RedZone Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said: But they fired Rodriguez and Hoke because they didn't want to win 6 or 7 games. ..and they hired Jim "7 out of 10" Harbaugh for $8 million....best win in 2017 was vs (7-6) Purdue. 2017-Michigan (Big Ten) 9/2 vs. Florida (4-7) W 33 17 @ Arlington, TX 9/9 vs. Cincinnati (4-8) W 36 14 9/16 vs. Air Force (5-7) W 29 13 9/23 @ *Purdue (7-6) W 28 10 10/7 vs. *Michigan State (10-3) L 10 14 10/14 @ *Indiana (5-7) W 27 20 10/21 @ *Penn State (11-2) L 13 42 10/28 vs. *Rutgers (4-8) W 35 14 11/4 vs. *Minnesota (5-7) W 33 10 11/11 @ *Maryland (4-8) W 35 10 11/18 @ *Wisconsin (13-1) L 10 24 11/25 vs. *Ohio State (12-2) L 20 31 1/1 vs. South Carolina (9-4) L 19 26 @ Tampa, FL Outback Bowl 8-5-0 328 245 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 ...2018?......3 losses again to the 3 best teams he faced... 2018-Michigan (Big Ten) 9/1 @ Notre Dame (12-1) L 17 24 9/8 vs. Western Michigan (7-6) W 49 3 9/15 vs. Southern Methodist (5-7) W 45 20 9/22 vs. *Nebraska (4-8) W 56 10 9/29 @ *Northwestern (9-5) W 20 17 10/6 vs. *Maryland (5-7) W 42 21 10/13 vs. *Wisconsin (8-5) W 38 13 10/20 @ *Michigan State (7-6) W 21 7 11/3 vs. *Penn State (9-4) W 42 7 11/10 @ *Rutgers (1-11) W 42 7 11/17 vs. *Indiana (5-7) W 31 20 11/24 @ *Ohio State (13-1) L 39 62 12/29 vs. Florida (10-3) L 15 41 @ Atlanta, GA Peach Bowl 10-3-0 457 252 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 ....2019?.....ugly again, but somewhat better. Did beat Iowa and Notre Dame. 2019-Michigan (Big Ten) 8/31 vs. Middle Tennessee State (4-8) W 40 21 9/7 vs. Army (5-8) W 24 21 9/21 @ *Wisconsin (10-4) L 14 35 9/28 vs. *Rutgers (2-10) W 52 0 10/5 vs. *Iowa (10-3) W 10 3 10/12 @ *Illinois (6-7) W 42 25 10/19 @ *Penn State (11-2) L 21 28 10/26 vs. Notre Dame (11-2) W 45 14 11/2 @ *Maryland (3-9) W 38 7 11/16 vs. *Michigan State (7-6) W 44 10 11/23 @ *Indiana (8-5) W 39 14 11/30 vs. *Ohio State (13-1) L 27 56 1/1 vs. Alabama (11-2) L 16 35 @ Orlando, FL Citrus Bowl 9-4-0 412 269 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 On 11/29/2020 at 2:10 PM, Ga96 said: Missing Herman and frost a litany of sec coaches. I would take vandy coach off the list im not sure they care about football and not many 4 and 5 stars matching the GPA requirements and willing to put up with taking beatings week in and out. Sumlin probably shouldnt be on here either I haven't heard of any coaches jumping in joy to coach out in the desert. I would put cristobal on the list. In fairness to Coach Mason, Vandy admissions scrutinizing every app and red flags athletes for extra scrutiny. Extremely hard to gain admission and the academia rigor is tough. Any hint of plagiarism is auto-expulsion. bgw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 ...2020?.....6th Big 10 with a record of 2-4 Another Ohio St beatdown on the way too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, RedZone said: ...2020?.....6th Big 10 with a record of 2-4 Another Ohio St beatdown on the way too. Don’t you have Apple and pencils to sell downtown. Ogereron needs to buy another ship since Beckham got banned for being stupid on camera. bgw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetlarry Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: Yes, the higher level that success the better. Only bozos like you are confused by this. So the fact that Harbaugh, for all of his “success” as you so succinctly put, has won zero titles.......made no playoffs.......has won one bowl game in six years and has had zero wins against his biggest rival says his “high level” of success really isn’t that high at all. Gotcha. No need to respond, though I know you will because you can’t help yourself as this is your sole interaction with people. You proved my point for me. As your mommy said, “Everybody is outta step but Andy!” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 23 minutes ago, Sweetlarry said: So the fact that Harbaugh, for all of his “success” as you so succinctly put, has won zero titles.......made no playoffs.......has won one bowl game in six years and has had zero wins against his biggest rival says his “high level” of success really isn’t that high at all. Gotcha. No need to respond, though I know you will because you can’t help yourself as this is your sole interaction with people. You proved my point for me. As your mommy said, “Everybody is outta step but Andy!” “Top to bottom Michigan is about excellence, greatness. You have my pledge I will carry forward the excellence of Michigan football.” - Jim Harbaugh Apparently at Michigan (and in Andy World), excellence is typically finishing third in a 7-team division of a 14-team conference, never winning a title, and bending over nearly every time you get to the post season. Oh, and let's not forget making your school's greatest rival really happy every year. The Surrender Cobra approves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 When I agree with cryin' concha it's time to pack it in, Finch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 RedZone still avoiding an explanation of how 8-5 isn't a bad season for Brady Hoke but 9-4 for Harbaugh is ugly. 😄 He never subjects people to the same standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 11 hours ago, Sweetlarry said: So the fact that Harbaugh, for all of his “success” as you so succinctly put, has won zero titles.......made no playoffs.......has won one bowl game in six years and has had zero wins against his biggest rival says his “high level” of success really isn’t that high at all. Gotcha. Hoke had a win against Ohio State. Must be better, huh? You're just cherry-picking as usual. Ohio State is clearly a better program than Michigan right now. Why should an arbitrary standard be applied to them just because they're rivals? Look at the entire resume. Stop picking and choosing what you think is important (bowl wins? lol). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: Hoke had a win against Ohio State. Must be better, huh? You're just cherry-picking as usual. Ohio State is clearly a better program than Michigan right now. Why should an arbitrary standard be applied to them just because they're rivals? Look at the entire resume. Stop picking and choosing what you think is important (bowl wins? lol). But Harbaugh is great. Right? Why isn't Michigan catching up? Or at least taking second place in the division by now? They're looking at a potential last place this season. Nearly six years in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, concha said: But Harbaugh is great. Right? Yeah. I know that you hate Michigan but denying that he's a great coach is silly. Even for a Buckeye fan. If the referees had spotted the ball correctly in 2016 and they had beaten Ohio State, won the division and made the playoff then would you all of the sudden change your tune? According to your standards the answer is yes and that's dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: RedZone still avoiding an explanation of how 8-5 isn't a bad season for Brady Hoke but 9-4 for Harbaugh is ugly. 😄 He never subjects people to the same standard. Again. Brady Hoke was paid peanuts at Michigan. Michigan decided to go ALL IN on Jim Harbaugh. The savior! Saviors don't average almost 4 losses per season. Is this that difficult to comprehend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 Just now, RedZone said: Again. Brady Hoke was paid peanuts at Michigan. Again, this isn't relevant to what you said. Employing a sliding scale based on salary is soooo RedZone. 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 Finch wants people to explain themselves over and over, but in his 1,875 posts on the subject he hasn't addressed Jim Harbaugh's performance in "money games" at Michigan ONE TIME......Finch just regurgitates Harbaugh's ability to beat up on the Big 10 newbies, the 6-7 teams and the 7-6 teams...etc. Finch is such a clown sometimes...🤡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, RedZone said: Finch wants people to explain themselves over and over, but in his 1,875 posts on the subject he hasn't addressed Jim Harbaugh's performance in "money games" at Michigan ONE TIME...... I have. I can keep going if you'd like but I'm going to wait, first, for you to twist yourself out of this pretzel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 22 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Again, this isn't relevant to what you said. It couldn't be more relevant......money/record is about as relevant as it gets in this business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: I can keep going if you'd like Please do.....start all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, RedZone said: It couldn't be more relevant......money/record is about as relevant as it gets in this business. It's just an excuse for you to cover for you inconsistencies. And it's a convenient one that you'll use when Billy Napier sucks at the P5 level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Atticus Finch said: It's just an excuse You've been making excuses for Jim Harbaugh's performance at Michigan for 3 weeks now.......3 different threads. Here's the bottom line. Michigan people aren't happy with Jim Harbaugh....he has proven to be NOT what they ordered. His record vs elite and above average teams is pathetic in his stint at Michigan. Blame it on whatever you can dream up. Maybe it's just an old fashion "bad fit", maybe the guy has just gotten stranger and older...maybe a lot of things. Michigan will lose 5 games this year, maybe 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 People can look at LSU this year and it's easy to see why they are struggling. I wasn't high on LSU this year. Most weren't. WHY is Michigan struggling and headed backwards, Finch?....Michigan was a Preseason Top 25 team as they are every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
concha Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Yeah. I know that you hate Michigan but denying that he's a great coach is silly. Even for a Buckeye fan. If the referees had spotted the ball correctly in 2016 and they had beaten Ohio State, won the division and made the playoff then would you all of the sudden change your tune? According to your standards the answer is yes and that's dumb. I hate Michigan. Harbaugh has hardly displayed greatness there. NOT mutually exclusive truths. No titles. 3rd place finishes standard. His Greatness is currently presiding over potentially the worst Michigan season since the early 60s. And the 2016 call was correct, so no tune changing required. Hardly shocking you'd go grasping at straws like that. I was at that game. Glorious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 47 minutes ago, RedZone said: You've been making excuses for Jim Harbaugh's performance at Michigan for 3 weeks now.......3 different threads. I've been giving reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted December 1, 2020 Report Share Posted December 1, 2020 48 minutes ago, RedZone said: Here's the bottom line. The bottom line is his record which you've been trying to cherry-pick to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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