Keemd91 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 Another fact is that the cocoa team that beat BTW was not their best team in school history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 9 hours ago, Nolebull813 said: What did I down them about? They lost like 12 of last 14 oos games. That's a fact. There is no way to talk smack when your speaking facts. They win the majority of their games against average to bad competition. They do win some quality games but so does every other top 25 state team here and there. More facts. They won titles in 2A and 3A a decade ago!! Beating bad teams on a state level. That would hardly mold them into a powerhouse. They finally beat a bad Booker T after like losing to them 5 or 6 times in row. Where I come from that's what you call separating the contenders from the pretenders. It took the best team in the history of the program to eke out 1 title in a decade in the 5th biggest classification. Sorry the facts can't be alternative to fit your agenda Cocoa beat TCA, Booker T., & Bolles last year. BG NV 46, Cocoa 10 (5-8) St. Edward OH 24, Cocoa 14 (5-7) Cocoa 35, Western Branch VA 0 (5-6) Lou. Trinity KY 35, Cocoa 32 (4-6) Gonzaga DC 17, Cocoa 14 (4-5) Cocoa 24, Bergen Catholic NJ 14 (4-4) St. Joseph's Prep PA 16, Cocoa 7 (3-4) Skyline TX 36, Cocoa 20 (3-3) West Monroe LA 21, Cocoa 6 (3-2) Colerain OH 17, Cocoa 7 (3-1) Cocoa 24, Abilene TX 21 (3-0) Cocoa 14, Olive Branch MS 7 (2-0) Cocoa 43, Thomas Jefferson PA 7 (1-0) Cocoa Puffs iz 5-8 OOS since 2008... right on little buddies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, ECHS05 said: Cocoa beat TCA, Booker T., & Bolles last year. BG NV 46, Cocoa 10 (5-8) St. Edward OH 24, Cocoa 14 (5-7) Cocoa 35, Western Branch VA 0 (5-6) Lou. Trinity KY 35, Cocoa 32 (4-6) Gonzaga DC 17, Cocoa 14 (4-5) Cocoa 24, Bergen Catholic NJ 14 (4-4) St. Joseph's Prep PA 16, Cocoa 7 (3-4) Skyline TX 36, Cocoa 20 (3-3) West Monroe LA 21, Cocoa 6 (3-2) Colerain OH 17, Cocoa 7 (3-1) Cocoa 24, Abilene TX 21 (3-0) Cocoa 14, Olive Branch MS 7 (2-0) Cocoa 43, Thomas Jefferson PA 7 (1-0) Cocoa Puffs iz 5-8 OOS since 2008... right on little buddies. Lol at least they got the stones to play that many out of state teams Some in Florida stick to playing softies and pad record then get to state and get exposed *cough* Bolles *cough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 12 hours ago, Tiger2016 said: Slurpees are going to your head. Fact is Cocoa is 4A State Champ beating Booker T who beat the 7A State Champ (Aquinas) and 8A State Champ (Southridge), proving that 5th biggest classification does not necessarily mean 5th best. other fact is that they never won a State Title a decade ago, all 4 have come within the last 9 years smart guy....don't let the brain freeze mess up your thoughts. You do know that 2A and 3A in 08,09,10 is basically the same as 4A today....that was back when there was 1A,1B and 2A and 2B. You need to check your facts Your agenda has and always will be to down Florida teams that lose out of State. You think you are some kind of high school football match maker....no one cares about the games you (think) you put together. Accept at the end of the year St Thomas would have beaten Booker T and Cocoa by five touchdowns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 The only state champion that could have hung with Saint Thomas was probably Carol City. Only because of their defense. I don't think they would have scored on st. Thomas but they certainly would have limited sta to two touchdowns maybe three. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 4 hours ago, ECHS05 said: Cocoa beat TCA, Booker T., & Bolles last year. BG NV 46, Cocoa 10 (5-8) St. Edward OH 24, Cocoa 14 (5-7) Cocoa 35, Western Branch VA 0 (5-6) Lou. Trinity KY 35, Cocoa 32 (4-6) Gonzaga DC 17, Cocoa 14 (4-5) Cocoa 24, Bergen Catholic NJ 14 (4-4) St. Joseph's Prep PA 16, Cocoa 7 (3-4) Skyline TX 36, Cocoa 20 (3-3) West Monroe LA 21, Cocoa 6 (3-2) Colerain OH 17, Cocoa 7 (3-1) Cocoa 24, Abilene TX 21 (3-0) Cocoa 14, Olive Branch MS 7 (2-0) Cocoa 43, Thomas Jefferson PA 7 (1-0) Cocoa Puffs iz 5-8 OOS since 2008... right on little buddies. It's better than DLS since 2004, nolebull813, is worthless.....and boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 On April 11, 2017 at 4:48 PM, FootballGuy said: Gotta respect their heart. They beat Trinity Christian this year, right? And I heard Trinity Christian won state this year... And who did Cocoa play in the championship? I thought they blew em out Yeah beat Trinity Christian and Booker T Washington. They were better than usual last year IMO. Stronger up front than most other years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYHSFAN33 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 8 minutes ago, 181pl said: Accept at the end of the year St Thomas would have beaten Booker T and Cocoa by five touchdowns. Maybe, maybe not. But what actually DID happen was that BTW beat STA, and Cocoa beat BTW. Those things actually happened on the field, not in some poster's head. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 On April 11, 2017 at 8:54 PM, ECHS05 said: Tucker & Cocoa were similar, Tuckers got a lot of talent. I'm alright with this comparison. I'd say tucker is usually a bit big stronger up front, while Cocoa is normally a faster overall team. Would be a good matchup IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 3 minutes ago, NYHSFAN33 said: Maybe, maybe not. But what actually DID happen was that BTW beat STA, and Cocoa beat BTW. Those things actually happened on the field, not in some poster's head. Very True. Then again you could look at the Bishop Gorman matchups and go the other way. Cocoa is going to have a tough time against a team like STA, Gorman, dematha...teams that dominate in the trenches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 (14-1, #4 TX) Skyline TX 36, Cocoa 20 (3-3) (13-2, #1 La) West Monroe LA 21, Cocoa 6 (3-2) (10-2, #10 OH) Colerain OH 17, Cocoa 7 (3-1) All 3 of those games were vs ranked teams on the road.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keemd91 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 40 minutes ago, 954gator said: Very True. Then again you could look at the Bishop Gorman matchups and go the other way. Cocoa is going to have a tough time against a team like STA, Gorman, dematha...teams that dominate in the trenches. Cocoa did hold their own in the 1st half against BG. They were worn down and overmatched in the second. Cocoa actually got a jumpball catch that was ran in for a touchdown but the refs called that the receiver stepped out of bounds on his way to the endzone. If you saw the replay of that particular you would see that he indeed stayed inbounds. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, Keemd91 said: Cocoa did hold their own in the 1st half against BG. They were worn down and overmatched in the second. Cocoa actually got a jumpball catch that was ran in for a touchdown but the refs called that the receiver stepped out of bounds on his way to the endzone. If you saw the replay of that particular you would see that he indeed stayed inbounds. Agreed 100% the score didn't reflect the competition, and the game was closer for a lot of it, but Cocoa could t move the ball on the ground against them (not many really could). Forces them to really change it up, and they did have some big plays for tds, but against a team with size and depth it's hard for them to not wear down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 51 minutes ago, TheRealCAJ said: (14-1, #4 TX) Skyline TX 36, Cocoa 20 (3-3) (13-2, #1 La) West Monroe LA 21, Cocoa 6 (3-2) (10-2, #10 OH) Colerain OH 17, Cocoa 7 (3-1) All 3 of those games were vs ranked teams on the road.... (13-1) Booker T Washington (Miami) beat Cocoa that year in the Semifinals 20-14 in OT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keemd91 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, TheRealCAJ said: (13-1) Booker T Washington (Miami) beat Cocoa that year in the Semifinals 20-14 in OT. That game was a classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 Cocoa 24, Bergen Catholic NJ 14... the most important game on the slate. Cocoa saved Rivals hsfb forum from becoming BadaBingHSfootball.com 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted April 13, 2017 Report Share Posted April 13, 2017 7 hours ago, NYHSFAN33 said: Maybe, maybe not. But what actually DID happen was that BTW beat STA, and Cocoa beat BTW. Those things actually happened on the field, not in some poster's head. Which of course has ZERO value in real life. There is no competivie equivalence based on scores. Anybody who has watched enough sports knows this. It's all based on matchups. STA has more than 50 players with D1 offers on their roster. That is about twice the total number of players on Cocoa's squad. I have no doubt that Cocoa would keep it close for a quarter or two but the flood gates would eventually open. Cocoa's roster is not designed to compete with a team like STA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger2016 Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 3 hours ago, 181pl said: Which of course has ZERO value in real life. There is no competivie equivalence based on scores. Anybody who has watched enough sports knows this. It's all based on matchups. STA has more than 50 players with D1 offers on their roster. That is about twice the total number of players on Cocoa's squad. I have no doubt that Cocoa would keep it close for a quarter or two but the flood gates would eventually open. Cocoa's roster is not designed to compete with a team like STA. This is something that i can agree with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoe Boy Posted April 14, 2017 Report Share Posted April 14, 2017 On 4/13/2017 at 9:17 AM, 181pl said: The only state champion that could have hung with Saint Thomas was probably Carol City. Only because of their defense. I don't think they would have scored on st. Thomas but they certainly would have limited sta to two touchdowns maybe three. You still don't understand sfla football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prog8r Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 On 4/13/2017 at 4:28 PM, 181pl said: Which of course has ZERO value in real life. There is no competivie equivalence based on scores. Anybody who has watched enough sports knows this. It's all based on matchups. STA has more than 50 players with D1 offers on their roster. That is about twice the total number of players on Cocoa's squad. I have no doubt that Cocoa would keep it close for a quarter or two but the flood gates would eventually open. Cocoa's roster is not designed to compete with a team like STA. True, It was never more apparent than when they Played Colerain (Colerain had the biggest lines I have ever seen in HS that year for them) IMG... Team a giant ass man Childs all blue chips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 Cocoa backed out of an automatic win against Colquitt to play somebody better. That says a lot about them. Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger2016 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, Rufus69 said: Cocoa backed out of an automatic win against Colquitt to play somebody better. That says a lot about them. Rufus>> Maybe right.....but better bet is Rush decided to take on a 5-5 3A team with 25 players rather than face the defending 4A State Champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 27 minutes ago, Tiger2016 said: Maybe right.....but better bet is Rush decided to take on a 5-5 3A team with 25 players rather than face the defending 4A State Champions. But that also would be a lie.... He said that after their loss to Grayson they had a game scheduled with Cocoa... And now They dont.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 42 minutes ago, Tiger2016 said: Maybe right.....but better bet is Rush decided to take on a 5-5 3A team with 25 players rather than face the defending 4A State Champions. You REALLY don't know Rush....at all. Gospel.... Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger2016 Posted April 18, 2017 Report Share Posted April 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, Rufus69 said: You REALLY don't know Rush....at all. Gospel.... Rufus>> So Cocoa would play the 2 time National Champs Bishop Gorman at their place but would not travel to play a 3rd round GA playoff loser? Did Rush and Wilks ever discuss a game? If so, do you happen to know the specifics discussed? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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