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Arrested for being black....at starbucks?


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10 minutes ago, noonereal said:

When did the laws on what you can sue for change?

Started a long time ago .... too many people going to law school = too many future potential lawyers. It’s a supply and demand problem. There’s an abundance of lawyers out there and not enough legitimate legal work to do .... so you have a bunch of lawyers out there who need to make a living by representing some real low life’s out there. For example .... when someone  burns their tongue drinking hot coffee at McDonald’s, guys looking for financial settlement when asked to leave a Starbucks for not purchasing anything and getting arrested looking for a payout, providing legal advice to  some skank porn star, fake sexual harassment cases brought to you by Gloria Allred and daughter, you need more examples? 

You think any of the ACLU (anti Christian labor union lawyers ) could get jobs at legitimate law firms? You must be joking. 

Ststistics have proven going to law school has terrible ROI for most people .... I probably know a dozen people who went to law school ... all but 1 or 2 would admit it was a mistake. 

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3 minutes ago, Mjd33 said:

Started a long time ago .... too many people going to law school = too many future potential lawyers. It’s a supply and demand problem. There’s an abundance of lawyers out there and not enough legitimate legal work to do .... so you have a bunch of lawyers out there who need to make a living by representing some real low life’s out there. For example .... when someone  burns their tongue drinking hot coffee at McDonald’s, guys looking for financial settlement when asked to leave a Starbucks for not purchasing anything and getting arrested looking for a payout, providing legal advice to  some skank porn star, fake sexual harassment cases brought to you by Gloria Allred and daughter, you need more examples? 

You think any of the ACLU (anti Christian labor union lawyers ) could get jobs at legitimate law firms? You must be joking. 

Ststistics have proven going to law school has terrible ROI for most people .... I probably know a dozen people who went to law school ... all but 1 or 2 would admit it was a mistake. 

I understand but asked:

When did the laws on what you can sue for change?

I asked because you said "People can sue for anything these days" which implies that in the past they could not. 

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5 minutes ago, noonereal said:

I understand but asked:

When did the laws on what you can sue for change?

I asked because you said "People can sue for anything these days" which implies that in the past they could not. 

By the letter of the law you always probably “could” but lawyers weren’t desperate for work when supply was lower back a few decades. 

You think Stormy Daniels lawyer was in law school thinking I can’t wait to represent some skank who gets gang banged for a living? 

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2 minutes ago, Drummer61 said:

The far left owner of Sissybucks with all his liberal policies,fires the girl who followed rules, then  will close 800 store and will have Eric Holder  and other leftists explain ro "all" employees about race !!!!....!I hope "sissy bucks" goes broke...Liberalism really is a mental disorder.. 

How do you KNOW she followed all the rules?

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1 minute ago, Mjd33 said:

By the letter of the law you always probably “could” but lawyers weren’t desperate for work when supply was lower back a few decades. 

You think Stormy Daniels lawyer was in law school thinking I can’t wait to represent some skank who gets gang banged for a living? 

Ok, you misspoke. No big deal.

Question, can someone who brings a frivolous lawsuit be finned to cover court costs and lawyer fees? (or anything else as punishment?)

 

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1 minute ago, noonereal said:

why?

Noon, you are wasting your time with Drummer. He already has the whole situation as it occurred in his own mind down to a tee. Any deviation from what he thinks/believes to be true must, therefore, be wrong. 

If I were charged with a crime, I would not want someone with that kind of mindset in my jury. For, regardless of the evidence presented, I fear I would be found guilty since I fit into a particular stereotype.

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6 minutes ago, Drummer61 said:

The rules stated that you can't use restroom without buying something..They didn't so she called police as they just stayed and hung.. Kid was scared and did what she thought was right,,,  Give her a break and stop what your trying to do.. Those two guys will bode well after this, the kid got fired and imo she did what she thought was right...Look who works in those places....Young kids who don't know shit,get low pay and are dreamers...He should hire all blacks and make everybody happy, then go broke....

 

The mgr is not a kid...she is a grown woman.  This is about you and me in this conversation and what you believe to be FACT..

 But I do find it interesting you've crafted a story to fit your preexisitng beliefs.  It's called a bias and we all have them to a degree, the work is to recognize them and mitigate their impact whenever we can.  Go back and relook at your posts to see where you conveniently painted a pic to fit your beliefs.

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6 minutes ago, DarterBlue said:

Noon, you are wasting your time with Drummer. He already has the whole situation as it occurred in his own mind down to a tee. Any deviation from what he thinks/believes to be true must, therefore, be wrong. 

If I were charged with a crime, I would not want someone with that kind of mindset in my jury. For, regardless of the evidence presented, I fear I would be found guilty since I fit into a particular stereotype.

Exactly.   

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Just now, Drummer61 said:

You underestimate yourself as you do me... You forgot that I saved  two blacks while in service and also know what time it is...Your safe...🤙🤙

I would never talk about ones military service, but your language in the present doesn't exactly project unbiased thinking.

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1 hour ago, Drummer61 said:

Because they disobeyed the rules and maybe she thought robbery

That is a wild leap. 

Sounds like a psycho. 

Would you not agree?

"I saw someone jaywalk this morning so I shot them because I thought they would rob me."

 This may fly in Fl but not in the rest of the world. 

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No company has been more “woke” than Starbucks.  Remember writing “race together” on your cups?  And yet it has bought them nothing with the mob.  They are being treated like they are far-right wackos.  It is hilarious.  And I go to Starbucks all the time, their customer service here is impeccable.

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6 minutes ago, Bormio said:

No company has been more “woke” than Starbucks.  Remember writing “race together” on your cups?  And yet it has bought them nothing with the mob.  They are being treated like they are far-right wackos.  It is hilarious.  And I go to Starbucks all the time, their customer service here is impeccable.

To be fair, there is a reason that blacks think everything is about race. 

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2 minutes ago, noonereal said:

To be fair, there is a reason that blacks think everything is about race

Not all do. But there are probably times in every black person's life, while just going about normal activities, when something occurs, which leads them to believe that race did have something to do with a situation they are confronted with. As a society, it behooves all of us to try and move beyond this.

I think many of the under thirty five crowd are going in the right direction on both sides of the racial divide.  

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2 hours ago, noonereal said:

Ok, you misspoke. No big deal.

Question, can someone who brings a frivolous lawsuit be finned to cover court costs and lawyer fees? (or anything else as punishment?)

 

In some places in Europe (I think Germany and UK for example)  the losers of civil cases have to pay the legal expenses of the other party involved. 

If we started that in the US some of this shit would stop. 

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The former Starbucks manager whose telephone call initiated the controversial arrest of two African-American men at her downtown Philadelphia store told 911, “I have two gentlemen at my cafe that are refusing to make a purchase or leave,” according to the taped audio of the call released by police Tuesday.

Police then arrived and they were again asked, by the officers, to leave and they refused....ABC News.

What am I missing here? It's deemed loitering until asked to leave....if you refuse, it's trespassing.

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