Columbiafan Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 53 minutes ago, 181pl said: Sorry guys, open your eyes. Reality will smack you in the face when you figure out how mediocre Florida is this year. Only because you assume that a team needs to be a name brand to be good which you said yourself on page 1 You feel that if a team doesn't have a bunch of big names dominating that the state is struggling That isn't always the case A program like Plant struggling don't mean the state is down if someone else is equally strong and holding down the fort 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Coffee GA vs Godby FL on 10/4.... Who wins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrecoRoman Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 7 hours ago, 181pl said: Look at these AP rankings. There are almost no dominant teams. http://www.theprepzone.com/2019/09/18/2019-ap-high-school-football-state-rankings-week-5/ I guess if you judge it by OOS HS games which yea I get that is the point of this site but its so useless in the grand scheme of things.I judge it by talent output defined as success at the next level and FL is #1 all things considered. I'm always in LA so I take my young son to MD and SJB games. Believe me - those teams are as good as advertised...I havent seen HS teams that have the talent/coaching/discipline all merged together as good as they do. Does that mean I would say Cali is better than FL in football - no way. I can tell you that I recruited the nation for years working in a Big 10 program as their S&C coach and nowhere comes close to the FL up through GA zone for talent Not to mention - all of these "great" teams are huge recruited parochials, academys etc - not sure what the big celebration is of their fan base, FL seems to be the only state with multiple publics who have the balls to take on these schools and while they squashed at least they step up. For me making it to the next level is what football is about and FL reigns supreme whether college or NFL and has for a real long time (GA creepin right behind when adjusting for pop) of course TX and Cali but there high populations are a big factor as the per capita based on the amount of HS players is not even close to FL.GA 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted September 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Only because you assume that a team needs to be a name brand to be good which you said yourself on page 1 You feel that if a team doesn't have a bunch of big names dominating that the state is struggling That isn't always the case A program like Plant struggling don't mean the state is down if someone else is equally strong and holding down the fort Plant sucking has nothing to do with Central, MNW, and others getting blown out. Or Armwood losing to N. Gwinnett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: Coffee GA vs Godby FL on 10/4.... Who wins? Last year Godby probably could have a shot This year gotta go with coffee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Just now, 181pl said: Plant sucking has nothing to do with Central, MNW, and others getting blown out. Or Armwood losing to N. Gwinnett. Central got blown out by a team more loaded on paper than IMG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 1 minute ago, 181pl said: Plant sucking has nothing to do with Central, MNW, and others getting blown out. Or Armwood losing to N. Gwinnett. Armwood held their own and lost in OT I wouldn't use that result to say FL sucks this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted September 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Columbia fan. I want you to honestly give me three FLA teams outside if STA, IMG, and Lakeland that deserve top 100 recognition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Just now, 181pl said: Columbia fan. I want you to honestly give me three FLA teams outside if STA, IMG, and Lakeland that deserve top 100 recognition. How about this, I normally work on my rankings Sunday so I'll do that list and I'll give you my list then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted September 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 Fair enough... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Guru Posted September 22, 2019 Report Share Posted September 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, Bodysurf said: Alumbaugh is right. De La Salle has beaten one of those teams before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Rockets Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 9/21/2019 at 3:31 PM, 181pl said: Columbia fan. I want you to honestly give me three FLA teams outside if STA, IMG, and Lakeland that deserve top 100 recognition. Despite getting blown out in game one, Miami Central is still a top 25 team and by far top 100. I would even put Miami Northwestern in there along with South Dade, American Heritage, and Lake City Columbia just making the cut. With the FHSAA splitting up all of the classes, it makes things look really watered down. This year the state is not looking good in OOS games, and with kids transferring at an alarming rate, teams are not as dominant as before. Outside of IMG and STA it's really hard for many of the states public schools to recruit and get the cream of the crop. Lakeland is loaded, but after this year I won't be surprised if they take a dip in talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 9/21/2019 at 3:16 PM, ECHS05 said: Coffee GA vs Godby FL on 10/4.... Who wins? Considering this is one of the weaker Godby teams, I’d go with Coffee. They needed a miracle to win against a team outside the top thousand. Unless you can give us a reason why Godby should win. Maybe ask the experts. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, The Guru said: Alumbaugh is right. De La Salle has beaten one of those teams before. STA has beaten SJB, and DLS a combined 3 times. Its old hat at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 4 hours ago, The Guru said: Alumbaugh is right. De La Salle has beaten one of those teams before. The question was about this year. Of course you knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 31 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: STA has beaten SJB, and DLS a combined 3 times. Its old hat at this point. The only thing "old" is your continued references to games played before this current year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Considering this is one of the weaker Godby teams, I’d go with Coffee. They needed a miracle to win against a team outside the top thousand. Unless you can give us a reason why Godby should win. Maybe ask the experts. Lol I'm off until Monday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: I'm off until Monday. Please expert! I seek the guidance and wisdom as to how 2-3 Godby can beat 5-0 Coffee. With your permission, I’d like to relay said expertise to the Godby coaches. I will seek you out after tomorrow’s sun rise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 9/21/2019 at 3:33 PM, 181pl said: Fair enough... Sorry for the delay, i didn't finish rankings until today but I'll have your answer very soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 On 9/21/2019 at 4:50 AM, 181pl said: The state is living on reputation alone. Outside of St Thomas and IMG and maybe Lakeland, Florida does not really even have one legitimate top 100 team right now. Looks like Edgewater, Columbia and a couple others are also having decent years, but I'm not sold on them as top 100 teams in the country. Dade appears to be way, way, way down. They are getting their asses handed to them in every big game. The Tampa area is terrible. We have two or 3 legitimate teams. Armwood and Tampa Bay Tech. Maybe Lakewood. Tech and Lakewood have never proven it in the playoffs however. If they get to the third round it's a miracle. The rest of our area is pure garbage. Finally, somebody who gets it!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
954gator Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, AztecPadre said: Finally, somebody who gets it!! Lol, Cali would look bad too if your top 20-50ish teams all went out and played every states top teams. These Fl teams do it whether they are hot or not, and they travel 90% of the time. It is what it is. Most of the times it doesn't look to good. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, 954gator said: Lol, Cali would look bad too if your top 20-50ish teams all went out and played every states top teams. These Fl teams do it whether they are hot or not, and they travel 90% of the time. It is what it is. Most of the times it doesn't look to good. Yeah if you really break it down and don’t troll, The only upset is north Gwinnett over Armwood. And even then they took ArmWoods game-winning touchdown off the board with a phantom Georgia flag. And all the other out-of-state games the Florida favorite won like STA over DLS and deer jerky over Zachary. Can you list any games where in inferior out of state opponent beat higher ranked Florida team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted September 23, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 3 hours ago, AztecPadre said: Finally, somebody who gets it!! I'm just talking about this year. Typically Florida's depth would wipe soft California off the map... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted September 23, 2019 Report Share Posted September 23, 2019 54 minutes ago, 181pl said: I'm just talking about this year. Typically Florida's depth would wipe soft California off the map... Nevermind. You don't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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