HooverOutlaw Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 Without doing a bunch of research only Brady and Montana would rank better right now imo. He has tied Aikman with 3 superbowls. Jerry cost Aikman at least 2 more. I rank him above Manning, Aikman, Elway, Favre, Bradshaw, Staubach and Aaron Rodgers. IMO he is in the Marino, Drew Brees, Johnny Unitas level right now. Mahomes does not have the stain of cheating like Brady has. Blast away. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChimpGrip Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 I think Aaron Rodgers was better. Was held back by less than stellar teams (overall) at times. Brees, Marino, Brady, Peyton Manning all were better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted February 12 Author Report Share Posted February 12 1 minute ago, ChimpGrip said: I think Aaron Rodgers was better. Was held back by less than stellar teams (overall) at times. Brees, Marino, Brady, Peyton Manning all were better. I think if Marino played on a good team nowdays he could throw for 7000 yards in a season. He just happened to play for Shula. All these experts claim Marino had the best passing mechanics ever and the quickest release. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted February 12 Author Report Share Posted February 12 4 minutes ago, ChimpGrip said: I think Aaron Rodgers was better. Was held back by less than stellar teams (overall) at times. Brees, Marino, Brady, Peyton Manning all were better. Funny thing about Manning both NFL teams he played for he is not their best qb all time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChimpGrip Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 21 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: I think if Marino played on a good team nowdays he could throw for 7000 yards in a season. He just happened to play for Shula. All these experts claim Marino had the best passing mechanics ever and the quickest release. Marino was a freak. Probably the most gifted passer in league history. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DevilDog Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 24 minutes ago, ChimpGrip said: Marino was a freak. Probably the most gifted passer in league history. Mahomes 3 SBs. Marino 0. Throwing for 1 million yards don't make you better. Josh Allen is a present day Marino. Is he better? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 26 minutes ago, DevilDog said: Mahomes 3 SBs. Marino 0. Throwing for 1 million yards don't make you better. Josh Allen is a present day Marino. Is he better? Josh Allen is better than Marino. Marino was a statue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, HooverOutlaw said: Without doing a bunch of research only Brady and Montana would rank better right now imo. He has tied Aikman with 3 superbowls. Jerry cost Aikman at least 2 more. I rank him above Manning, Aikman, Elway, Favre, Bradshaw, Staubach and Aaron Rodgers. IMO he is in the Marino, Drew Brees, Johnny Unitas level right now. Mahomes does not have the stain of cheating like Brady has. Blast away. Mahomes is the best QB of this era. You can't really compare him to the 90s because the rules were so much different. Brady doesn't play 20 years in that era. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted February 12 Author Report Share Posted February 12 31 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Josh Allen is better than Marino. Marino was a statue. Only you believe that. Marino is probably before your time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted February 12 Author Report Share Posted February 12 30 minutes ago, steeler01 said: Mahomes is the best QB of this era. You can't really compare him to the 90s because the rules were so much different. Brady doesn't play 20 years in that era. The rules were changed because of Brady. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 6 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: The rules were changed because of Brady. A lot of the rules for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeler01 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 8 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: Only you believe that. Marino is probably before your time. No, he's not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, steeler01 said: Josh Allen is better than Marino. Marino was a statue. Certainly he’s more athletic and has the arm strength advantage also, although Dan could sling it. Quick release was Dan’s thing. He had a solid OL and very good WR’s (Mark’s) I still laugh at the memory of missing Dan’s one SB game for an Iron Maiden concert in NY. 😂 Was freezing that night too. The lead singer provided the final score during the concert. 😃 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 Mahomes probably top 2 this era and top 10 overall. He has shown to be clutch when it matters time n time again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bormio Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted February 12 Author Report Share Posted February 12 16 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: Certainly he’s more athletic and has the arm strength advantage also, although Dan could sling it. Quick release was Dan’s thing. He had a solid OL and very good WR’s (Mark’s) I still laugh at the memory of missing Dan’s one SB game for an Iron Maiden concert in NY. 😂 Was freezing that night too. The lead singer provided the final score during the concert. 😃 I'd would have gone to the concert to. Who opened for them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted February 12 Author Report Share Posted February 12 17 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: Certainly he’s more athletic and has the arm strength advantage also, although Dan could sling it. Quick release was Dan’s thing. He had a solid OL and very good WR’s (Mark’s) I still laugh at the memory of missing Dan’s one SB game for an Iron Maiden concert in NY. 😂 Was freezing that night too. The lead singer provided the final score during the concert. 😃 Another 80's guy who could throw it was Dan Fouts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 8 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: I'd would have gone to the concert to. Who opened for them? Queensryche. Venue was at the Radio City Music Hall. Geoff Tate’s voice was insane. I liked that band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 10 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: Another 80's guy who could throw it was Dan Fouts. Indeed he could. Like with Marino, he just needed a better D. The bolts under Air Coryell was as good as it gets for O entertainment and on a grass home field. I was so bummed when they faced Cincy in a Siberia environment playoff game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 2 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: Indeed he could. Like with Marino, he just needed a better D. The bolts under Air Coryell was as good as it gets for O entertainment and on a grass home field. I was so bummed when they faced Cincy in a Siberia environment playoff game. You recall I’m sure @HooverOutlaw the infamous Chargers-Dolphins game… the great TE Winslow needed help walking off the field as he was totally drained. What a game that was! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 So hard to rate QB’s (era, rules, team sport)… Bradshaw will never get the full praise he deserves. He called his own plays and was as tough as a QB could be, but he also had a lot of HOF help from teammates and a Jackie Smith drop also helped for one ring. But his individual stats weren’t dominant as in top 5 level. This year especially, Mahomes deserves all the accolades thrown at him. His stats and SB hardware are impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted February 12 Author Report Share Posted February 12 1 hour ago, golfaddict1 said: So hard to rate QB’s (era, rules, team sport)… Bradshaw will never get the full praise he deserves. He called his own plays and was as tough as a QB could be, but he also had a lot of HOF help from teammates and a Jackie Smith drop also helped for one ring. But his individual stats weren’t dominant as in top 5 level. This year especially, Mahomes deserves all the accolades thrown at him. His stats and SB hardware are impressive. Cowboys should have won that game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 28 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: Cowboys should have won that game. Like with Buckner, many forget how talented Jackie Smith was… the mistake takes top preference, sadly for too many fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zulu1128 Posted February 12 Report Share Posted February 12 IMO there should be some kind of grading curve that takes into account the fact that attempted murder of QBs and WRs used to be perfectly fine. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted February 12 Author Report Share Posted February 12 35 minutes ago, zulu1128 said: IMO there should be some kind of grading curve that takes into account the fact that attempted murder of QBs and WRs used to be perfectly fine. Guys like Stabler used to get blasted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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