Blueliner Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: Define "help" in NBA terms. I'm getting sick of people saying that lebron doesn't have any help when he does. Of course he’s not a one man team, but other than Kyrie ( who was injured most of the time), he’s had scrap heap guys. This isnt a testament to how good Lebron is as much as the NBA knows where their bread is buttered, and ensures he’s in the Finals every year. Jordan had Pippen, the Grant brothers, Kucoc, Longley, Cartwright, Kerr, Harper, Armstrong, etc. All really good players. Lebron has nobody. Maybe Korver 5 years ago. They’ve played pretty much shitty all year, have made trades, been in turmoil because their coach sucks...yet here they are coming out of the east to the Finals after scoring 85 points in a game 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 18 minutes ago, CCBlackhatter said: If he were playing on a team that could actually hit open shots, then he probably goes for a triple double more times than not. Say what you want, but Lebron could go to any team in the West and still be the best player on the court. Put him on the Warriors or Rockets and he would already have more rings than Jordan and all the haters would be without the only argument they so desperately cling to... 6 rings. The east is a total joke. Bottom line. JV league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 36 minutes ago, CCBlackhatter said: If he were playing on a team that could actually hit open shots, then he probably goes for a triple double more times than not. Say what you want, but Lebron could go to any team in the West and still be the best player on the court. Put him on the Warriors or Rockets and he would already have more rings than Jordan and all the haters would be without the only argument they so desperately cling to... 6 rings. Then it would be he jumps to teams. LeBron will be viewed in a much better light in 10-15 years after he retires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 45 minutes ago, Blueliner said: ...and I find I interesting that Jordan, despite averaging 35 points/game for about 4 years, couldn’t even sniff the Finals until he got some serious help. And yet Lebron continues to make it to Finals with shit players around him (minus Irving). Hmmmm🤔 That's cause he jacked up a ton of shots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, steeler01 said: That's cause he jacked up a ton of shots. Yeah he did. No argument here. But look what happened once he had some help. If not for his gambling issues, the Bulls woulda likely won 8 straight. Seriously, minus Kyrie, have the Cavs has anyone that is a winner that can play 2nd fiddle to Lebron on a consistent basis? Love? Many be sort of. The point is that LBJ is a damn good player that has clearly benefitted from playing in a shitty conference. Back when MJ was killing it, th east was stronger conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 Just now, Blueliner said: Yeah he did. No argument here. But look what happened once he had some help. If not for his gambling issues, the Bulls woulda likely won 8 straight. Seriously, minus Kyrie, have the Cavs has anyone that is a winner that can play 2nd fiddle to Lebron on a consistent basis? Love? Many be sort of. The point is that LBJ is a damn good player that has clearly benefitted from playing in a shitty conference. I'm not arguing against anything of what you posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 Copy that, Mr. Steeler. 19 minutes ago, steeler01 said: I'm not arguing against anything of what you posted. Copy that, Mr. Steeler. Hard to tell with posts sometimes. My bad. Hope you’re enjoying your long weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, FolsomPrisonBlues said: The east is a total joke. Bottom line. JV league. Doesn't change the fact that what I said is 100% gospel. Outside of 2 teams, the West doesn't have much to offer either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, CCBlackhatter said: Doesn't change the fact that what I said is 100% gospel. Outside of 2 teams, the West doesn't have much to offer either. The bottom 3 teams in the west playoffs are number one seeds in the JV east. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 minute ago, CCBlackhatter said: Doesn't change the fact that what I said is 100% gospel. Outside of 2 teams, the West doesn't have much to offer either. The whole league has become a super team based sports league... But its funny how they talk about the east.... The west aint exactly doing that great either.... The east has Cleveland and Boston And the west has GS and Houston. Thats about it... The clippers are falling off big The lakers.... lol... I'll leave that alone... Everyone outside of them is either average or bad... And then it doesnt help that almost every star in the west wants to go to the Warriors... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Blueliner said: Of course he’s not a one man team, but other than Kyrie ( who was injured most of the time), he’s had scrap heap guys. This isnt a testament to how good Lebron is as much as the NBA knows where their bread is buttered, and ensures he’s in the Finals every year. Jordan had Pippen, the Grant brothers, Kucoc, Longley, Cartwright, Kerr, Harper, Armstrong, etc. All really good players. Lebron has nobody. Maybe Korver 5 years ago. They’ve played pretty much shitty all year, have made trades, been in turmoil because their coach sucks...yet here they are coming out of the east to the Finals after scoring 85 points in a game 7. Kevin Love (an all star) doesn't exist anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMaximumHornetSting Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 12 minutes ago, FolsomPrisonBlues said: The bottom 3 teams in the west playoffs are number one seeds in the JV east. You should really stay out of this... the bottom 3 in the east did better than the west... The bottom 3 in the west would be in the bottom of the east Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 7 hours ago, Blueliner said: I don’t hate the guy. He’s just highly likely not clean. Dude’s an awesome player. Always has been. But I see him in the same light as Clemens, Bonds, etc. Guys that actually got better in the years that you’re suppose to be in decline. Remember a few years ago when the league was supposedly going to start testing more agreessively? He came into the season down like 30-40 lbs. He sucked ass!! Went out on a “back injury”. Came back 8 or so weeks later HUGE again. Immediate domination and been like they since. And the league hasn’t suspended any player for PEDs. Go figure. He’s actually bigger now than in his twenties. He’s never sucked ass so prove your theory here Einstein ! othewise YOU suck some ass 😩 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 22 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: Kevin Love (an all star) doesn't exist anymore? I did mention him in an earlier post. But...Love is a hot mess. I’m sooooo glad the Dubs didn’t give up Klay for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 19 minutes ago, hardhit1 said: He’s never sucked ass so prove your theory here Einstein ! othewise YOU suck some ass 😩 I’ve already proved my “theory”. He came in all skinny. Every freaking talking head covering the NBA was like, “look at him, he’s all lean and mean, trying to get quicker bla bla bla”. He was terrible through X-mas. ....you know the rest of my “theory”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCBlackhatter Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, FolsomPrisonBlues said: The bottom 3 teams in the west playoffs are number one seeds in the JV east. Explain how they would be 1 seeds with 34 and 35 losses... Do you ever fact check anything before you spew your diarrhea? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, TheMaximumHornetSting said: You should really stay out of this... the bottom 3 in the east did better than the west... The bottom 3 in the west would be in the bottom of the east They had a better record because they are mainly playing against the week east. The East is a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 minute ago, CCBlackhatter said: Explain how they would be 1 seeds with 34 and 35 losses... Do you ever fact check anything before you spew your diarrhea? Go look at who the are mainly playing. LeBron stays in the east because it's a JV league and he can get to the finals. Enjoy the varsity game tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, Blueliner said: I’ve already proved my “theory”. He came in all skinny. Every freaking talking head covering the NBA was like, “look at him, he’s all lean and mean, trying to get quicker bla bla bla”. He was terrible through X-mas. ....you know the rest of my “theory”. Just a fricken hater we dont need any haters on the Board fly your kite somewhere else, would all appreciate it if you can’t prove it don’t speculate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueliner Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 minute ago, hardhit1 said: Just a fricken hater we dont need any haters on the Board fly your kite somewhere else, would all appreciate it if you can’t prove it don’t speculate Relax, Sport. Ive been flying my life around these parts a lot longer than you. I’m not asking you to love every person/team that I like. Feel free to tell me any of my team/players suck....and you can stay....free of charge. I can speculate all that I want. Lebron juices imho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hardhit1 Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 8 minutes ago, Blueliner said: Relax, Sport. Ive been flying my life around these parts a lot longer than you. I’m not asking you to love every person/team that I like. Feel free to tell me any of my team/players suck....and you can stay....free of charge. I can speculate all that I want. Lebron juices imho. Dude, you are not even in my league but thanks for trying you Are just bad at facts like the National Enquirer 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted May 28, 2018 Report Share Posted May 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Blueliner said: I did mention him in an earlier post. But...Love is a hot mess. I’m sooooo glad the Dubs didn’t give up Klay for him. So we know that most of the greatest players that won rings had an all star sidekick. Well, as soon as kyrie leaves cleveland, the narrative is "lebron doesn't have any help," but everybody wants to conveniently forget about K. Love (5 time all star)... so it ain't like lebron doesn't have any all star talent to work with. I just get tired of the whiole lebron and no help narrative. It's bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 8 hours ago, Horsefly said: The league widened the free throw lane bc of Mikan (‘51) and chamberlain (‘64) Other rules attributed to wilt ....you can't inbound the ball by lobbing it over the backboard to the front of the rim.You are not allowed to dunk your free throws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 16 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: So we know that most of the greatest players that won rings had an all star sidekick. Well, as soon as kyrie leaves cleveland, the narrative is "lebron doesn't have any help," but everybody wants to conveniently forget about K. Love (5 time all star)... so it ain't like lebron doesn't have any all star talent to work with. I just get tired of the whiole lebron and no help narrative. It's bullshit. Kevin Love is trash. He had no business being an all star in 2017 nor 2018. The guy plays no defense and is mediocre on offense(No moves) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted May 29, 2018 Report Share Posted May 29, 2018 LeBron had to cover his tats for this ESPN tilt. Vitale and Walton comments among others like the Oak Hill HC I found quite interesting. Walton’s comment , “I couldn’t dunk.. (College rules) made me a better player.” Good watch and listen imo. That energy and drive they spoke about hasn’t wavered. I think what may irk some folks about James was the “taking my talents to Miami” and the “not one, not two, not three... (feel like Count Dracula The Count Sesame Street lol) prime time announcement w Wade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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