rush limbaugh claims coronavirus is being 'weaponized' to 'bring down' Trump

[DevilDog]

https://www.jpost.com/judaism/Secret-Bible-codes-allegedly-predict-worldwide-coronavirus-outbreak-616048

Could the Bible have predicted today's worldwide coronavirus outbreak?

Controversial biblical scholar Rabbi Matityahu Glazerson: "You have it exactly in the section of the Torah that says things you should not eat."

 

Pointing out numerous news stories that point to the coronavirus outbreak originating from China's markets – which were reported to have included everything from rats, snakes, bats, fish and still living wolf pups – Glazerson explained an excerpt from the Book of Leviticus that spoke about the importance of not eating impure food.

[Blueliner]

1 hour ago, Horsefly said:

The h1n1 originated in Mexico. No need to impose a travel ban

the coronavirus is not like a cold.  It’s much more serious.  Use actual non partisan doctors as a reference, it’s more reliable 

 

FYI: Some common colds are actually a type of coronavirus. 

Yep, you read that right: Common human coronaviruses—not to be confused with the novel coronavirus, or SARS-CoV-2, currently circulating—can cause mild to moderate upper-respiratory tract illnesses, like the common cold, per the CDC. In fact, the majority of people will get infected with one or more of these viruses at some point in their lives—according to Marie-Louise Landry, MD, an infectious disease expert at Yale Medicine and the director of the Yale Clinical Virology Laboratory, four common human coronaviruses cause 15-30% of common colds. (Most often, however, the common cold is caused by a rhinoviruses, per the CDC).

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Yes. There are clearly some differences that make the novel coronavirus a little more problematic than a common cold coronavirus. But the novel coronavirus is still in a family of viruses that don't typically kill people. Especially people that are not 80 years old, immune-compromised with underlying medical conditions...which is the exact population that this virus is affecting in close-quarters living conditions. 

 

And you make an interesting statement.  Why no travel ban nor border control with Mexico for H1N1? Serious question.

 

 

[Horsefly]

22 minutes ago, Blueliner said:

FYI: Some common colds are actually a type of coronavirus. 

Yep, you read that right: Common human coronaviruses—not to be confused with the novel coronavirus, or SARS-CoV-2, currently circulating—can cause mild to moderate upper-respiratory tract illnesses, like the common cold, per the CDC. In fact, the majority of people will get infected with one or more of these viruses at some point in their lives—according to Marie-Louise Landry, MD, an infectious disease expert at Yale Medicine and the director of the Yale Clinical Virology Laboratory, four common human coronaviruses cause 15-30% of common colds. (Most often, however, the common cold is caused by a rhinoviruses, per the CDC).

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Yes. There are clearly some differences that make the novel coronavirus a little more problematic than a common cold coronavirus. But the novel coronavirus is still in a family of viruses that don't typically kill people. Especially people that are not 80 years old, immune-compromised with underlying medical conditions...which is the exact population that this virus is affecting in close-quarters living conditions. 

 

And you make an interesting statement.  Why no travel ban nor border control with Mexico for H1N1? Serious question.

 

 

The novel vita virus is a different strain than the common cold.  

once viruses have already spread in a country travel bans into that country aren’t as effective. 
http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1894786,00.html

obama had the WHO and CDC both support his decision to not have a travel ban 

[thc6795]

Does anyone of you personally know someone with Muhan Coronavirus?

I have family in Washington State, Utah, Colorado, CA, NM and I live in TX. I asked them the same question. Not one of them personally knew of anyone.

[thc6795]

37 minutes ago, Blueliner said:

FYI: Some common colds are actually a type of coronavirus. 

Yep, you read that right: Common human coronaviruses—not to be confused with the novel coronavirus, or SARS-CoV-2, currently circulating—can cause mild to moderate upper-respiratory tract illnesses, like the common cold, per the CDC. In fact, the majority of people will get infected with one or more of these viruses at some point in their lives—according to Marie-Louise Landry, MD, an infectious disease expert at Yale Medicine and the director of the Yale Clinical Virology Laboratory, four common human coronaviruses cause 15-30% of common colds. (Most often, however, the common cold is caused by a rhinoviruses, per the CDC).

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Yes. There are clearly some differences that make the novel coronavirus a little more problematic than a common cold coronavirus. But the novel coronavirus is still in a family of viruses that don't typically kill people. Especially people that are not 80 years old, immune-compromised with underlying medical conditions...which is the exact population that this virus is affecting in close-quarters living conditions. 

 

And you make an interesting statement.  Why no travel ban nor border control with Mexico for H1N1? Serious question.

 

 

Be careful bro, you can't attack saint Obama. I fear you will feel the wrath soon.

[Blueliner]

1 hour ago, thc6795 said:

Does anyone of you personally know someone with Muhan Coronavirus?

I have family in Washington State, Utah, Colorado, CA, NM and I live in TX. I asked them the same question. Not one of them personally knew of anyone.

None. The closest case to me is 200 miles away. 

 

1 hour ago, Horsefly said:

The novel vita virus is a different strain than the common cold.  

once viruses have already spread in a country travel bans into that country aren’t as effective. 
http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1894786,00.html

obama had the WHO and CDC both support his decision to not have a travel ban 

How did that work out for them? Trump said he appreciated everyone's input (which was to not have a travel ban) and promptly made an unpopular executive decision that prevented an untold number of exposures. Thankfully, he had the cojones to do so.

Be strait with me. (1) Do you agree with the way Obama handled H1N1? (if yes then why) and (2) Is the media being fair with Trump's handling of this...keeping in mind how Obama's "challenges" have been well-documented? Be straight...no deflection or vague answers allowed.

[thc6795]

3 minutes ago, Blueliner said:

None. The closest case to me is 200 miles away. 

 

How did that work out for them? Trump said he appreciated everyone's input (which was to not have a travel ban) and promptly made an unpopular executive decision that prevented an untold number of exposures. Thankfully, he had the cojones to do so.

Be strait with me. (1) Do you agree with the way Obama handled H1N1? (if yes then why) and (2) Is the media being fair with Trump's handling of this...keeping in mind how Obama's "challenges" have been well-documented? Be straight...no deflection or vague answers allowed.

Do you know that person or did the media report it?

[Blueliner]

7 minutes ago, thc6795 said:

Do you know that person or did the media report it?

The media reported it from all I can tell. There were two cases actually from the same local area. I'm pretty sure they've been cleared by now. Not sure 100% though. 

[BigDrop]

1 hour ago, thc6795 said:

Does anyone of you personally know someone with Muhan Coronavirus?

I have family in Washington State, Utah, Colorado, CA, NM and I live in TX. I asked them the same question. Not one of them personally knew of anyone.

I have a good friend whose 90 year old mother is in a nursing home in Torino, Italy.  His sister who lives nearby is not allowed to visit her.

[Horsefly]

28 minutes ago, Blueliner said:

None. The closest case to me is 200 miles away. 

 

How did that work out for them? Trump said he appreciated everyone's input (which was to not have a travel ban) and promptly made an unpopular executive decision that prevented an untold number of exposures. Thankfully, he had the cojones to do so.

Be strait with me. (1) Do you agree with the way Obama handled H1N1? (if yes then why) and (2) Is the media being fair with Trump's handling of this...keeping in mind how Obama's "challenges" have been well-documented? Be straight...no deflection or vague answers allowed.

It worked fine for the rest of the world.  Plenty of studies out there on the effects of travel bans 

I don’t blow smoke about Obama but I interjected on falsehoods about what he didn’t do.  Just like trump blaming Obama’s previous policies on the current situation.  That’s a terrible trait for a leader, and that’s my reference point from experience and being around a ton of military Generals.  A lot of what trump does and says is in deflecting blame is a joke. 

[thc6795]

6 minutes ago, BigDrop said:

I have a good friend whose 90 year old mother is in a nursing home in Torino, Italy.  His sister who lives nearby is not allowed to visit her.

So your answer is no.

[thc6795]

22 minutes ago, Blueliner said:

The media reported it from all I can tell. There were two cases actually from the same local area. I'm pretty sure they've been cleared by now. Not sure 100% though. 

Just seems odd none of us personally know anyone. Except for who the media tells us who has it.

I know a few people who had the bird flu and H1N1.  But the Wuhan seems to only attack socialite's or Hollywood stars, famous athletes, basically just people we all know thru TV or media.

Have you seen Donavon Mitchell's post? He says he feels fine hasn't felt sick. Very weird.

[Bormio]

30 minutes ago, BigDrop said:

I have a good friend whose 90 year old mother is in a nursing home in Torino, Italy.  His sister who lives nearby is not allowed to visit her.

That is true nearly everywhere in the US.  I can’t see my mom in assisted living 

[Horsefly]

26 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said:

 

I watched the full video, it was quite informative on aligning the mind, body and spirit.  Watch it, it would probably do you good instead of ignorantly posting edited garbage 

[Blueliner]

1 hour ago, Horsefly said:

It worked fine for the rest of the world.  Plenty of studies out there on the effects of travel bans 

I don’t blow smoke about Obama but I interjected on falsehoods about what he didn’t do.  Just like trump blaming Obama’s previous policies on the current situation.  That’s a terrible trait for a leader, and that’s my reference point from experience and being around a ton of military Generals.  A lot of what trump does and says is in deflecting blame is a joke. 

We can agree on this to a certain degree. You being from a military background, and me from a paramilitary background, we personally would never blame our predecessor for our plights as the current leader nor do we talk smack to the troops about the boss. Complaints go up the chain, not down. Not a good look when that does happens. Trump should have left Obama out of this and continue to do what he's doing to help the country with this outbreak. 

That being said, we didn't get promoted to become the leader of a country where the major party AND the entire media complex are trying to overthrow him, discredit him at the very minimum, at every single turn 24/7/365 in an attempt to regain power. I wish it wasn't this way, but this has what it's come to from the policies of Presidents over the past 3 decades. Trump is fighting the dems using their own battle tactics. The days of acquiescence by the GOP are over. I can, to a degree, appreciate that he points out the failings/hypocrisy of past Presidents. How do we "learn" if we just assume everything was on the up and up? You can believe him or not. I believe him...along with an increasingly growing number of Americans. 

[Horsefly]

40 minutes ago, Blueliner said:

We can agree on this to a certain degree. You being from a military background, and me from a paramilitary background, we personally would never blame our predecessor for our plights as the current leader nor do we talk smack to the troops about the boss. Complaints go up the chain, not down. Not a good look when that does happens. Trump should have left Obama out of this and continue to do what he's doing to help the country with this outbreak. 

That being said, we didn't get promoted to become the leader of a country where the major party AND the entire media complex are trying to overthrow him, discredit him at the very minimum, at every single turn 24/7/365 in an attempt to regain power. I wish it wasn't this way, but this has what it's come to from the policies of Presidents over the past 3 decades. Trump is fighting the dems using their own battle tactics. The days of acquiescence by the GOP are over. I can, to a degree, appreciate that he points out the failings/hypocrisy of past Presidents. How do we "learn" if we just assume everything was on the up and up? You can believe him or not. I believe him...along with an increasingly growing number of Americans. 

Yes, but what has happened with trump compared to previous presidents Dem or repub?  
The hatred for him all started with his campaign in how he talked to people and mocked them then his supporters applauded him and said “he tells it like it is”.  

Hes not ridiculing constructively and a lot of times they are fabrications or distortions of the truth. So I can go accept he's combating the left's lies and distortion by creating his own lies and distortions.  Nor do I think he's draining the swamp.  He's had a lot of turnover in his own admin with a few assocIates being prosecuted.  

 IMO he’s like Sanders, he doesn’t know how to work with others or unite us together as a nation.  

[concha]

39 minutes ago, Horsefly said:

Yes, but what has happened with trump compared to previous presidents Dem or repub?  
The hatred for him all started with his campaign in how he talked to people and mocked them then his supporters applauded him and said “he tells it like it is”.  

Hes not ridiculing constructively and a lot of times they are fabrications or distortions of the truth.  IMO he’s like Sanders, he doesn’t know how to work with others or unite us together as a nation.  

 

If you believe Pew research (and I do),  the gap between the parties has widened greatly in the last 25 years. And most of the movement has clearly been by the Democrats moving sharply left.

Core Republican/conservative positions have not changed materially over the years. If you disagree I am happy to listen to examples.

Look at the Dems/left though.  

Look at one of the biggest issues of our time. Immigration and border control.  Clinton, Obama, Schumer...  all can be found on video preaching immigration and border control.  Dem presidential candidates today call for literally open borders.  Not only that, they call for hard-working Americans to pay for the healthcare, education etc of foreigners.

Healthcare policy movement to the left has become more extreme.

Reliance on the government and only the government to solve perceived ills....

Identity politics run amok.

At least one, if not two, leading Dem presidential candidates are socialists.  S-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-t-s.

 

There is no "uniting" of Americans (except maybe in extraordinary circumstances) when scores of millions have been led by the nose evermore left. A typical Republican of 20 or 30 years ago would not feel out-of-place in a Republican convention of today.  A typical 1990s Democrat transported to today would wonder the hell happened to his party.

 

 

[concha]

 

If you don't believe Pew, here's Gallup:

 

[BigDrop]

3 hours ago, thc6795 said:

So your answer is no.

Fuck you, you unfeeling bastard.

[concha]

2 minutes ago, BigDrop said:

Fuck you, you unfeeling bastard.

 

How does you not personally knowing anyone who is infected (in answer to his question and ignoring your irrelevant, babbling response to it) make him an unfeeling bastard?  🤣

 

 

[BigDrop]

2 hours ago, Bormio said:

That is true nearly everywhere in the US.  I can’t see my mom in assisted living

41 minutes ago, concha said:

 

If you believe Pew research (and I do),  the gap between the parties has widened greatly in the last 25 years. And most of the movement has clearly been by the Democrats moving sharply left.

Core Republican/conservative positions have not changed materially over the years. If you disagree I am happy to listen to examples.

Look at the Dems/left though.  

Look at one of the biggest issues of our time. Immigration and border control.  Clinton, Obama, Schumer...  all can be found on video preaching immigration and border control.  Dem presidential candidates today call for literally open borders.  Not only that, they call for hard-working Americans to pay for the healthcare, education etc of foreigners.

Healthcare policy movement to the left has become more extreme.

Reliance on the government and only the government to solve perceived ills....

Identity politics run amok.

At least one, if not two, leading Dem presidential candidates are socialists.  S-o-c-i-a-l-i-s-t-s.

 

There is no "uniting" of Americans (except maybe in extraordinary circumstances) when scores of millions have been led by the nose evermore left. A typical Republican of 20 or 30 years ago would not feel out-of-place in a Republican convention of today.  A typical 1990s Democrat transported to today would wonder the hell happened to his party.

 

 

My heart goes out to you for your not being able to see your mom.  

[BigDrop]

5 minutes ago, concha said:

 

How does you not personally knowing anyone who is infected (in answer to his question and ignoring your irrelevant, babbling response to it) make him an unfeeling bastard?  🤣

 

 

I have had dinner with his mom multiple times.  Serious: go fuck yourself!  You’re messing with the mother of a close friend.

This may be a forum where people sit in front of a keyboard and say whatever comes to mind.  But there are human beings on the other side.  You wouldn’t say this about your own family.  Don’t say it about the mother of a close friend.

[concha]

1 minute ago, BigDrop said:

 

 

Look, maybe you have Biden-like issues.

I was responding to a remark about uniting the country.

 

Is there a clear evidentiary basis to blame the test kit situation on Trump?  The folks at the CDC were in charge. Medical experts. Do we know that Trump interfered?  Was he directly in charge of the production facilities that had issues?

Fact:  Much more has been done more quickly than under H1N1.

 

[BigDrop]

Trump directed it.  He said that it was his decision to start over.  Trump!  Again, nobody else:  Trump. He said so-proudly-in his press conference yesterday.

[concha]

6 minutes ago, BigDrop said:

I have had dinner with his mom multiple times.  Serious: go fuck yourself!  You’re messing with the mother of a close friend.

This may be a forum where people sit in front of a keyboard and say whatever comes to mind.  But there are human beings on the other side.  You wouldn’t say this about your own family.  Don’t say it about the mother of a close friend.

 

So then just say "yes".

How the fuck did I or thc "mess" with this poor woman? What did I say about this woman? Let me help you Mr. Biden:  N-O-T-H-I-N-G.

You seriously DO have Biden-like issues.

Go take your meds.