concha Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, TheRealCAJ said: 1st Amendment is what you are sticking with in all that babble, I guess....not surprising. Good luck, dude. Maybe someone else will teach your children how to think for themselves and use their own eyes. Later.... No babble, Chip. You either support the right of freedom of expression or you don't. Interestingly, Hitler would agree with YOU about it. Muzzle those you don't like. Right, Herr Chip? It's amusing seeing someone like you - who is challenged to think at all - make such comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYHSFAN33 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, BigDrop said: In 20 years of posting on social media your's is the most disrespectful post I have read. You called me "a joke, dude." "only a true idiot..." I guess I can own that. I was fired up this morning for some other reasons and did not filter my post after getting even more fired up at reading your post. That's my fault and sorry for that. However do understand that is not even that bad. I am not sure where you're from, your age, etc. I am 34 from NY. if you spoke to most of my friends, that is not even approaching disrespectful in a casual conversation. It's mostly ball busting and jabs. When my wife (then girlfriend) first started dating me she was wondering what she got herself into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDrop Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 11 hours ago, concha said: 1) I'm betting the press you quote is probably as liberal/socialist as, or maybe even to the left of, most of the word's press and thus wakes up in the morning with indigestion about Trump no matter what he does. 2) We can back out of what we want to. 3) Nice to see you are happy to let radical Marxist and anarchist elements rule the day and subvert our basic rights. They show up and threaten violence, and you and folks like you fold like cheap lawn chairs. But that's OK because basically the only violence shutting down free speech is coming from the left and therefore is shutting up the voices you disagree with. Pathetic. "folks like you fold like cheap lawn chairs" Where did I say that I agreed with the philosophy of activism of any Berkeley student or radical? I said that I could have gone there. I said that it is potentially dangerous for Coulter to speak there. Where did I say that I (who would have voted for McCain, Graham, Kasich) identify with anything on the left? Yes, I voted for Clinton (both times) and yes, I went to their first inaugural. But I also voted for Reagan and Bush, Sr. I am not left wing and I resent your stating that I am. Ludicrous but so many Trump supporters blindly brand anyone who disagrees with them as from the left or mention Hillary or Bernie. Why can't you accept that 16 or 17 Republicans stood on stage with Trump and he insulted everyone? Is Cruz left wing because he called Trump a "pathological liar?" Today, he went after Canada as he has gone after almost everyone else-who isn't a dictator. Told North Korea that an armada was on the way and it wasn't. And, again, China has put their air force on "high alert." I've had enough of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 9 minutes ago, concha said: No babble, Chip. You either support the right of freedom of expression or you don't. It's easy for me. I don't support anyone's right to free speech or expression when they think they are Jesus Christ and were sent here to save me. Let that sink in your very thick skull... You? You are lost....just a sheep eating pasture plants clinging on to the only thing you know. Shame really. You have potential to be so much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 14 minutes ago, BigDrop said: "folks like you fold like cheap lawn chairs" Where did I say that I agreed with the philosophy of activism of any Berkeley student or radical? I said that I could have gone there. I said that it is potentially dangerous for Coulter to speak there. Where did I say that I (who would have voted for McCain, Graham, Kasich) identify with anything on the left? Yes, I voted for Clinton (both times) and yes, I went to their first inaugural. But I also voted for Reagan and Bush, Sr. I am not left wing and I resent your stating that I am. Ludicrous but so many Trump supporters blindly brand anyone who disagrees with them as from the left or mention Hillary or Bernie. Why can't you accept that 16 or 17 Republicans stood on stage with Trump and he insulted everyone? Is Cruz left wing because he called Trump a "pathological liar?" Today, he went after Canada as he has gone after almost everyone else-who isn't a dictator. Told North Korea that an armada was on the way and it wasn't. And, again, China has put their air force on "high alert." I've had enough of this. You pretty clearly expressed agreement with the decision to exclude Coulter. You expressed it due to the threat of violence. Well, guess from which side that violence would be coming? And your college acceptances were not part of my response. You either believe in the first amendment (and, frankly, the purpose of universities to challenge young minds - including (especially) with thought they may find disagreeable) or you do not. You either think the 1st amendment is worth defending or you don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Just now, TheRealCAJ said: It's easy for me. I don't support anyone's right to free speech or expression when they think they are Jesus Christ and were sent here to save me. Let that sink in your very thick skull... You? You are lost....just a sheep eating pasture plants clinging on to the only thing you know. Shame really. You have potential to be so much more. Chip, anything requiring real thought is the polar opposite of "easy for you". This is widely recognized on this board, Chip. You have made it clear that your support of free speech ends with political thought you don't like. That puts you in agreement with the likes of Hitler, Stalin, Mao... You are an un-American embarrassment. Your kids are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 4 minutes ago, concha said: . You have made it clear that your support of free speech ends with political thought you don't like. I have made it very clear I don't recognize the rights of false prophets.....nothing political about that. AND, if by chance I ever find myself at an Ann Coulter speech (it's her right) and she goes into one of her long-winded rants about how God sent her here to save my Democratic soul I'm going to bean her with a very small rock hopefully drawing large amounts of blood. That's how you treat that........It's in the Bible. Freak your 1st Amendment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 I'm surely lacking in the pay attention department and ability to focus on the subject matter. How the hell did this topic OT: Trump "armada & submarines" on way... become a conversation about protest, Berkeley, 1st Amendment, Mexican Judges, And whatever non sense Oldcooter1 threw in? So with my limited understanding I will try to decipher it. President Trump sent a make believe armada to Berkeley to protect Ann Coulter who said something inflammatory about North Korea causing them to threaten to Nuke Berkeley and Right Wingers got pissed because they threatened to stop her 1st Amendment Rights by their Nuke threat causing mass hysteria and a bunch of Left Wing Snowflakes clearly high on this sacred day 420 (Smart guys will get that reference) agreed with Kim Yung Fat because they hate Amerurrricccaaa (Rab's input) protesting wildly as usual causing Concha to reach in his shirt pocket behind the Pencil protector and break out the old Constitution looking for what the old hateful wig wearers from the 1700's had to say about Rage Monkeys. Meanwhile the armada have proven to be a ruse and Right Wingers have focused on Berkeley. Somehow a Mexican Judge did something too. WHeewww tough ass thread. Now where are those damn Sub's they didn't get mentioned at all? Even JESUS had a brief entrance and couldn't get this back on topic. I am gonna ask Tracy: Sir did any of this have anything to do with the topic? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, TheRealCAJ said: I have made it very clear I don't recognize the rights of false prophets.....nothing political about that. AND, if by chance I ever find myself at an Ann Coulter speech (it's her right) and she goes into one of her long-winded rants about how God sent her here to save my Democratic soul I'm going to bean her with a very small rock hopefully drawing large amounts of blood. That's how you treat that........It's in the Bible. Freak your 1st Amendment... So, Chip, you are a violent, un-American religious fundamentalist who is incapable of recognizing tongue-in-cheek hyperbole? Damn, Chip, you're even worse off than I thought. And that's saying something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 3 hours ago, concha said: He clung to his guns and Bible. Lol. He has neither gun nor bible. I'll bet there is not a church Trump has ever seen twice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 1 hour ago, concha said: "Everyone I Don't Like is Hitler (or in the Klan)" You either support the 1st amendment or you don't. Don't be like Chip. Has nothing to do with liking or not liking anything. Just saying if i was hosting an event I would not invite her or the KKK. Or Hiltler since you brought him up. You on the other hand can still come and speak. But your teetering on a razors edge young man and I'll be watching you. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 20 minutes ago, concha said: So, Chip, you are a violent, un-American religious fundamentalist who is incapable of recognizing tongue-in-cheek hyperbole? You are obviously totally blinkered when it comes to the extremist in your party. You pass everything off as 1st and 2nd Amendments. Open your eyes for God's sakes. Listen to these false prophets use God and Jesus like they are sitting right there with him. (scary/tragic) You call it hyperbole because sadly, quite honestly, it's how you were raised more than likely. There's no hyperboil here. If you want me to start blasting this place with Ann Coulter quotes we can play hyperboil though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDrop Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 37 minutes ago, NYHSFAN33 said: I guess I can own that. I was fired up this morning for some other reasons and did not filter my post after getting even more fired up at reading your post. That's my fault and sorry for that. However do understand that is not even that bad. I am not sure where you're from, your age, etc. I am 34 from NY. if you spoke to most of my friends, that is not even approaching disrespectful in a casual conversation. It's mostly ball busting and jabs. When my wife (then girlfriend) first started dating me she was wondering what she got herself into. Appreciate your comments, NYHSFAN33. Thank you. Some of this is my fault for even mentioning Trump on a board whose common bond is high school football. Perhaps what is most important is that I travelled heavily for over 30 years in North America and Europe for my business. Because of my love for hs ball starting in the '60's I watched a lot of games on Friday nights around the U. S. I saw a lot and made a lot of friends in the stands-some I still talk to occasionally. I was born in D. C. and have continuously lived in the Washington area, including the city. I am sincerely thankful for the experiences that I have had. To be honest, political experiences over the last 18 or so months have not been among them. Thanks again, NYHSFAN33. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, World Citizen said: Has nothing to do with liking or not liking anything. Just saying if i was hosting an event I would not invite her or the KKK. Or Hiltler since you brought him up. You on the other hand can still come and speak. But your teetering on a razors edge young man and I'll be watching you. ? So your decision to not invite Coulter would not be because you don't like her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 1 minute ago, TheRealCAJ said: You are obviously totally blinkered when it comes to the extremist in your party. You pass everything off as 1st and 2nd Amendments. Open your eyes for God's sake. Listen to these false prophets use God and Jesus like they are sitting right there with him. (scary/tragic) You call it hyperbole because sady, quite honestly, it's how you were raised more than likely. There's no hyperboil here. If you want me to start blasting this place with Ann Coulter quotes we can play hyperboil though.. I - like your kids - would just like to see you stop being an idiot, Chip. Can you stop being an idiot? Can you, Chip? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDrop Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 41 minutes ago, concha said: You pretty clearly expressed agreement with the decision to exclude Coulter. You expressed it due to the threat of violence. Well, guess from which side that violence would be coming? And your college acceptances were not part of my response. You either believe in the first amendment (and, frankly, the purpose of universities to challenge young minds - including (especially) with thought they may find disagreeable) or you do not. You either think the 1st amendment is worth defending or you don't. Coulter and Berkeley are combustible. If the city of Berkeley can protect its residents both those who agree and those who disagree with her opinions then it should be held.As of now they believe that the event can go on. If I were Ann Coulter there are other places that I would rather give a speech. She'll get a lot of publicity for this and perhaps her career needs the press. Still, for me it seems risky. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 1 minute ago, concha said: I - like your kids - would just like to see you stop being an idiot, Chip. Can you stop being an idiot? Can you, Chip? The truth scares you, why is that?.....don't want to see it? Mr. Ostrich....I'll let you off the hook though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Just now, BigDrop said: Coulter and Berkeley are combustible. If the city of Berkeley can protect its residents both those who agree and those who disagree with her opinions then it should be held.As of now they believe that the event can go on. If I were Ann Coulter there are other places that I would rather give a speech. She'll get a lot of publicity for this and perhaps her career needs the press. Still, for me it seems risky. "They" are not combustible. Elements of the Berkeley campus and community do not respect freedom of thought and speech that they don't like, and they are willing to engage in violence over it. You either cave-in to their shit or you stand up to defend one of the first and most basic of American rights and values. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Freakin Cheeto Trump: Head of the Church. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Just now, TheRealCAJ said: The truth scares you, why is that?.....don't want to see it? Mr. Ostrich....I'll let you off the hook though Chip, please stop embarrassing yourself. You - the guy who is happy to deny the right of freedom of expression to others - is accusing ME of being scared of the truth? Your stupidity knows no bounds, Chip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 8 minutes ago, concha said: So your decision to not invite Coulter would not be because you don't like her? I like to spend my time on more positive activities. So my decision would be based on that and not if I like her or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Just now, World Citizen said: I like to spend my time on more positive activities. So my decision would be based on that and not if I like her or not. I'm sure that's the explanation that the antifa thugs use also. They're all about positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRealCAJ Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 15 minutes ago, concha said: Chip, please stop embarrassing yourself. You - the guy who is happy to deny the right of freedom of expression to others - is accusing ME of being scared of the truth? That's what you keep saying. I'm not happy about it though. It saddens me really. I wish the Devil did not exist. Milo Yiannopoulos and Ann Coulter.......whew! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDrop Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 47 minutes ago, concha said: "They" are not combustible. Elements of the Berkeley campus and community do not respect freedom of thought and speech that they don't like, and they are willing to engage in violence over it. You either cave-in to their shit or you stand up to defend one of the first and most basic of American rights and values. I totally agree with you that "elements" of the Berkeley campus are like that. I would be disagreeing with them, too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat_Scratch Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 6 hours ago, TheRealCAJ said: Me too. What excatly is Ann Coulter's purpose on this planet, Mr IQ?. She has never married and has no children. Is it to be a loudmouth controversial bitch 24/7? Probably the same as your purpose, to make a living and state your opinions. Like it or not she actually has more respect than you. She does not incite violence, people who do not want other people to hear opposing ideas incite violence. There are a lot of very dangerous Liberals out there, as many or more than there are Conservatives as we are seeing weekly. By the way, her speech is going to be about her NY Times best seller book. Why would the Liberals want to shut that down? Because it's about Illegal Immigration? How many books have you had published? How many made a best seller list? Think about why you generalize a whole sect of humans with ideas other than yours and cast stones at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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