Pops Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 Just now, Goldmember said: They were winning 21-17 in the 4th quarter. What you're saying is that a team with running clocks in all of their wins and who was winning 3/4 through their one loss can't possibly be ranked in the top 5. This is simple human frailty. You just have some irrational mental block. Somehow you argue out of one side of your mouth that 2015 De La Salle "obliterated" their schedule (even though they only had 11 running clocks in 13 wins) and was the best team yet you don't see any way that 2018 STA could be in the top 5. I look at final scores not scores at end of Q3 Did or did not STA lose by 16 to a 3-loss team? btw, what's the running clock margin in FL? A couple of your W's are < 35. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 17 minutes ago, Pops said: SJB, MD, IMG, Carol City, SJC, CC -- 6 1-loss teams w/ a better loss and more quality wins CQ, DLS -- undefeated with superior SOS Colerain, Archbishop Hoban -- 2 OH undefeateds w comparable SOS Northshore, Allen, Duncanville, Longview...... debatable, but here's 4 TX undefeateds that all have top 250 wins and are on How does Carol City have a better loss? They lost by two scores and never led at any point. You have got to drop this W and L obsession. It makes you look even more silly than we all know that you are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 21 minutes ago, Pops said: I think part of the disconnect is your lack of weight to Wins and Losses Because there are far more accurate indicators of ability than Ws and Ls. Especially if you're going to obsess over a single one of either. You can continue to obsess over them but you'll continue to be wrong all the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, Pops said: it's not all about yards from scrimmage and time of possession. I don't use either of those. You're silly, Pops. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 23 minutes ago, Pops said: There is an object to the game and a starting and finishing point. If we judged teams based on the "object of the game" then North Little Rock and Valor Christian would be ranked ahead of Mater Dei and St. John Bosco. But at least some people realize that Ws and Ls aren't the best indicators of ability. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: And not because Milton beat them but damn give Cardinal Gibbons some love...they just beat AHP by 28 points and are gonna coast into the FL 5A Finals. American Heritage is not that good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted November 25, 2018 Report Share Posted November 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Pops said: Are they? Yes, if they were undefeated then they might be #1 right now. They're not even in the top 10 in some polls. Hence, they're being ranked on what they've done and not on "roster" and "potential" right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 32 minutes ago, Pops said: I know I didn't phrase my first post on topic in form of question, but I was clearly seeking feedback from @Sammyswordsman as to his logic to include STA on same tier as SJB, MD, and IMG right now The logic is very simple. Those are the only other teams that have two running clocks against top 100 opponents. And they all have one loss. It seems to me that it would only be your personal bias that kept STA out of that company 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 32 minutes ago, Pops said: I expressed my logic above Cherry-picked and illogical, sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 33 minutes ago, Pops said: I wouldn't have said anything were they on the same tier as DLS, which has no losses, the top win, and twice as many top 250 wins. But your criteria are silly and don't prove ability level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 35 minutes ago, Pops said: To me, the potential answers "they have a better roster" or "MC was really an aberration" or "they've just destroyed everyone else" -- just seems like a big pass to me based on name and I don't see an integrity issue But you're a terrible evaluator and a known homer. They've played 13 games, Pops. They have 12 running clocks and one loss where they were winning in the 4th quarter. It's not questionable that they are in somebody's tier 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 35 minutes ago, Pops said: Sounds like Folsom Why isn't Folsom in Tier 1? Good question. And not one for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 33 minutes ago, Pops said: I look at final scores not scores at end of Q3 Which is why you are really bad at all of this stuff. It's why you constantly get things wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 34 minutes ago, Pops said: Did or did not STA lose by 16 to a 3-loss team? The worst part is that you are purposefully getting stuff wrong because you wouldn't like the result otherwise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 35 minutes ago, Pops said: btw, what's the running clock margin in FL? A couple of your W's are < 35. It's 35. They were up 35-0 on Piper and 38-0 on Deerfield Beach. Both scored late touchdowns against the backups. In fact I think it was the Piper game where they scored on literally the last play as time expired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 Chief Running Clock...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 39 minutes ago, Goldmember said: But your criteria are silly and don't prove ability level. Criteria are silly? Geez did you even pass at STA or did you go sleep with someone high up at the school to get the diploma It's amazing how someone who claims to know everything can't even get simple grammer correct 40 minutes ago, Goldmember said: But your criteria is silly and don't prove ability level. FIFY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Goldmember said: American Heritage is not that good. Of course because to you every team sucks Dumbass troll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Goldmember said: you don't see any way that 2018 STA could be in the top 5. Bc they aren't See anyone can play that game boyscout, they aren't top 5 because I said so I put as much argument to prove it as you do on every post, difference is you are pathetic and obsolete You hold no credibility anymore LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nptb17 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Of course because to you every team sucks Dumbass troll I need to talk to you for a sec. We have some college football to discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, nptb17 said: I need to talk to you for a sec. We have some college football to discuss. Yeah we do, got a side project that you might be able to help me with that I'll have for off-season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coletrain06 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 41 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Criteria are silly? Geez did you even pass at STA or did you go sleep with someone high up at the school to get the diploma It's amazing how someone who claims to know everything can't even get simple grammer correct FIFY Criteria is a plural, thus "are" is correct. If you consider criteria as a collective noun, "is" can also be used. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StingMan44 Posted November 26, 2018 Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 49 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Criteria are silly? Geez did you even pass at STA or did you go sleep with someone high up at the school to get the diploma It's amazing how someone who claims to know everything can't even get simple grammer correct FIFY Actually “criteria” is a plural, therefore “are” is correct. Nice try though!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 6 hours ago, badrouter said: Columbia still in Tier 4, despite the playoff loss to a team that turned around and got blown out the next week. LOL. Troll, or are you just not paying attention? Columbia is on the correct Tier. I would also add Lee, Edgewater, and Hagarty to that Tier. Columbia split with Lee. Lee lost to Edgewater. Edgewater lost to Hagarty, and Hagerty lost to Lee. A vicious circle. Lakeland is border line Tier 4 but will stay in Tier 5 due to SOS until we see how then do next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted November 26, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2018 2 hours ago, ECHS05 said: Your tiers suck sammy. Milton & Rome Tier 3. That is all. And not because Milton beat them but damn give Cardinal Gibbons some love...they just beat AHP by 28 points and are gonna coast into the FL 5A Finals. Milton moved to Tier 4 same as Lowndes. I don't see the argument for placing the both of them in Tier 3 with the likes of Folsom and the Ohio big boys. Also placed CG in Tier 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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