What up Texas?

[DevilDog]

3 hours ago, Horsefly said:

I'm not making a claim Duncanville district is good, they are BOTH bad.  All these scores show that. 

That SOC team is state ranked and undefeated. It was a 10-7 loss.

let me show you how weak allen's opponents are this year.

skyline 47 Sam Houston 7

sam Houston 13 lewisville 14

lewisville 13 COPPELL 6

there is no propping up of Allen's district nor their entire schedule.  It's pretty weak. Their schedule is not exponentially better than Duncanville. IMO skyline and Pearce would both be playoff contenders in Allen's district.  

 

We will all know soon over the next several weeks.  Tx HS playoffs.  Both are good and boths district suck.  Would be interesting to see these district a meet in the playoffs.

I favor Allen over Dville.  I don't know how their 42 players are any different when Allen is rolling in new lineman every other snap.  Anyone can lose at anytime.  This Allen team is very good.  The QB has improved from his play last year.  Dville gets to the ball in a hickup. If it comes to bear I will be there.

 

 

[Horsefly]

1 minute ago, DevilDog said:

We will all know soon over the next several weeks.  Tx HS playoffs.  Both are good and boths district suck.  Would be interesting to see these district a meet in the playoffs.

I favor Allen over Dville.  I don't know how their 42 players are any different when Allen is rolling in new lineman every other snap.  Anyone can lose at anytime.  This Allen team is very good.  The QB has improved from his play last year.  Dville gets to the ball in a hickup. If it comes to bear I will be there.

 

 

It could be a good match up if duncanville can get out to an early lead, but first they’ll have to get past SLC and or trinity in region 1 and maybe a haltom team playing out of their mind. Playoffs can’t get here soon enough.  Hoping a lot of these games will be at Jerry’s world.

[Cracker]

3 hours ago, Horsefly said:

It could be a good match up if duncanville can get out to an early lead, but first they’ll have to get past SLC and or trinity in region 1 and maybe a haltom team playing out of their mind. Playoffs can’t get here soon enough.  Hoping a lot of these games will be at Jerry’s world.

I'd rather they not be.

[Horsefly]

9 minutes ago, Cracker said:

I'd rather they not be.

I only prefer Jerry’s place so I don’t have to deal with the elements.  Why don’t you want them there? 

[Cracker]

3 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

I only prefer Jerry’s place so I don’t have to deal with the elements.  Why don’t you want them there? 

I think it takes away from the experience. I want to be outdoors in the cold weather.  Obnoxious music, parking fees, and outrageous snack prices also make it something I don't care for.

[DevilDog]

On 10/30/2018 at 3:09 PM, Horsefly said:

I only prefer Jerry’s place so I don’t have to deal with the elements.  Why don’t you want them there? 

Plus you get multiple ones at one Time and place and yes the comfort of the Death Star.

[FloTex]

22 hours ago, RedZone said:

Newton was 8-5 in 2015.

They have lost 3 and 4 games several times in the Maxpreps era playing one of the worst schedules in TX High School football...

http://www.maxpreps.com/high-schools/newton-eagles-(newton,tx)/football/previous_seasons.htm

 

Yeah, that was the year Coach Johnston nearly passed away and there was lots of distraction around the team.  These current seniors were freshman and they were extremely young.

Newton is a school with less than 350 kids... they ain’t nationally elite, I recognize that, but they are a great high school football team for a school that size.   I think that’s where people lose perspective.

Watch them in December in the title game and you’ll see what east Texas has known for a long time.

[RedZone]

31 minutes ago, FloTex said:

Yeah, that was the year Coach Johnston nearly passed away and there was lots of distraction around the team.  These current seniors were freshman and they were extremely young.

Newton is a school with less than 350 kids... they ain’t nationally elite, I recognize that, but they are a great high school football team for a school that size.   I think that’s where people lose perspective.

Watch them in December in the title game and you’ll see what east Texas has known for a long time.

I'm not a Newton hater. I've seen video of them. They are ok, at least this year.

These teams do their best work when they have the studs though.

Name ONE team that Newton has played this year that has half the talent as Newton?

[Guest]

AT&T probably isn't hosting playoff games this year. Not until semis/state.

Death Star in Frisco is going to be booked like hell this year.

[FloTex]

4 hours ago, RedZone said:

I'm not a Newton hater. I've seen video of them. They are ok, at least this year.

These teams do their best work when they have the studs though.

Name ONE team that Newton has played this year that has half the talent as Newton?

None..  but 3 teams that they beat were supposed to be good, and have flopped.  Gilmer, WOS and Silsbee are all double the size of Newton.  Which makes beating them for a school the size of Newton, pretty good.

298 kids in Newton isn’t the same as 298 kids at John Curtis, Bishop Dunne, or any other private.  I doubt you’ve ever been to Newton, TX, or Newton County, there ain’t much there.  But what is there is part of what makes them what they are.

Logging woods, the oilfield, and farms.  Makes tough ass country boys for sure.  The demographics there don’t hurt either.

[Champa]

One thing I'll say for Silsbee. They have a freshman QB this year that's "supposed" to be something special. That and they're getting some Beaumont United kids to flock over. They could actually be a good team in the near future.

[FloTex]

1 hour ago, Champa said:

One thing I'll say for Silsbee. They have a freshman QB this year that's "supposed" to be something special. That and they're getting some Beaumont United kids to flock over. They could actually be a good team in the near future.

Something is missing in Silsbee.  They have the same type of kids as Jasper, Newton, or WOS, but not the success.  

I guess it comes down to coaching, culture, and community expectations.

[Frosty4024]

4 hours ago, FloTex said:

None..  but 3 teams that they beat were supposed to be good, and have flopped.  Gilmer, WOS and Silsbee are all double the size of Newton.  Which makes beating them for a school the size of Newton, pretty good.

298 kids in Newton isn’t the same as 298 kids at John Curtis, Bishop Dunne, or any other private.  I doubt you’ve ever been to Newton, TX, or Newton County, there ain’t much there.  But what is there is part of what makes them what they are.

Logging woods, the oilfield, and farms.  Makes tough ass country boys for sure.  The demographics there don’t hurt either.

I wouldn't technically say Gilmer "flopped."

I mean...They lost to 3 defending State Champs.  How many Texas schools can say that?

And who knew Paris undisciplied asses would be as good as they are???  They pushed Argyle to the brink despite 7 turnovers lol.

The Pittsburg loss is alarming though.

I wouldn't want to see them (or WOS) come playoff time...Even though this is a down year for those 2.

[Champa]

3 hours ago, FloTex said:

Something is missing in Silsbee.  They have the same type of kids as Jasper, Newton, or WOS, but not the success.  

I guess it comes down to coaching, culture, and community expectations.

Some of it is coaching. When I was in school we had the most boring offense ever. I think we ran three plays on offense, with 90 percent of them being the option play.

Silsbee is also more of a basketball town than those other three schools. More is expected of them in that department. Even the upcoming QB loves him some basketball. Used to have some good wars with P.A. Lincoln back in the day, although they came out on top more often than not.

[DevilDog]

WINNING STREAKS

CONSECUTIVE WINS

34 -- Carthage (4A), 2016-18
24 -- Allen (6A), 2017-18
23 -- Newton (3A), 2017-18

UNDEFEATED SCHOOLS

CLASS 6A (15)
  3.  Haltom 8-0
  4.  Arlington 8-0, Arlington Lamar 8-0
  5.  Southlake Carroll 8-0    
  8.  Duncanville 7-0
  9.  Allen 8-0
11.  Longview 8-0
12.  Temple 8-0    
13.  Leander Vandegrift 8-0
14.  Cypress Ranch 8-0
21.  GP North Shore 8-0
23.  Pearland 8-0
26.  Converse Judson 7-0, 
28.  SA Northeast O’Connor 8-0
31.  Edinburg Vela 8-0

CLASS 5A-I (6)
  4.  Birdville 8-0, Denton Ryan 8-0
  6.  Highland Park 8-0
10.  Alvin Shadow Creek 8-0
11.  Hutto 7-0
15.  C.C. Veterans Memorial 8-0

CLASS 5A-II (6)
  3.  Lubbock Cooper 8-0
  5.  Aledo 8-0
  6.  South Oak Cliff 7-0
  7.  Frisco Reedy 9-0
11.  Fort Bend Marshall 8-0
12.  Nederland 8-0

CLASS 4A-I (5)
  6.  Benbrook 8-0
  7.  Argyle 8-0
10.  Carthage 8-0
13.  Sealy 8-0
15.  LaVernia 8-0

CLASS 4A-II (1)
  9.  Jasper 8-0

CLASS 3A-I (4)
  2.  Shallowater 8-0
  7.  Jefferson 8-0
11.  Diboll 8-0
12.  Woodville 8-0

CLASS 3A-II (7)
  4.  Cisco 7-0
  5.  Gunter 9-0
  7.  Buffalo 8-0, Edgewood 7-0
  8.  Clifton 9-0
12.  Newton 7-0
16.  Odem 8-0

CLASS 2A-I (5)

  2.  New Deal 7-0
  5.  Celeste 9-0
  7.  San Saba 8-0
10.  Carlisle 8-0
14.  Mason 8-0

CLASS 2A-II (6)

  1.  Iraan 8-0
  2.  Sudan 8-0
  5.  Wellington 8-0
  7.  Hamlin 8-0
15.  Falls City 8-0
16.  Woodsboro 8-0

[DevilDog]

RANKINGS

 The rankings are based mainly on strength of schedule and the highest playoff potential for each team.  There will be schools listed with one or two defeats ahead of a multitude of undefeated outfits and our ratings are not preferenced by location of teams   Class 6A is the lone classification that still determines playoff divisions by enrollment numbers.  The two teams in each district with the largest enrollment figures will play in Division I and the other two clubs go into Division II playoffs. 

CLASS 6A-I 

  1.  ALLEN         
  2. GP NORTH SHORE      
  3.  CONVERSE JUDSON
  4.  KATY                       
  5.  LAKE TRAVIS                                         
  6.  DUNCANVILLE                                                     
  7.  SOUTHLAKE CARROLL                 
  8.  HALTOM
  9.  CYPRESS FALLS      
10.  EULESS TRINITY 

CLASS 6A-II

  1.  CYPRESS RANCH
  2.  LONGVIEW
  3.  AUSTIN WESTLAKE
  4.  LEANDER VANDEGRIFT
  5.  CEDAR HILL
  6.  TEMPLE
  7.  JERSEY VILLAGE
  8.  KLEIN COLLINS
  9.  HOUSTON STRAKE JESUIT
10.  HEWITT MIDWAY

CLASS 5A-I 

  1. HIGHLAND PARK       
  2.  DENTON RYAN       
  3.  LUFKIN          
  4.  HUTTO    
  5.  ALVIN SHADOW CREEK         
 6.  COLLEGE STATION                                      
  7.  CONVERSE WAGNER 
  8.  THE COLONY
  9.  FRISCO LONE STAR
10.  MESQUITE POTEET  

CLASS 5A-II

  1.  ALEDO
  2.  FRISCO REEDY
  3.  FORT BEND MARSHALL
  4.  LUBBOCK COOPER
  5.  HUNTSVILLE
  6.  MANVEL
  7.  PORT NECHES-GROVES
  8.  NEDERLAND
  9.  SOUTH OAK CLIFF
10. A&M CONSOLIDATED

CLASS 4A-I 

  1.  CARTHAGE        
  2.  ARGYLE         
  3.  LA VEGA        
  4.  LIBERTY HILL       
  5.  SEALY        
  6.  MIDLOTHIAN HERITAGE        
  7.  PARIS            
  8.  SPRINGTOWN 
  9.  BOERNE
10.  LA VERNIA

CLASS 4A-II

  1.  PLEASANT GROVE
  2.  JASPER
  3.  CUERO
  4.  GERONIMO NAVARRO
  5.  LORENA
  6.  GLEN ROSE
  7.  GIDDINGS
  8.  SWEENY
  9.  WEST ORANGE-STARK
10.  GRAHAM

CLASS 3A-I 

  1.  YOAKUM        
  2.  CAMERON YOE      
  3.  JEFFERSON            
  4.  GLADEWATER      
  5.  BROCK
  6.  WOODVILLE        
  7.  EDNA       
  8.  FRANKLIN         
  9.  DIBOLL
10.  SHALLOWATER 

CLASS 3A-II

  1.  NEWTON
  2.  GUNTER
  3.  CISCO
  4.  CANADIAN
  5.  HOLLIDAY
  6.  CHILDRESS
  7.  EAST BERNARD
  8.  WASKOM
  9.  CLIFTON
10.  ABERNATHY
     
CLASS 2A-I 

  1.  MASON
  2.  SHINER
  3.  PRICE CARLISLE
  4.  REFUGIO
  5.  GARRISON
  6.  NEW DEAL
  7.  STAMFORD
  8.  CELESTE
  9.  TENAHA
10.  SAN SABA

CLASS 2A-II

  1.  MART
  2.  WELLINGTON
  3.  MUENSTER
  4.  FALLS CITY
  5.  HAMLIN
  6.  IRAAN
  7.  GRUVER
  8.  WOODSBORO
  9.  GRAPELAND
10.  SUDAN

[DevilDog]

KEY GAMES THIS WEEK

 6-6A:  Flower Mound (6-2, 5-0) at Coppell (6-2, 4-1)
  9-6A:  Prosper (7-1, 4-1) at Allen (8-0, 5-0)
12-6A:  Hewitt Midway (6-1, 6-0) at Temple (8-0, 6-0)
15-6A:  Klein Collins (8-1, 6-1) at The Woodlands (6-2, 6-0)
25-6A:  Lake Travis (6-1, 5-1) at Buda Hays (7-1, 5-1)  
28-6A:  SA Northeast O'Connor (8-0, 7-0) at SA Northeast Brennan (6-2, 6-1)

  4-5A-I:  Denton Ryan (8-0, 5-0) at Grapevine (7-1, 4-1)
  6-5A-I: Lancaster (5-2, 5-0) at Highland Park (8-0, 5-0)
  7-5A-I:  Tyler (5-2, 4-0) at Mesquite Poteet (7-1, 4-0)
12-5A-I:  Converse Wagner (8-1, 7-0) at SA Veterans Memorial (6-2, 6-0)

  6-5A-II:  South Oak Cliff (7-0, 5-0) at Dallas Kimball (7-1, 4-1)
  9-5A-II:  Whitehouse (6-2, 4-1) at Marshall (6-2, 5-0)
11-5A-II:  Manvel (6-2, 5-1) at FB Willowridge (6-2, 5-1)
12-5A-II:  Port Neches-Groves (6-2, 5-0) at Barbers Hill (6-2, 4-1)
13-5A-II:  Brenham (5-3, 4-1) at Leander Glenn (5-3, 4-1)
14-5A-II:  Alamo Heights (6-2, 4-1) at Medina Valley (7-1, 5-0)

  4-4A-I:  WF Hirschi (6-2, 2-1) at Springtown (7-1, 3-0)
  6-4A-I:  Kennedale (7-2, 5-0) at Benbrook (8-0, 4-0)
  7-4A-I:  Alvarado (4-4-, 4-0) at Wilmer-Hutchins (7-1, 4-0)
10-4A-I:  Carthage (8-0, 3-0) at Henderson (6-2, 3-0)
11-4A-I:  Splendora (7-1, 3-0) at Lumberton (5-3, 3-0)
15-4A-I:  LaVernia (8-0, 2-0) at Boerne (7-1, 2-0)

13-4A-II:  Geronimo Navarro (6-1, 3-0) at Cuero (7-1, 3-0)

  4-3A-I:  Boyd (6-2, 4-0) at Brock (7-1, 4-0)
  9-3A-I:  Whitney (5-3, 3-1) at Grandview (6-2, 3-1)
11-3A-I:  Franklin (6-1, 4-0) at Diboll (8-0, 4-0)
13-3A-I:  Altair Rice (7-1, 3-0) at Columbus (5-3, 3-0)
14-3A-I:  Goliad (7-1, 3-0) at Edna (7-1, 2-1)

  4-3A-II:  Anson (4-4, 4-1) at Cisco (7-0, 5-0)
  5-3A-II:  Henrietta (5-4, 4-1) at Gunter (8-0, 4-0)
  7-3A-II:  Buffalo (8-0, 5-0) at Edgewood (7-0, 5-0)
12-3A-II:  Newton (7-0, 3-0) at Corrigan-Camden (7-1, 3-0)
13-3A-II:  Blanco (6-2, 3-0) at Ingram Moore (7-1, 3-0)

  1-2A-I:  West Texas High (6-2, 3-0) at Panhandle (6-2, 3-0)
  5-2A-I:  Celeste (9-0, 3-0) at Collinsville (6-1, 2-0)

 1-2A-II:  McCamey (5-3, 1-0) at Iraan (8-0, 1-0)
10-2A-II:  Simms Bowie (5-3, 3-0) at Clarksville (4-4, 3-0)
16-2A-II:  LaVilla (5-3, 3-0) at Woodsboro (8-0, 3-0)  

[Texasball]

On 10/27/2018 at 12:23 PM, Horsefly said:

Calpreps dropped Allen in the rankings this morning bc East lost last night.  (East dropped in their rankings dragging Allen with them.  Unfortunately they were Allen's highest ranked team played) 

That only happens because the rankings are bogus.  The truth is Utah East would struggle to be top 4 in Allen’s district.

[Texasball]

On 10/30/2018 at 8:09 AM, Horsefly said:

I'm not making a claim Duncanville district is good, they are BOTH bad.  All these scores show that. 

That SOC team is state ranked and undefeated. It was a 10-7 loss.

let me show you how weak allen's opponents are this year.

skyline 47 Sam Houston 7

sam Houston 13 lewisville 14

lewisville 13 COPPELL 6

there is no propping up of Allen's district nor their entire schedule.  It's pretty weak. Their schedule is not exponentially better than Duncanville. IMO skyline and Pearce would both be playoff contenders in Allen's district.  

 

At best they would contend for 4th place.  Skyline is horrible this year.  

[Frosty4024]

10 hours ago, Texasball said:

That only happens because the rankings are bogus.  The truth is Utah East would struggle to be top 4 in Allen’s district.

Just like Plano East at the moment eh...

I could see East finishing 4th and this isn't one of their better squads...

Allen's district ain't all that great...

[Cracker]

1 hour ago, Frosty4024 said:

Just like Plano East at the moment eh...

I could see East finishing 4th and this isn't one of their better squads...

Allen's district ain't all that great...

Who are we kidding? Allen's district freakin' sucks. It hasn't been competitive for years. Literally nearly a decade. I sure hope Prosper can muster a fight tomorrow. Most of the teams in district just fold after a couple of quarters. I give Jesuit props for fighting the entire game. Hope Prosper does the same. This Allen team is bored.

[Horsefly]

1 hour ago, Cracker said:

Who are we kidding? Allen's district freakin' sucks. It hasn't been competitive for years. Literally nearly a decade. I sure hope Prosper can muster a fight tomorrow. Most of the teams in district just fold after a couple of quarters. I give Jesuit props for fighting the entire game. Hope Prosper does the same. This Allen team is bored.

Allen owns the DFW.  They haven’t lost to a dub team in over 6 years.  They need to ramp up their scheduling with quality OOS teams. 

[FloTex]

51 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

Allen owns the DFW.  They haven’t lost to a dub team in over 6 years.  They need to ramp up their scheduling with quality OOS teams. 

Plenty of solid teams in Texas I’d like to see play Allen in an OOD contest before they play some IMG like JUCO school.

I wish we had more home and home games with DFW vs GHA schools.  Or even have Katy vs SLC and Allen vs GPNS at a neutral site.

[Cracker]

48 minutes ago, FloTex said:

Plenty of solid teams in Texas I’d like to see play Allen in an OOD contest before they play some IMG like JUCO school.

I wish we had more home and home games with DFW vs GHA schools.  Or even have Katy vs SLC and Allen vs GPNS at a neutral site.

A mixture of both would be preferable to me. 

[Cracker]

1 hour ago, Horsefly said:

Allen owns the DFW.  They haven’t lost to a dub team in over 6 years.  They need to ramp up their scheduling with quality OOS teams. 

True, but they have played some solid squads in pre-district games since then.