael McCaul, the top-ranking House Republican on foreign affairs, said: "If the Putin regime is allowed to finish this pipeline, it will be because the Biden Administration chose to let it happen." He added: "It is a Russian malign influence project that threatens to deepen Europe's energy dependence on Moscow, render Ukraine more vulnerable to Russian aggression and provide billions of dollars to Putin's coffers." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Me: Trump didn't do anything to stop the Nord Stream 2. concha: But he said he wanted to! So it happened! Me: No, it didn't. concha: It was his policy position. So it *did* happen! 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, Atticus Finch said: Me: Trump said he would leave NATO after reelection. concha: Never happened! Me: Yeah, because he lost. But he wanted to do it. concha: Nah, uh! 😄 Andy arguing that which did not happen. Again. It's astounding. And he thinks it's a winning strategy. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warrior Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Understanding the enemy and their goals is key - Biden doesn't have a clue and has said so as recent as his press conference yesterday - which was a PR disaster. He has played from behind in regard to both Russia and China, that is my point. But you schleps can't see the forest through the trees - Confusion is a sign of intelligence, only fools are crystal clear. And Finch and the crew are crystal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, concha said: Trump at least attempted to push for anti-Russian and pro-American policies and actions. concha has found his next string to clutch to. Unfortunately for him, he has already lied about it and claimed that Trump *did* stop Russian natural gas. 👇 28 minutes ago, concha said: Stop Russian natural gas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 26 minutes ago, concha said: You're with Joey Applesauce, the senile children's hair sniffing Putin enabler. The guy who looked to enrich Russia. At least you're honest. Under Trump: Weapons for Ukraine Stop Russian natural gas Sanctions before trouble starts NATO get your shit together Under your hero: Blankets Let Russia get billions in new natural gas sales Sanctions after the fact Don't hurt any European's feelings Cool. 👍 You and @Atticus Finchshould setup threads similar to the old Crossfire shows with Kinsley and Sununu (spellings may be off on both). Daily M-F debates. New subject format, but if entertaining and needs another day stay with it. Why ruin the schtick on a handful. Have some fun with it. Let’s be creative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: Me: Trump didn't do anything to stop the Nord Stream 2. [Wrong. A lie. He did actually try. Publicly. Documentable truth.] concha: But he said he wanted to! So it happened! [Obviously another Andy lie.] Me: No, it didn't. concha: It was his policy position. So it *did* happen! [Obviously another Andy lie.] 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: concha has found his next string to clutch to. Unfortunately for him, he has already lied about it and claimed that Trump *did* stop Russian natural gas. 👇 As already pointed out, this is another Andy lie attempting to cover for his poor reading comprehension skills. Andy doesn't understand the difference between "stop" and "stopped". Or he's knowingly just lying. AGAIN. He's either an idiot or a liar or both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 16 minutes ago, concha said: Andy arguing that which did not happen. The literal receipts in *this* thread. Trump saying he was going to leave NATO if reelected. 👇 On 2/24/2022 at 12:51 PM, Atticus Finch said: Trump Discussed Pulling U.S. From NATO, Aides Say Amid New Concerns Over Russia There are few things that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia desires more than the weakening of NATO, the military alliance among the United States, Europe and Canada that has deterred Soviet and Russian aggression for 70 years. Last year, President Trump suggested a move tantamount to destroying NATO: the withdrawal of the United States. concha saying it didn't happen. 👇 On 2/24/2022 at 1:20 PM, concha said: 1) He didn't. concha's response when I said he didn't because he didn't win reelection. 👇 23 hours ago, concha said: So it never happened. Point by point. Exactly what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 20 minutes ago, Warrior said: Understanding the enemy and their goals is key - Biden doesn't have a clue and has said so as recent as his press conference yesterday - which was a PR disaster. He has played from behind in regard to both Russia and China, that is my point. But you schleps can't see the forest through the trees - Confusion is a sign of intelligence, only fools are crystal clear. And Finch and the crew are crystal. Complete word salad. Nothing but posturing. You have no cited a single actual idea or plan that would've led to a different outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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