The Guru Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 minute ago, badrouter said: Indeed, I am laughing at every reply. 😂 indeed, you and Lakeland can only ever get ink off other people. Hence, when I get bored with this it will probably go away and you'll have to come up with another angle in which to get Lakeland attention. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted June 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, The Guru said: You must be joking? I refuted the very basis of your claim in my second post in this thread. You're being dishonest as usual. In that post, you say this: "This is obvious nonsense. They've played Louisville, Florida State (2x), USC, Wisconsin, West Virginia, Virginia Tech (2x), Michigan, Penn State (2x) and Clemson. Who else has played non-conference like this? And they committed to these kickoff classics and home-and-home games way ahead of time." My original post and argument-again- is that a) THIS year's Alabama optional schedule is weak, b) At the time the games were scheduled, Alabama was as certain as possible that each of those teams would be much weaker than their team, c) using the "reasoning" applied by many here to HS rankings, this approach to scheduling would render Alabama a ranking far outside of the top 25 and beneath a team like Stanford and, d) this is all really fucking stupid because we can analyze the talent projected to be on the field for them, factor in their long history of success against elite competition, and conclude that it doesn't mean shit that the non-conference schedule is weak. They would-and should- be a four-touchdown favorite against Stanford. There are A LOT of examples in HS where this poor reasoning has been used to justify teams being ranked above or below where knowledge of the team meshed with common sense tells us they should be ranked. That my team has been one such example a few times doesn't mean the entire thread was to be about them. The fact that Warren Central was ranked ahead of EVERY Florida team last year is a joke that all of the others can point out. J Serra got waxed repeatedly but remained ahead of most everyone in Florida simply for playing the games. The idea of strength of schedule mattering makes sense...to a point. But, we're at a weird point right now where a team could end up rated highly going 0-10 if all 10 teams were highly regarded, while another team could dominate everyone and end up rated poorly. Many are taking the (ultimately subjective) SOS thing WAY too far.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalven Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 USC will beat Bama under Urban in 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, badrouter said: My original post and argument-again- is that a) THIS year's Alabama optional schedule is weak Lakeland's schedule is always weak. Every year. By design. The premise of this thread is a lie. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, badrouter said: b) At the time the games were scheduled, Alabama was as certain as possible that each of those teams would be much weaker than their team Alabama can't schedule themselves so this is a stupid claim. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 8 minutes ago, badrouter said: c) using the "reasoning" applied by many here to HS rankings, this approach to scheduling would render Alabama a ranking far outside of the top 25 and beneath a team like Stanford and, Not true and even if it was, it's not applicable since, again, Alabama will play a tougher representative college schedule schedule than Lakeland will in high school. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, badrouter said: d) this is all really fucking stupid because we can analyze the talent projected to be on the field for them, factor in their long history of success against elite competition, and conclude that it doesn't mean shit that the non-conference schedule is weak. I agree. Everything that you post is fucking stupid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, badrouter said: d) this is all really fucking stupid because we can analyze the talent projected to be on the field for them, factor in their long history of success against elite competition, and conclude that it doesn't mean shit that the non-conference schedule is weak. Also, Lakeland is not that talented and has practically no recent history of success against elite teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, badrouter said: That my team has been one such example a few times doesn't mean the entire thread was to be about them. Again, you insult our intelligence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, badrouter said: The fact that Warren Central was ranked ahead of EVERY Florida team last year is a joke that all of the others can point out. Sure, but it has almost nothing to do with schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, badrouter said: Say and think what you will. Doesn't change the fact that they will almost certainly be among the top 3-4 teams in the country. Anyone who'd actually rank Stanford ahead or favor them over Alabama would be the ultimate tool. Going back to my statement: Am I lying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019  "This is obvious nonsense. They've played Louisville, Florida State (2x), USC, Wisconsin, West Virginia, Virginia Tech (2x), Michigan, Penn State (2x) and Clemson. Who else has played non-conference like this? And they committed to these kickoff classics and home-and-home games way ahead of time."   A 7-6 Clemson team who didn't have dabo running things as the head coach until almost halfway through the season  Funny how someone who claims to be this stud expert can't realize that Clemson in 2008 was nothing close to what they are now  In fact I doubt that would have even been considered a quality win back then as they finished .500 in the conference (4-4)   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 "Also, Lakeland is not that talented and has practically no recent history of success against elite teams."   Guess STA isn't elite after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, The Guru said: This is obvious nonsense. They've played Louisville, Florida State (2x), USC, Wisconsin, West Virginia, Virginia Tech (2x), Michigan, Penn State (2x) and Clemson. Who else has played non-conference like this? And they committed to these kickoff classics and home-and-home games way ahead of time. And yet none of those teams posed a legit threat to bama.....especially last year's louisville squad. Don't think that just because these are power 5 school that they're good. Bama does schedule "safely" tho....a little too safely when it comes to non-confernce games. And, Joel Klatt made a good point a year or two ago when he said this: "Bama is a geat team, but they will not travel West to a hostile to environment unless it's a neutral site game or for the CFB playoff." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, badrouter said: I don't think you have as clear a picture of my intentions as you think. Because you've done next to nothing to attack the actual argument. You just inserted one school into the mix that I had not mentioned. You must be Miami Hurricane fan.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 28 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: And yet none of those teams posed a legit threat to bama..... Which is a stupid standard since Alabama is the best program this century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: Don't think that just because these are power 5 school that they're good. I didn't do that. You made an inaccurate claim and I merely corrected you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 46 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: Going back to my statement: Am I lying? Yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: Bama does schedule "safely" tho....a little too safely when it comes to non-confernce games. Are you mentally ill? You'd be hard-pressed to find any program that has consistently scheduled as ambitiously as they have. The only knock of them is the lack of more home-and-home series. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted June 21, 2019 Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 31 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: And, Joel Klatt made a good point a year or two ago when he said this: "Bama is a geat team, but they will not travel West to a hostile to environment unless it's a neutral site game or for the CFB playoff." Which is the same for practically every ACC/SEC team. Your point is still spectacularly wrong which made me think, for a second, that there was an alternative universe where another school named Alabama existed. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted June 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2019 6 hours ago, HooverOutlaw said: You must be Miami Hurricane fan.  You must be Roy Moore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 20 hours ago, Kalven said: USC will beat Bama under Urban in 2020 USC doesn't have the brain power to hire Urban... Doubt he would go to USC anyway...  2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted June 22, 2019 Report Share Posted June 22, 2019 Georgias future OOC slate (just added the biggest name that wasnt GA Tech) ...  2019 - Notre Dame (Home, UGA played at ND in 2017) 2020 - Virginia (in Atlanta, GA) 2021 - San Jose St. & UAB (both Home) 2022 - Oregon (Home) 2023 - @ Oklahoma 2024 - Clemson (in Atlanta, GA) 2025 - @ UCLA 2026 - UCLA (Home) 2027 - @ Florida St. 2028 - @ Texas, Florida St. (Home) 2029 - Texas, @ Clemson (what?!) 2030 - Clemson (Home) 2031 - Oklahoma (Home) 2032 - Clemson (Home) 2033 - @ Clemson (Ill be 46 by this game... Time flies)  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalven Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 On ‎6‎/‎22‎/‎2019 at 6:31 AM, ECHS05 said: Georgias future OOC slate (just added the biggest name that wasnt GA Tech) ...  2019 - Notre Dame (Home, UGA played at ND in 2017) 2020 - Virginia (in Atlanta, GA) 2021 - San Jose St. & UAB (both Home) 2022 - Oregon (Home) 2023 - @ Oklahoma 2024 - Clemson (in Atlanta, GA) 2025 - @ UCLA 2026 - UCLA (Home) 2027 - @ Florida St. 2028 - @ Texas, Florida St. (Home) 2029 - Texas, @ Clemson (what?!) 2030 - Clemson (Home) 2031 - Oklahoma (Home) 2032 - Clemson (Home) 2033 - @ Clemson (Ill be 46 by this game... Time flies)  Kirby Smart won't be coaching against Oregon and so forth.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted June 26, 2019 Report Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Kalven said: Kirby Smart won't be coaching against Oregon and so forth.... Why not? You thinks he's going to Tuscaloosa? Possible, don't see it... him and wifey are Dawgs through and through. BGW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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