Trump's world....

[Warrior]

19 minutes ago, SeaShells21 said:

I don’t know 🤷🏻‍♀️ 

Being an idiot?

Good1 SS! We know you didn’t know.

[concha]

 

[RedZone]

1 hour ago, concha said:

 

Seems like a very small price to pay to NOT watch donald and putin fuck each other in that twisted love affair...

 

[Slotback Right]

 

[DBP66]

2 hours ago, Slotback Right said:

 

LOL...sure he did Natasha!.....🙄

[DBP66]

[DBP66]

[Warrior]

I don't know who needs to hear this but Biden just vetoed a bill that was passed by both the House and Senate that would've protected Americans' retirement funds from being wasted on ESG-backed investments. The globalist with the win. 

[Crusader12-0]

11 hours ago, DBP66 said:

I’m not voting to kill democracy, I’m voting to put the needs of our countrymen first. What happens in other countries is their responsibility alone and no one else’s. I will choose isolationism over warfare every time.  
 
I’m not too concerned about the prospect of Russia taking over all of Europe. Russia has a long history of taking care of leaders that go too far. If Putin continues to F around he’ll eventually find out. 

[DBP66]

1 minute ago, Crusader12-0 said:

I’m not voting to kill democracy, I’m voting to put the needs of our countrymen first. What happens in other countries is their responsibility alone and no one else’s. I will choose isolationism over warfare every time.  
 
I’m not too concerned about the prospect of Russia taking over all of Europe. Russia has a long history of taking care of leaders that go too far. If Putin continues to F around he’ll eventually find out. 

we have two concerns as Americans...domestic and foreign...it has always been our policy to stand up for Democracies around the world. We have a crazy dictator stealing children and killing civilians. As the leader of the world America and the 104 other countries who denounce this need to stand up to a brutal dictator who is our enemy...you can't/don't sit on the sidelines when your needed.

[Warrior]

24 minutes ago, DBP66 said:

we have two concerns as Americans...domestic and foreign...it has always been our policy to stand up for Democracies around the world. We have a crazy dictator stealing children and killing civilians. As the leader of the world America and the 104 other countries who denounce this need to stand up to a brutal dictator who is our enemy...you can't/don't sit on the sidelines when your needed.

Regime change wars haven’t worked out very well the last 30 years for America and the American soldier. See Iraq, Libya and Syria to name a few.

This is the war/propaganda machine at work. 

[DBP66]

[I AM IRONMAN]

20 hours ago, Crusader12-0 said:

I’m not voting to kill democracy, I’m voting to put the needs of our countrymen first. What happens in other countries is their responsibility alone and no one else’s. I will choose isolationism over warfare every time.  
 
I’m not too concerned about the prospect of Russia taking over all of Europe. Russia has a long history of taking care of leaders that go too far. If Putin continues to F around he’ll eventually find out. 

Taking over all of Europe?? They can’t even take Ukraine!😂

[World Citizen]

20 hours ago, DBP66 said:

we have two concerns as Americans...domestic and foreign...it has always been our policy to stand up for Democracies around the world. We have a crazy dictator stealing children and killing civilians. As the leader of the world America and the 104 other countries who denounce this need to stand up to a brutal dictator who is our enemy...you can't/don't sit on the sidelines when your needed.

That is exactly what our last President did.  Steal children (with the added benefit of putting them in cages) and killing civilians (google pandemic response).   

I wonder if these people who do not want to help our allies today would have thought the same thing before we entered WW2.  NATO kind of requires that the United States back our allies, I think.  Lol@warrior for having any opinion on anything.  

 

 

[World Citizen]

20 hours ago, Crusader12-0 said:

I’m not voting to kill democracy, I’m voting to put the needs of our countrymen first. What happens in other countries is their responsibility alone and no one else’s. I will choose isolationism over warfare every time.  
 
I’m not too concerned about the prospect of Russia taking over all of Europe. Russia has a long history of taking care of leaders that go too far. If Putin continues to F around he’ll eventually find out. 

Both can be done.  It always comes down to choices.  Right?  If we can't take some money we give to corporations and ridiculously rich people we can 100% take some from what we spend on defense.  Also, it is the only agency that is never audited, I think.  The enormity of what we spend and HOW we spend it is nearly impossible to undo but the money is there.  Comes down to choices.  Let's say you had the money, what would you spend the money on?  How would the average citizen benefit?  Student loan forgiveness?  Republicans shot that down.  School lunches?  Republicans have never supported that.  What would Republicans support?  SNAP benefits?  Tax breaks?  

Serious questions.  

[DBP66]

37 minutes ago, World Citizen said:

That is exactly what our last President did.  Steal children (with the added benefit of putting them in cages) and killing civilians (google pandemic response).   

I wonder if these people who do not want to help our allies today would have thought the same thing before we entered WW2.  NATO kind of requires that the United States back our allies, I think.  Lol@warrior for having any opinion on anything.  

 

 

I was going to mention NATO but I knew it would fall on deaf ears...😉

[Warrior]

49 minutes ago, World Citizen said:

That is exactly what our last President did.  Steal children (with the added benefit of putting them in cages) and killing civilians (google pandemic response).   

I wonder if these people who do not want to help our allies today would have thought the same thing before we entered WW2.  NATO kind of requires that the United States back our allies, I think.  Lol@warrior for having any opinion on anything.  

 

 

Wow, this maybe the most inaccurate assessment I’ve read in a long time. Especially from someone who goes by the screen name World Citizen. Always found that interesting- are you a we are the world globalist? Curious. Google who built those cages and who was the first president to use them. I’ll give you a hint his last name ends in _bama. 
 

Next Ukraine isn’t part of NATO and is a useful tool to the US at best. This is a Proxy war people with our fingerprints all over it. America and the world is run by a small group of globalists. 100% a propaganda war. Why isn’t any asking about the Nord Stream pipeline anymore? Magically disappeared. Read about the Minsk accords, Ukraine had a peace deal in place and the CIA got in bed with Ukraine and started bombing Donbas and everything has gone sideways since. We are the puppet masters. Kirby, Sullivan, Blinkin and Nuland are the same useful idiots that lied about the Iraq war, lied about Libya and Syria. Obama dropped so many bombs on Syria we ran out of bombs. Look it up. We are doing the same Proxy regime change BS now. 

[DBP66]

Sources: Special counsel claims Trump deliberately misled his attorneys about classified documents, judge wrote

 

KATHERINE FAULDERS, ALEXANDER MALLIN and LUCIEN BRUGGEMAN

Tue, March 21, 2023 at 6:10 PM EDT

 

 

Prosecutors in the special counsel's office have presented compelling preliminary evidence that former President Donald Trump knowingly and deliberately misled his own attorneys about his retention of classified materials after leaving office, a former top federal judge wrote Friday in a sealed filing, according to sources who described its contents to ABC News.

U.S. Judge Beryl Howell, who on Friday stepped down as the D.C. district court's chief judge, wrote last week that prosecutors in special counsel Jack Smith's office had made a "prima facie showing that the former president had committed criminal violations," according to the sources, and that attorney-client privileges invoked by two of his lawyers could therefore be pierced.

Trump has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing in his handling of classified documents.

In her sealed filing, Howell ordered that Evan Corcoran, an attorney for Trump, should comply with a grand jury subpoena for testimony on six separate lines of inquiry over which he had previously asserted attorney-client privilege.

Sources added that Howell also ordered Corcoran to hand over a number of records tied to what Howell described as Trump's alleged "criminal scheme," echoing prosecutors. Those records include handwritten notes, invoices, and transcriptions of personal audio recordings.

In reaching the so-called prima facie standard to pierce Corcoran's privilege, Howell agreed prosecutors made a sufficient showing that on its face would appear to show Trump committed crimes. The judge made it clear that prosecutors would still need to meet a higher standard of evidence in order to seek charges against Trump, and more still to prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

"It is a lower hurdle, but it is an indication that the government had presented some evidence and allegation that they had evidence that met the elements of a crime," Brandon Van Grack, a former top national security official in the Justice Department who is now in private practice, told ABC News.

 

PHOTO: FILE - The legal team of former US President Donald Trump, led by M. Evan Corcoran, arrives at the Brooklyn Federal Courthouse, Sept. 20, 2022 in New York City. (Alex Kent/Getty Images, FILE)

Howell found that prosecutors showed "sufficient" evidence that Trump "intentionally concealed" the existence of additional classified documents from Corcoran, sources said, putting Corcoran in an unwitting position to deceive the government.

It's unclear what evidence Howell may have reviewed under seal from both DOJ and Trump's attorneys to help her arrive at her decision.

In response to ABC News, a Trump campaign spokesperson said, in part, "Shame on Fake News ABC for broadcasting ILLEGALLY LEAKED false allegations from a Never Trump, now former chief judge, against the Trump legal team."

"The real story here, that Fake News ABC SHOULD be reporting on, is that prosecutors only attack lawyers when they have no case whatsoever," the spokesperson said.

A spokesperson for the special counsel's office declined to comment to ABC News.

The developments described by sources illustrate another dimension of the former president's ongoing legal vulnerabilities. As Smith's classified documents probe marches forward, prosecutors in New York are mulling a separate indictment against Trump over hush payments he allegedly paid to an adult film star ahead of the 2016 presidential election. Trump also faces scrutiny in Georgia over his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election in the state, and Smith is continuing his own probe into Trump's attempts to interfere in the 2020 election.

 

PHOTO: FILE - Former President Donald Trump speaks in Davenport, Iowa, March 13, 2023. (Jonathan Ernst/Reuters, FILE)

Central to Smith's efforts in the classified documents probe is determining whether lawyers who represented the former president falsely certified in response to a grand jury subpoena that Trump had returned all classified records to the government or whether Trump himself sought to conceal records that he might have unlawfully retained.

Federal prosecutors have claimed that lawyers for Trump certified in June 2022 that a "diligent search" of Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate turned up just 38 classified documents stored in a secured storage room. But two months later, when FBI agents raided the premises, they found more than 100 additional documents marked classified -- some of which were located outside of the storage room, including in Trump's office desk, prosecutors said.

In her order last Friday, Howell was unsparing in her criticism of Trump's actions since early last year in response to the government's attempts to retrieve all classified documents taken from the White House. At one point she described Trump's interactions with officials from the National Archives as a "dress rehearsal," sources said, for his later efforts at misdirection in response to the grand jury subpoena.

As ABC News has previously reported, investigators sought to compel the testimony of Corcoran and another Trump attorney, Jennifer Little, as part of their probe, citing the crime-fraud exception, which allows for attorney-client privilege to be pierced in cases where it is suspected that legal services were rendered in the commission of a crime. Sources told ABC News that Howell ordered Little's testimony as well, with the exception of one of the topics for which she sought to assert attorney-client privilege.

Sources said prosecutors have sought to question Corcoran on how he aided another Trump attorney, Christina Bobb, in drafting the June 2022 statement to the Justice Department, which Bobb ultimately signed.

Attorneys for Trump were expected to appeal Howell's Friday ruling, sources said.

[Warrior]

56 minutes ago, DBP66 said:

Sources: Special counsel claims Trump deliberately misled his attorneys about classified documents, judge wrote

 

KATHERINE FAULDERS, ALEXANDER MALLIN and LUCIEN BRUGGEMAN

Tue, March 21, 2023 at 6:10 PM EDT

 

 

Prosecutors in the special counsel's office have presented compelling preliminary evidence that former President Donald Trump knowingly and deliberately misled his own attorneys about his retention of classified materials after leaving office, a former top federal judge wrote Friday in a sealed filing, according to sources who described its contents to ABC News.

U.S. Judge Beryl Howell, who on Friday stepped down as the D.C. district court's chief judge, wrote last week that prosecutors in special counsel Jack Smith's office had made a "prima facie showing that the former president had committed criminal violations," according to the sources, and that attorney-client privileges invoked by two of his lawyers could therefore be pierced.

Trump has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing in his handling of classified documents.

In her sealed filing, Howell ordered that Evan Corcoran, an attorney for Trump, should comply with a grand jury subpoena for testimony on six separate lines of inquiry over which he had previously asserted attorney-client privilege.

Sources added that Howell also ordered Corcoran to hand over a number of records tied to what Howell described as Trump's alleged "criminal scheme," echoing prosecutors. Those records include handwritten notes, invoices, and transcriptions of personal audio recordings.

In reaching the so-called prima facie standard to pierce Corcoran's privilege, Howell agreed prosecutors made a sufficient showing that on its face would appear to show Trump committed crimes. The judge made it clear that prosecutors would still need to meet a higher standard of evidence in order to seek charges against Trump, and more still to prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

"It is a lower hurdle, but it is an indication that the government had presented some evidence and allegation that they had evidence that met the elements of a crime," Brandon Van Grack, a former top national security official in the Justice Department who is now in private practice, told ABC News.

 

PHOTO: FILE - The legal team of former US President Donald Trump, led by M. Evan Corcoran, arrives at the Brooklyn Federal Courthouse, Sept. 20, 2022 in New York City. (Alex Kent/Getty Images, FILE)

Howell found that prosecutors showed "sufficient" evidence that Trump "intentionally concealed" the existence of additional classified documents from Corcoran, sources said, putting Corcoran in an unwitting position to deceive the government.

It's unclear what evidence Howell may have reviewed under seal from both DOJ and Trump's attorneys to help her arrive at her decision.

In response to ABC News, a Trump campaign spokesperson said, in part, "Shame on Fake News ABC for broadcasting ILLEGALLY LEAKED false allegations from a Never Trump, now former chief judge, against the Trump legal team."

"The real story here, that Fake News ABC SHOULD be reporting on, is that prosecutors only attack lawyers when they have no case whatsoever," the spokesperson said.

A spokesperson for the special counsel's office declined to comment to ABC News.

The developments described by sources illustrate another dimension of the former president's ongoing legal vulnerabilities. As Smith's classified documents probe marches forward, prosecutors in New York are mulling a separate indictment against Trump over hush payments he allegedly paid to an adult film star ahead of the 2016 presidential election. Trump also faces scrutiny in Georgia over his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election in the state, and Smith is continuing his own probe into Trump's attempts to interfere in the 2020 election.

 

PHOTO: FILE - Former President Donald Trump speaks in Davenport, Iowa, March 13, 2023. (Jonathan Ernst/Reuters, FILE)

Central to Smith's efforts in the classified documents probe is determining whether lawyers who represented the former president falsely certified in response to a grand jury subpoena that Trump had returned all classified records to the government or whether Trump himself sought to conceal records that he might have unlawfully retained.

Federal prosecutors have claimed that lawyers for Trump certified in June 2022 that a "diligent search" of Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate turned up just 38 classified documents stored in a secured storage room. But two months later, when FBI agents raided the premises, they found more than 100 additional documents marked classified -- some of which were located outside of the storage room, including in Trump's office desk, prosecutors said.

In her order last Friday, Howell was unsparing in her criticism of Trump's actions since early last year in response to the government's attempts to retrieve all classified documents taken from the White House. At one point she described Trump's interactions with officials from the National Archives as a "dress rehearsal," sources said, for his later efforts at misdirection in response to the grand jury subpoena.

As ABC News has previously reported, investigators sought to compel the testimony of Corcoran and another Trump attorney, Jennifer Little, as part of their probe, citing the crime-fraud exception, which allows for attorney-client privilege to be pierced in cases where it is suspected that legal services were rendered in the commission of a crime. Sources told ABC News that Howell ordered Little's testimony as well, with the exception of one of the topics for which she sought to assert attorney-client privilege.

Sources said prosecutors have sought to question Corcoran on how he aided another Trump attorney, Christina Bobb, in drafting the June 2022 statement to the Justice Department, which Bobb ultimately signed.

Attorneys for Trump were expected to appeal Howell's Friday ruling, sources said.

Another whack-job judge drops a bomb the week she decided to retire. Nothing to see.

Throw out attorney client privilege of a former President. “In her sealed filing, Howell ordered that Evan Corcoran, an attorney for Trump, should comply with a grand jury subpoena for testimony on six separate lines of inquiry over which he had previously asserted attorney-client privilege,” the report continued.

Again, looking for a crime to prosecute vs prosecuting a crime. This won’t end well for the prosecution. “It is a lower hurdle, but it is an indication that the government had presented some evidence and allegation that they had evidence that met the elements of a crime,” former Justice Dept. attorney Brandon Van Grack told ABC News.
 

DP - I think Lucy is going to pull that football on you again with this one. But you already know.

[DBP66]

9 minutes ago, Warrior said:

Another whack-job judge drops a bomb the week she decided to retire. Nothing to see.

Throw out attorney client privilege of a former President. “In her sealed filing, Howell ordered that Evan Corcoran, an attorney for Trump, should comply with a grand jury subpoena for testimony on six separate lines of inquiry over which he had previously asserted attorney-client privilege,” the report continued.

Again, looking for a crime to prosecute vs prosecuting a crime. This won’t end well for the prosecution. “It is a lower hurdle, but it is an indication that the government had presented some evidence and allegation that they had evidence that met the elements of a crime,” former Justice Dept. attorney Brandon Van Grack told ABC News.
 

DP - I think Lucy is going to pull that football on you again with this one. But you already know.

Let me guess....the Judge is an "easy mark"?....🤡

[Warrior]

5 minutes ago, DBP66 said:

Let me guess....the Judge is an "easy mark"?....🤡

Nope, just you and Willie. 

[Slotback Right]

11 hours ago, World Citizen said:

That is exactly what our last President did.  Steal children (with the added benefit of putting them in Obama's cages) and killing civilians (google pandemic response).   

I wonder if these people who do not want to help our allies today would have thought the same thing before we entered WW2.  NATO kind of requires that the United States back our allies, I think. Just NATO allies...Ukraine is not a NATO ally.  Lol@warrior for having any opinion on anything.  

 

 

FIFY

[Warrior]

11 hours ago, DBP66 said:

Sources: Special counsel claims Trump deliberately misled his attorneys about classified documents, judge wrote

 

KATHERINE FAULDERS, ALEXANDER MALLIN and LUCIEN BRUGGEMAN

Tue, March 21, 2023 at 6:10 PM EDT

 

 

Prosecutors in the special counsel's office have presented compelling preliminary evidence that former President Donald Trump knowingly and deliberately misled his own attorneys about his retention of classified materials after leaving office, a former top federal judge wrote Friday in a sealed filing, according to sources who described its contents to ABC News.

U.S. Judge Beryl Howell, who on Friday stepped down as the D.C. district court's chief judge, wrote last week that prosecutors in special counsel Jack Smith's office had made a "prima facie showing that the former president had committed criminal violations," according to the sources, and that attorney-client privileges invoked by two of his lawyers could therefore be pierced.

Trump has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing in his handling of classified documents.

In her sealed filing, Howell ordered that Evan Corcoran, an attorney for Trump, should comply with a grand jury subpoena for testimony on six separate lines of inquiry over which he had previously asserted attorney-client privilege.

Sources added that Howell also ordered Corcoran to hand over a number of records tied to what Howell described as Trump's alleged "criminal scheme," echoing prosecutors. Those records include handwritten notes, invoices, and transcriptions of personal audio recordings.

In reaching the so-called prima facie standard to pierce Corcoran's privilege, Howell agreed prosecutors made a sufficient showing that on its face would appear to show Trump committed crimes. The judge made it clear that prosecutors would still need to meet a higher standard of evidence in order to seek charges against Trump, and more still to prove his guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

"It is a lower hurdle, but it is an indication that the government had presented some evidence and allegation that they had evidence that met the elements of a crime," Brandon Van Grack, a former top national security official in the Justice Department who is now in private practice, told ABC News.

 

PHOTO: FILE - The legal team of former US President Donald Trump, led by M. Evan Corcoran, arrives at the Brooklyn Federal Courthouse, Sept. 20, 2022 in New York City. (Alex Kent/Getty Images, FILE)

Howell found that prosecutors showed "sufficient" evidence that Trump "intentionally concealed" the existence of additional classified documents from Corcoran, sources said, putting Corcoran in an unwitting position to deceive the government.

It's unclear what evidence Howell may have reviewed under seal from both DOJ and Trump's attorneys to help her arrive at her decision.

In response to ABC News, a Trump campaign spokesperson said, in part, "Shame on Fake News ABC for broadcasting ILLEGALLY LEAKED false allegations from a Never Trump, now former chief judge, against the Trump legal team."

"The real story here, that Fake News ABC SHOULD be reporting on, is that prosecutors only attack lawyers when they have no case whatsoever," the spokesperson said.

A spokesperson for the special counsel's office declined to comment to ABC News.

The developments described by sources illustrate another dimension of the former president's ongoing legal vulnerabilities. As Smith's classified documents probe marches forward, prosecutors in New York are mulling a separate indictment against Trump over hush payments he allegedly paid to an adult film star ahead of the 2016 presidential election. Trump also faces scrutiny in Georgia over his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election in the state, and Smith is continuing his own probe into Trump's attempts to interfere in the 2020 election.

 

PHOTO: FILE - Former President Donald Trump speaks in Davenport, Iowa, March 13, 2023. (Jonathan Ernst/Reuters, FILE)

Central to Smith's efforts in the classified documents probe is determining whether lawyers who represented the former president falsely certified in response to a grand jury subpoena that Trump had returned all classified records to the government or whether Trump himself sought to conceal records that he might have unlawfully retained.

Federal prosecutors have claimed that lawyers for Trump certified in June 2022 that a "diligent search" of Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate turned up just 38 classified documents stored in a secured storage room. But two months later, when FBI agents raided the premises, they found more than 100 additional documents marked classified -- some of which were located outside of the storage room, including in Trump's office desk, prosecutors said.

In her order last Friday, Howell was unsparing in her criticism of Trump's actions since early last year in response to the government's attempts to retrieve all classified documents taken from the White House. At one point she described Trump's interactions with officials from the National Archives as a "dress rehearsal," sources said, for his later efforts at misdirection in response to the grand jury subpoena.

As ABC News has previously reported, investigators sought to compel the testimony of Corcoran and another Trump attorney, Jennifer Little, as part of their probe, citing the crime-fraud exception, which allows for attorney-client privilege to be pierced in cases where it is suspected that legal services were rendered in the commission of a crime. Sources told ABC News that Howell ordered Little's testimony as well, with the exception of one of the topics for which she sought to assert attorney-client privilege.

Sources said prosecutors have sought to question Corcoran on how he aided another Trump attorney, Christina Bobb, in drafting the June 2022 statement to the Justice Department, which Bobb ultimately signed.

Attorneys for Trump were expected to appeal Howell's Friday ruling, sources said.

They can never play a clean game. 

Jack Smith, Garland’s handpicked special prosecutor, is selectively and inappropriately leaking from a judge’s non-public order?

Then the judge, a former Democrat staffer to then-Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT), inappropriately released Trump’s attorney notes the last day on her job, before Trump could appeal.

These 3 (liberal) DC circuit judges must know outgoing-Chief Judge Beryl Howell clearly erred by not allowing Trump and his attorney time to appeal before she handed over attorney notes to Garland’s handpicked special prosecutor Jack Smith.
 

[DBP66]

Just now, Warrior said:

They can never play a clean game. 

Jack Smith, Garland’s handpicked special prosecutor, is selectively and inappropriately leaking from a judge’s non-public order?

Then the judge, a former Democrat staffer to then-Senate Judiciary Chairman Patrick Leahy (D-VT), inappropriately released Trump’s attorney notes the last day on her job, before Trump could appeal.

These 3 (liberal) DC circuit judges must know outgoing-Chief Judge Beryl Howell clearly erred by not allowing Trump and his attorney time to appeal before she handed over attorney notes to Garland’s handpicked special prosecutor Jack Smith.
 

waaa.....waaa....waa....Trump has taught you to be a cry baby??...yea....we know the game already....blame the investigators....LOL...how silly...Jack Smith is a bad guy for doing his job...got ya'....🙄

[Warrior]

49 minutes ago, DBP66 said:

waaa.....waaa....waa....Trump has taught you to be a cry baby??...yea....we know the game already....blame the investigators....LOL...how silly...Jack Smith is a bad guy for doing his job...got ya'....🙄

Just calling balls and strikes DP - get back to me when the game is over with a final score. I'll bet another nothing burger - but don't be deterred I'm sure there be another 5-6 of these "we got him!" cases before the next election.

Like Chuck said "they've got a millions ways to Sunday to get you". Makes you think who's really running our government? I'm sure you don't think about that stuff.