Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 But Trump wants to strengthen NATO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 15 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Worked? Is that what it's called? 😄 If by "worked" you mean he couldn't believe how lucky he was to get such a puppet in the American Presidency then, yes, worked. LOL...Ironmam doesn't have a clue!...😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just now, DBP66 said: LOL...Ironmam doesn't have a clue!...😉 The Obama/Biden Administrations have been astronomically more adversarial to Putin than Trump was. The idea that "worked" with Putin is being used as a credit to Trump is conical. He was basically enacting Putin's wish list. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 8 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Bormio: No American troops! Also, Bormio: The harshest sanctions ever are weak! What an unserious country! The fact that Dr. Quack is talking about something being unserious is rich. Whose power and human treasure will be called on to defend the Baltic states if Putin goes after them? Don’t look to Berlin or even Paris. We will, and it is in our interest to make sure it does not happen. Relying on sanctions for that is fool’s gold. The Russians have to understand there is no military price they might not pay if they attempt that. Right now, Putin does not believe that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Bormio said: The Left thinks American power is inherently evil. Now they reap the consequences speak softly...and carry a big stick.....the strong don't need to show their strength..😉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bormio said: Whose power and human treasure will be called on to defend the Baltic states if Putin goes after them? Don’t look to Berlin or even Paris. We will, and it is in our interest to make sure it does not happen. Relying on sanctions for that is fool’s gold. The Russians have to understand there is no military price they might not pay if they attempt that. Right now, Putin does not believe that. So we should send troops? 👇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBP66 Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: The Obama/Biden Administrations have been astronomically more adversarial to Putin than Trump was. The idea that "worked" with Putin is being used as a credit to Trump is conical. He was basically enacting Putin's wish list. and who could forget the famous Helsinki speech?...I guess that what Ironmam means by "working" with Putin...😪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 Bormio employs the perfectly incoherent "strength through *no* troops but weakness through sanctions!" position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, DBP66 said: and who could forget the famous Helsinki speech?...I guess that what Ironmam means by "working" with Putin...😪 But, you see, since Trump didn't *actually* leave NATO then he was in *no* way a Putin puppet! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: So we should send troops? 👇 Ukraine is gone. The past is past. But we have a treaty commitment to defend the Baltic states, and unless we project real strength, our commitment is going to be tested. And honoring that commitment may be politically a lot harder than people think now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I AM IRONMAN Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, DBP66 said: walk softly...carry a big stick.....the strong don't need to show their strength..😉 In between free crack pipe handouts and a nap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Bormio said: NATO is now unserious because the Europeans are not serious. They farmed out their security to the US and washed their hands of it. The Europeans could not handle Bosnia, let alone the Ukraine or Russia NATO is great. Trump is the asshole for confronting NATO partners when they don't bother to fund a national military that could stop even a rogue girl scout troop. Perfectly fine for Americans to bleed alone instead to keep these noble allies safe. And if you disagree, then you're a Putin puppet. Just ask Andy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, Bormio said: Ukraine is gone. The past is past. This thread is about Ukraine and, I guess, how Joe Biden allowed it to happen by being weak. I know that you want to quickly wave off your laughably stupid and obviously incoherent claims. But you either want strength through military action or not. Somehow you instead want to dance around trying to have it both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, concha said: NATO is great. Not according to Donald Trump. This reminds me of one of the myriad other instances where concha went berserk trying to worship Trump and be reasonable at the same time. He tried to claim that *legal* immigration was great but that illegal immigration was the problem. I notified him that this wasn't the position of the Trump Administration. He went berserk. Same here. He will try to keep worshiping Trump while trying to moderate his position. But that's not gonna fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, concha said: Trump is the asshole for confronting NATO partners when they don't bother to fund a national military that could stop even a rogue girl scout troop. Not at all. He just doesn't care about NATO and would've left if he won reelection. Yet concha will pretend that Trump is a serious person who cares about international coalitions. concha has never been a serious person himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 47 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: The Obama/Biden Administrations have been astronomically more adversarial to Putin than Trump was. The idea that "worked" with Putin is being used as a credit to Trump is conical. He was basically enacting Putin's wish list. 🤣 🤡 Even Andy isn't stupid enough to TRULY believe that tripe. Unless you remove pushing to strengthen NATO, sending arms to the Ukraine, working against Russia-Western Europe gas deals, increasing sanctions on Russia... When it comes to pushing the dumbass leftist talking points on this, Andy is... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, concha said: Even Andy isn't stupid enough to TRLY believe that tripe. Practically every living breathing person walking this Earth not just believes it but knows it. The only holdout seems to be comrade concha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, concha said: Unless you remove pushing to strengthen NATO, concha is in his lie bot phase. Just reflexively repeating his toady talking points as if they haven't been addressed the debunked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Not according to Donald Trump. [And if you expect defense partners to actually be able to well, you know... defend, then Trump is right. ] This reminds me of one of the myriad other instances where concha went berserk trying to worship Trump and be reasonable at the same time. [Andy making shit up time. Again.] He tried to claim that *legal* immigration was great but that illegal immigration was the problem. I notified him that this wasn't the position of the Trump Administration. He went berserk. [Andy making shit up time. Again.] Same here. He will try to keep worshiping Trump while trying to moderate his position. But that's not gonna fly. As asked above, go on the record, Andy. I've shown you the state of the German military as as an example. Is that acceptable for a partner with an economy that large who Americans are supposed to die for if asked? Nut up, what's your answer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 A friendly reminder. The United States does not officially recognize Crimea as part of Russia. But Donald Trump does. Putin’s Useful Idiots Trump’s statements about Ukraine are as confusing as ever, at least if you try to read them for anything other than improvisatory self-aggrandizement. Trump’s Ukraine policy was all over the place: He sent weapons to Ukraine, something that the Obama administration had refused to do. He also accepted Putin’s seizure of Crimea, and he infamously tried to withhold aid from the Ukrainian government in exchange for help in the presidential election, leading to his first impeachment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Not at all. He just doesn't care about NATO and would've left if he won reelection. Yet concha will pretend that Trump is a serious person who cares about international coalitions. concha has never been a serious person himself. Andy arguing that which never occurred as fact. 🤡 Shocker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, concha said: [And if you expect defense partners to actually be able to well, you know... defend, then Trump is right. ] But that's not what it was about. Again, concha will desperately try to avoid addressing this issue. He will instead keep pounding this one narrow talking point that has already been debunked. He's a pathetic toady for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeBird Posted February 25, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 13 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: This thread is about Ukraine and, I guess, how Joe Biden allowed it to happen by being weak. I know that you want to quickly wave off your laughably stupid and obviously incoherent claims. But you either want strength through military action or not. Somehow you instead want to dance around trying to have it both ways. The thread is about Sleepy Joe can’t even get his son to stop smoking crack , how the fuck is supposed to handle Putin and other world leaders is he’s a Shit Father,, guy is a human punching bag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 minute ago, concha said: Andy arguing that which never occurred as fact. This is getting more pathetic for concha than usual. I've said on countless occasions that Trump would've left NATO if he had won reelection. This is not disputed by anyone, even concha. Instead he just claims that Trump didn't do it, so there! Yes, he didn't win reelection. We stopped him. We stopped concha from getting his wish. concha has retreated from any reasonable position so quickly that this is the best he can muster. A groveling response from comrade toady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted February 25, 2022 Report Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Practically every living breathing person walking this Earth not just believes it but knows it. The only holdout seems to be comrade concha. It's "Watch Andy Make Shit Up and Pass It Off as Fact" Day. Again. We've seen Andy's list of evidence. Nothing real. Nothing tangible. Nobody shocked. Meanwhile Putin is raping the Ukraine and guess who's president? Andy's tough-on-Putin hero. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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