dbcaptiron Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, TheBlockIsHot said: But all blacks seem to be jumping on the race card board in the media. Do you think that those police are withholding the names because they are activists or have had previous 'disturbances' ? or because they are 'lily white innocent' and the police are protecting 'them'.... Would their names be released if they were 'white' or non-black in such an instance ? Or is this some 'new double standard' being institutionalized before our eyes..... or are you a betting man? Golly gee.... conjecture is so much fun.... These guys would be toast if people placed their conjecture on them instead of everyone else would they not? Amazing that those that love to project only do it from 'one side'....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 hours ago, Horsefly said: Treated like everyone else huh! Well when am I going to see the opiod user communities locked up and war placed on them like it was with the urban crack epidemic? hell, there was a senator a few years back that said opiod users need rehab, not jail. However, that was not the case for crack users now was it? Wanna guess the primary demographic for the use of each those drugs? Exactly. Still going on too. Block thinks the law treats all the same so.. #winning 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 hours ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Personally we all need to get busy fucking and just eliminate the color issue altogether. I'm on it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted April 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 24 minutes ago, dbcaptiron said: Just saw this.... and would not want to be accused of being a hypocrite (like many are here) and not engage in the dialogue intent requested... I will say (eliminating blacks) is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in a while, think it utterly stupid to even consider or query, and bordering on repulsive to even ask..... People don't want Melanin eliminated, and if you were referring to their 'culture' it basically falls in line with what most people want in every mixed culture......Take the 'good' and leave the 'bad' ....Blacks (or anyone else) should not be expected to want to conform to any 'white suburb herion culture' any more than 'whites' (or anyone else) want no part of the old "black crack culture" does not even have anything to do with them being 'black' (or any other culture) when it comes to this. simple no? Care to elaborate? And as I said earlier, since black people are accused of using the race card all the time and white people being tired of it, would America be better off without the burden that it carries on its shoulders? The burden being black people to be exact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbcaptiron Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: First of all check your tone with me, my ass is not on the line for anything. Don't be an Internet tough guy. Don't know every fact of this incident, but they were not charged due to a lack of evidence of ANY crime, so the likelihood they trespassed is unlikely. No problem on the tone sir, as you have not run away like most... So.... you cannot even give an educated guess as to the query, and can only go so far as likelihoods? yet your first statement was an emphatic condemnation of others that you believe to be liars..... Do you actually believe you are viewing this thru a lens of equality? Projecting only from one side? Are you sure you are not merely exposing any true inner racism you may be beholding ?.... Amazing how those dialogues expose some real racism just like many here espouse.... isn't it? Do you think the style and manner with which you post is in any way supporting and spreading "that which you say you dialogue to mitigate"? I would propose that it does, and if you think not, you might want to probably reason as to why not. So if you can only muster assumptions and condemnation of one side, and only go as far as 'Likelihoods' on the other we will have to stick to another quick questions. How did those police get to escort those two out of the establishment if there were no laws currently being broken? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 20 minutes ago, World Citizen said: I'm on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 Communicate? Here? Nope, too busy being in boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 27 minutes ago, dbcaptiron said: No problem on the tone sir, as you have not run away like most... So.... you cannot even give an educated guess as to the query, and can only go so far as likelihoods? yet your first statement was an emphatic condemnation of others that you believe to be liars..... Do you actually believe you are viewing this thru a lens of equality? Projecting only from one side? Are you sure you are not merely exposing any true inner racism you may be beholding ?.... Amazing how those dialogues expose some real racism just like many here espouse.... isn't it? Do you think the style and manner with which you post is in any way supporting and spreading "that which you say you dialogue to mitigate"? I would propose that it does, and if you think not, you might want to probably reason as to why not. So if you can only muster assumptions and condemnation of one side, and only go as far as 'Likelihoods' on the other we will have to stick to another quick questions. How did those police get to escort those two out of the establishment if there were no laws currently being broken? Let me phrase so you understand where I'm coming from bc you and others like to get over dramatic with this stuff. I dont know all that happened, I'm going off of the reports and witnesses. I didn't condemn anyone for their position. I don't think you read all that I've said on this subject either. i stated it was not trespassing as it doesn't fit the definition, not sure what else you want. From there I don't need to speculate much, the DA found no evidence of a crime, even after the guys were arrested and booked. The cops can escort them as they have the authority to do so and the guys may have been compliant so as to not escalate it and wind up getting shot. I said the issue being raised is implicit bias, So there you have it.... what I do think is there was an overreaction over nothing. 1. The guys were waiting on a friend like they said 2. 5-6 cops show up which is ridiculous! 3. The DA found no evidence of a crime, no loitering, trespassing, disorderly conduct, resisting arrest. Complete overkill that had folks waited the extra 5 min till the friend showed up, there would not have been an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbcaptiron Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: Care to elaborate? And as I said earlier, since black people are accused of using the race card all the time and white people being tired of it, would America be better off without the burden that it carries on its shoulders? The burden being black people to be exact. What makes you think any 'black burden' is any heavier than the 'white burden' ? Each has their own strengths and weakness.... Does not make either more of a burden (and especially not as related to 'individuals' which is always EXTREMELY varied ). Best case scenario could never occur without the input of all.... Those that think they are best off in this world by themselves, will have something missing. As far as race card, you know it's used the same as everyone else knows racism exists....Both sides like to clam there is a higher percentage of it than there really is....it serves their 'purposes' remember? Most People I know find it just as repulsive as racism itself, as they both corrode like cancer and divide in the EXACT same fashion. Race card without validation = Racism .....would you not agree? I see those as equals as well... Just another .02 cents, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbcaptiron Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 12 minutes ago, Horsefly said: Let me phrase so you understand where I'm coming from bc you and others like to get over dramatic with this stuff. I dont know all that happened, I'm going off of the reports and witnesses. I didn't condemn anyone for their position. I don't think you read all that I've said on this subject either. i stated it was not trespassing as it doesn't fit the definition, not sure what else you want. From there I don't need to speculate much, the DA found no evidence of a crime, even after the guys were arrested and booked. The cops can escort them as they have the authority to do so and the guys may have been compliant so as to not escalate it and wind up getting shot. HOWEVER, it was reported that after their friend showed up he asked if they could just leave and go to another establishment and the cops replied "no they can't leave, thing are beyond that now". I said the issue being raised is implicit bias, So there you have it.... So let me get this straight.... It's not Trespassing because you are going by 'witness accounts', where by you conveniently choose to ELIMINATE the most key witness testimony of the manager where in "he asks them to leave" and they don't, which is the VERY DEFINITION of TRESSPASSING whether arrested or not...... Yeah ok.....I got that one.... Anything else YOU would like to add?.... 12 minutes ago, Horsefly said: I said the issue being raised is implicit bias, So there you have it.... Well it is here that I would definitely agree with you.... ...and as you ask me to 'check myself', I would also ask you to do the same... Since your 'dialogue' here....expresses, espouses, and promotes... what you claim to be against... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 16, 2018 Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 17 minutes ago, dbcaptiron said: So let me get this straight.... It's not Trespassing because you are going by 'witness accounts', where by you conveniently choose to ELIMINATE the most key witness testimony of the manager where in "he asks them to leave" and they don't, which is the VERY DEFINITION of TRESSPASSING whether arrested or not...... Yeah ok.....I got that one.... Anything else YOU would like to add?.... Well it is here that I would definitely agree with you.... ...and as you ask me to 'check myself', I would also ask you to do the same... Since your 'dialogue' here....expresses, espouses, and promotes... what you claim to be against... it's not trespasing bc it doesnt fit the definition, that's LOITERING! again, they weren't charged with any of this for lack of evidence, so what else do we want to legally hold them liable for?(for these men to be charged with something would have been the stores mgrs saving grace) you seem to want me to see the other side of the coin that the guys committed some criminal act, I don't see it, that's a stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted April 16, 2018 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, dbcaptiron said: What makes you think any 'black burden' is any heavier than the 'white burden' ? Each has their own strengths and weakness.... Does not make either more of a burden (and especially not as related to 'individuals' which is always EXTREMELY varied ). Best case scenario could never occur without the input of all.... Those that think they are best off in this world by themselves, will have something missing. As far as race card, you know it's used the same as everyone else knows racism exists....Both sides like to clam there is a higher percentage of it than there really is....it serves their 'purposes' remember? Most People I know find it just as repulsive as racism itself, as they both corrode like cancer and divide in the EXACT same fashion. Race card without validation = Racism .....would you not agree? I see those as equals as well... Just another .02 cents, I guess. I agree. As far as the burden thing? I mean.... black people are seen as problematic by caucasians, right? I'm pretty sure if caucasians had their way, they'd do away with the black burden. This goes all the way back to the slave days. Imagine if slavery didn't happen.... the relationships between whites and blacks would be soooooooo much better don't you think? And another thing: the KKK. They'll dispose of a black person any chance they get. Now you can't tell me that blacks aren't seen as dead weight in their eyes. It's all about "white power"...right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbcaptiron Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 5 hours ago, Horsefly said: it's not trespasing bc it doesnt fit the definition, that's LOITERING! Sorry sir but you are 'full of shit'... and a fairly shit version you've concocted for a 'Trespass' definition, to try and suit your own needs.. First part of solving any problem is knowing the problem right? So again I state... if you are asked to leave and refuse, you are willfully engaging in DEFIANT TRESPASS. After actually assaulting a man's ability to feed his family, by putting his own livelihood in peril. If you think this 'overly dramatic' ..then perhaps you could explain why you think so. You can argue that 'your boys' didn't do much and I would agree, but there can be far greater unseen impact coming from 'not much'. If you cannot see this affront to society then you would be a fool as well. You would think that there would be at least ONE respectable black man who would admit this fault. Instead of running with false narrative, conjecture, and condemnation of one side while 'blind eyeing' your own. 5 hours ago, Horsefly said: again, they weren't charged with any of this for lack of evidence.... So can we call you a straight up liar here? or is false narrative more your liking.... Any true narrative would include the fact that this ""LACK OF EVIDENCE" was in fact... Company upper management's decision not to 'commit' to pursuing it....AS IN...wait for it.... NO WITNESS, NO EVIDENCE ... yes even after local management had good cause, and even after those very same cops (that you love to hold as proof) had good cause as well. 5 hours ago, Horsefly said: so what else do we want to legally hold them liable for? Me personally? Nothing ...as long as they relate to authorities that they understand the positions they put those store employees in, and indicate in the future that they will try to handle things differently.... No one was physically injured here, and it is a simple trespass based off of misunderstanding.....that is now understood Note: When you highlighted my 'charges shouldn't be dropped' you will see that it was in response to if 2 white guys did it....as there, any 'misunderstanding' would have to be quantified, which is not so easily done. Also stated that this is what I would expect, if I were to do it. 5 hours ago, Horsefly said: (for these men to be charged with something would have been the stores mgrs saving grace) Now this one is just 'super sweet' .... So very fitting and sweet of you to base your 'condemnation' of that very same man who's livelihood was threatened by the actions of 'your boys', as being 'proven' by a lack of support by upper management to quell 'your boys' hissy fit shitstorm. No that could never happen to you either...upper management not backing up lowers on a valid claim, for political or other reasons. Tar and feathers anyone? at the very least he's a proven liar right? 5 hours ago, Horsefly said: you seem to want me to see the other side of the coin that the guys committed some criminal act, I don't see it, that's a stretch. Still 'seem' that way?.... so show me where anything is a S T R E T C H..... I have certainly shown you where and how yours go well beyond that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbcaptiron Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 5 hours ago, FootballGuy said: I agree. As far as the burden thing? I mean.... black people are seen as problematic by caucasians, right? I'm pretty sure if caucasians had their way, they'd do away with the black burden. This goes all the way back to the slave days. Imagine if slavery didn't happen.... the relationships between whites and blacks would be soooooooo much better don't you think? And another thing: the KKK. They'll dispose of a black person any chance they get. Now you can't tell me that blacks aren't seen as dead weight in their eyes. It's all about "white power"...right? Honestly i really see it as more of a 'culture' thing for most....They don't like the ghetto, they don't like drugs, they don't like crime etc. etc. These are the real issues whites have, and anyone associated with them will be met with disdain, not just black.... You should see the looks on some faces (of only SOME people) when I tell people I'm from Paterson, yes they will change drastically....so whitey gets it too To me those 'tells' are a huge advantage....in telling me who the good people are.... and seriously, who the hell doesn't know that there are good and bad in every group? Hate to say it for you but the days of 'complaining about slavery' are GONE...Nobody alive is accepting any responsibility for the sins of past generations bad management, at least not personally and man to man. I don't think there are many that oppose inclusionary tactics but most find quota systems to be BS and as bad as any other 'institutionalized racism' legislation. And the KKK are crack. Universally denounced by everyone, and so miniscule in size as to be transparent and totally of the radar. Most people have a hard time believing they still even exist. I do live in NJ tho... where if one pops up or names their kid 'Adolf Hitler' they'll just take all their kids away and call them crazy, and lock em up... or try to (you can look that one up ) Other places YMMV i guess... and nah...it ain't about white power at all .....you would get a good chuckle if you try to use that phrase....most just are more pissed off that everyone sees all this comotion and fuss, and feel like everyone is trying to blame them, everyone's a protected group but them, and then they all look around an go ....who's being the asshole guys....not me ...not me....not me and most wold be speaking the truth....so then they all sit around and go WTF? This is all Bullshit Even the kids will be the first to roll their eyes in disbelief, the MSM and the pounding of it is so overdone on them, they are like yeah whatever... I not gonna hear any of this or argue any BS cause that ain't me...... they are just kids and could care less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 hours ago, dbcaptiron said: Sorry sir but you are 'full of shit'... and a fairly shit version you've concocted for a 'Trespass' definition, to try and suit your own needs.. First part of solving any problem is knowing the problem right? So again I state... if you are asked to leave and refuse, you are willfully engaging in DEFIANT TRESPASS. After actually assaulting a man's ability to feed his family, by putting his own livelihood in peril. If you think this 'overly dramatic' ..then perhaps you could explain why you think so. You can argue that 'your boys' didn't do much and I would agree, but there can be far greater unseen impact coming from 'not much'. If you cannot see this affront to society then you would be a fool as well. You would think that there would be at least ONE respectable black man who would admit this fault. Instead of running with false narrative, conjecture, and condemnation of one side while 'blind eyeing' your own. So can we call you a straight up liar here? or is false narrative more your liking.... Any true narrative would include the fact that this ""LACK OF EVIDENCE" was in fact... Company upper management's decision not to 'commit' to pursuing it....AS IN...wait for it.... NO WITNESS, NO EVIDENCE ... yes even after local management had good cause, and even after those very same cops (that you love to hold as proof) had good cause as well. Me personally? Nothing ...as long as they relate to authorities that they understand the positions they put those store employees in, and indicate in the future that they will try to handle things differently.... No one was physically injured here, and it is a simple trespass based off of misunderstanding.....that is now understood Note: When you highlighted my 'charges shouldn't be dropped' you will see that it was in response to if 2 white guys did it....as there, any 'misunderstanding' would have to be quantified, which is not so easily done. Also stated that this is what I would expect, if I were to do it. Now this one is just 'super sweet' .... So very fitting and sweet of you to base your 'condemnation' of that very same man who's livelihood was threatened by the actions of 'your boys', as being 'proven' by a lack of support by upper management to quell 'your boys' hissy fit shitstorm. No that could never happen to you either...upper management not backing up lowers on a valid claim, for political or other reasons. Tar and feathers anyone? at the very least he's a proven liar right? Still 'seem' that way?.... so show me where anything is a S T R E T C H..... I have certainly shown you where and how yours go well beyond that. Instead of looking at the facts (they were not charged for lack of evidence) you WANT to find them guilty of something. ( Not surprised ) If there's all these facts of them committing a crime why didnt the mgr want to go forward with filing a complaint? (she went through with calling the police, why not see the process through). that's an odd move to make A lack of evidence does not = the accuser didnt want to file. The latter would be sufficient for an explanation by itself. The DA already had the police's account of events (they were witnesses to the men allegedly refusing to leave even upon their request) Yes, the witnesses are critical, they are the ones actually leading the protest and NOT the men. The witnesses have nothing materially at stake. the stretch' ' claim is not made bc mgt didn't support her, the DA didn't either on a simple misdemeanor for ANY crime. come back when you have more facts, then we can reassess. Right now you're speculating these guys into a crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Horsefly said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, Horsefly said: If there's all these facts of them committing a crime why didnt the mgr want to go forward with filing a complaint? (she went through with calling the police, why not see the process through). that's an odd move to make Not at all. Starbucks is aware of the confirmation bias at play so in a strategic decision they decided the lest harmful way to handle the situation was to shaft the store manager and crew at the one location. It's pretty obvious the shots were being called from the home office not the local store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, noonereal said: Not at all. Starbucks is aware of the confirmation bias at play so in a strategic decision they decided the lest harmful way to handle the situation was to shaft the store manager and crew at the one location. It's pretty obvious the shots were being called from the home office not the local store. This was a simple misdemeanor not a murder! Doubtful HQ made the call. But that doesn't stop you from overreach...Now you want us to believe it was all a shaft and a conspiracy ... 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, Horsefly said: Doubtful HQ made the call. I am speechless. but Good morning and gave a great day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, noonereal said: I am speechless. but Good morning and gave a great day! You try too hard sometimes, this is one of those times. have a good day too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, Drummer61 said: Scumbag.. Well, Johnny Cash didn’t have the lyrics to fit my repose. 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbcaptiron Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Horsefly said: Instead of looking at the facts (they were not charged for lack of evidence) you WANT to find them guilty of something. ( Not surprised ) Oh I have very much looked at the fact of non-charge. What is very much a STRETCH (or what one might consider a flat out lie to anyone who is smart enough to realize) is that whether someone is ever charged or even punished is entirely irrelevant to whether in FACT a societal crime was ever comited or not......this is the very basic, very logical universal truth.......the one you would love others to ignore...you certainly are.....So are you in fact the worst of liars?......or just plain old stupid? (yes not surprised) 7 hours ago, Horsefly said: If there's all these facts of them committing a crime why didnt the mgr want to go forward with filing a complaint? (she went through with calling the police, why not see the process through). that's an odd move to make So are you STILL lying or just being stupid here as well? So what are the managers real choices? So ODD of a move to make? Your choice A) give up your livelihood (and ability to feed your family) or B) not pursue a very minor incident where no real immediate harm has occurred. You must be to stupid to in fact even consider that if she pursued it, how many people in this 'political atmosphere' would ever want to hire her again? AGAIN ... So very sweet of you to condemn someone.....for the very same benevolence of not pursuing minor assaults to her livelihood... Yes..."a very odd move" ...by you .....lying or just stupid? 7 hours ago, Horsefly said: A lack of evidence does not = the accuser didnt want to file. The latter would be sufficient for an explanation by itself. The DA already had the police's account of events (they were witnesses to the men allegedly refusing to leave even upon their request) Yes, the witnesses are critical, they are the ones actually leading the protest and NOT the men. The witnesses have nothing materially at stake. So is this the part where you try to 'explain off' your stupid lies? ...aaaaand the elbows connected to the shin bone, shin bones connected to the dumb brain... THE POLICE DO NOT WANT TO FILE CHARGES...they CHOOSE not to pursue it...CYA says 'no evidence'...so they don't have to hear it from the 'other side'....again if there were no evidence 'at the scene', they would never have been hauled off.... You try and take the benevolence that society gives you (after basically spitting in their face) and hold it against them to claim your own innocence......NICE JOB.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, dbcaptiron said: Oh I have very much looked at the fact of non-charge. What is very much a STRETCH (or what one might consider a flat out lie to anyone who is smart enough to realize) is that whether someone is ever charged or even punished is entirely irrelevant to whether in FACT a crime was ever comited or not......this is the very basic, very logical universal truth.......the you would love others to ignore...you certainly are.....So are you in fact the worst of liars?......or just plain old stupid? (yes not surprised) So are you STILL lying or just being stupid here as well? So what are the managers real choices? So ODD of a move to make? Your choice A) give up your livelihood (and ability to feed your family) or B) not pursue a very minor incident where no real immediate harm has occurred. You must be to stupid to in fact even consider that if she pursued it, how many people in this 'political atmosphere' would ever want to hire her again? AGAIN ... So very sweet of you to condemn someone.....for the very same benevolence of not pursuing minor assaults to her livelihood... Yes..."a very odd move" ...by you .....lying or just stupid? So is this the part where you try to 'explain off' your stupid lies? ...aaaaand the elbows connected to the shin bone, shin bones connected to the dumb brain... THE POLICE DO NOT WANT TO FILE CHARGES...they CHOOSE not to pursue it...CYA says 'no evidence'...so they don't have to hear it from the 'other side'....again if there were no evidence 'at the scene', they would never have been hauled off.... You try and take the benevolence that society gives you (after basically spitting in their face) and hold it against them to claim your own innocence......NICE JOB.... tldr you seem to be too unhinged, and immature, not worth the discussion. You're probably about to start using racial epithets here shortly like you did with Nut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbcaptiron Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 24 minutes ago, Horsefly said: tldr you seem to be too unhinged, not worth the discussion. You're probably about to start using racial epithets here shortly like you did with Nut. Oh yeah that 's sure gonna help you....such a winner... I told you before ....That's YOUR ASS on the line....funny how you interpret it as me being 'tough guy' .... CLUE: YOUR ASS is what I'm LOOKING at as you run away and refuse to face YOUR OWN TRUTHS.....and YOUR ASS that needs to live life and make hard choices......(not something I would care to assault) If you would like me to use racial epithets I certainly can .....that is of course what you are trying to promote here is it not? Incite hatred and violence, make people 'feel' what you feel etc. etc. You claim you want dialogue yet can not even sit HONESTLY at the table and admit your own faults.... Run away and go fool someone else.... You are not doing a very good job here... I think I finally figured out why they call you HORSE Always beating a dead one, and giving nothing but false pretense speeches.... in the name of 'dialogue'...... Sounds to me like it's not an either/or here.....You are a liar AND stupid..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted April 17, 2018 Report Share Posted April 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, dbcaptiron said: Oh yeah that 's sure gonna help you....such a winner... I told you before ....That's YOUR ASS on the line....funny how you interpret it as me being 'tough guy' .... CLUE: YOUR ASS is what I'm LOOKING at as you run away and refuse to face YOUR OWN TRUTHS.....and YOUR ASS that needs to live life and make hard choices......(not something I would care to assault) If you would like me to use racial epithets I certainly can .....that is of course what you are trying to promote here is it not? Incite hatred and violence, make people 'feel' what you feel etc. etc. You claim you want dialogue yet can not even sit HONESTLY at the table and admit your own faults.... Run away and go fool someone else.... You are not doing a very good job here... I think I finally figured out why they call you HORSE Always beating a dead one, and giving nothing but false pretense speeches.... in the name of 'dialogue'...... Sounds to me like it's not an either or here.....You are a liar AND stupid..... DCP, you've said really nothing but lair and stupid repeatedly. You're making the same points over and over and speculating on most...again. you have no self control nor discipline that's why you lose it like you do. If you're not stalking folks around the forum you're calling names. Nonetheless, at the end of the day, the guys aren't being charged for anything and will get a big payday.. Unless the facts change....deal with it! #winning. 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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