WCACguy Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Do they have any validity? I understand SJR is quite unhappy that DeMatha backed out of their game (despite having signed a two year contract) in order to play SJB on ESPN. What ramifications are there for breaking a contract? If none then why even have them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, WCACguy said: Do they have any validity? I understand SJR is quite unhappy that DeMatha backed out of their game (despite having signed a two year contract) in order to play SJB on ESPN. What ramifications are there for breaking a contract? If none then why even have them? Technically you can get a lawyer involved since its a signed contract and its enforceable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardcore Troubador Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, WCACguy said: Do they have any validity? I understand SJR is quite unhappy that DeMatha backed out of their game (despite having signed a two year contract) in order to play SJB on ESPN. What ramifications are there for breaking a contract? If none then why even have them? If a lawyer worth half with his fee drafted it there should be some penalty provisions where the party that breaks it has to pay the other party. Â There should usually be some exceptions for âActs of Godâ or other things that truly prevent one party from fulfilling its obligation. Â But assuming DeMatha just called Joes and said âNah, fuck it, weâre outâ then Iâd imagine some $ exchanged hands. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Usually there is a penalty involved to break the contract. I heave heard an instance where the $5K was the buy out and it increased by $500 for every week it got closer to the game starting August 1st. Obviuosly that was a random isolated agreement. Iâm sure every contract has some type of buyout or penalty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Hardcore Troubador said: If a lawyer worth half with his fee drafted it there should be some penalty provisions where the party that breaks it has to pay the other party.  There should usually be some exceptions for âActs of Godâ or other things that truly prevent one party from fulfilling its obligation.  But assuming DeMatha just called Joes and said âNah, fuck it, weâre outâ then Iâd imagine some $ exchanged hands. Being offered the opportunity to play a Trinity League team is akin to an "act of God". Any good attorney could convince a jury of that. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 5 hours ago, WCACguy said: Do they have any validity? I understand SJR is quite unhappy that DeMatha backed out of their game (despite having signed a two year contract) in order to play SJB on ESPN. What ramifications are there for breaking a contract? If none then why even have them? They gotta send me $500 and we cool 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: Being offered the opportunity to play a Trinity League team is akin to an "act of God". Any good attorney could convince a jury of that. So, with that logic, IMG should have no problem scheduling. Iâm with you on this, Sammy. Pinky promise, BGW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, imaGoodBoyNow said: They gotta send me $500 and we cool Just $500, you doing crack now or what? đđđ BGW 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosinc Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 7 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: In the hundreds of contacts I've seen, it's normally addressed in two ways: 1. A monetary cancellation penalty of a few thousand dollars 2. The Canceling team must find a replacement team in order to move on In this case the two teams were so familiar with each other that neither added any such clause. SJR will never allow this to happen again. So SJR relied on the ole handshake method and got stovepiped? Trust but verify. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted April 3, 2019 Report Share Posted April 3, 2019 Buncha Catholic schools pulling the okeedokee on one another. Wouldn't think you'd need iron clad contracts amongst the same denomination like that and all. It's all good. They can get the mother to make her son forgive them later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 24 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: ESL did the same to CQ. Stereotyping is ugly. ESL had a good reason. They thought they were coming to get a piece of a Rush coached team, and that changed. Nothing apparently changed like that with SJR, so, not seeing the comparison. I do apologize for stereotyping. Maybe you can help change my mind about Catholics by being the most honest one I ever had the pleasure of making the acquaintance of.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 I apologize again. I'm afraid I didn't do much better in my second post in this thread either. Feeling a little ornery for some reason.  Seriously though... was that not a low hanging fruit? I mean, only going on what I've read here, and for a school that's supposed to be Catholic and whatever to need all these extra things put in a contract to "keep them honest" in the future. Bad looks. Lol  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesinsider Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 Maybe I missed it but why did DeMatha have to drop SJR when they scheduled SJB? They're playing SJB on 8/24, which is a week earlier than the rest of the WCAC opens regular season play and were supposed to play SJR on 9/7. It would only make sense if they added SJB to an already completed 10-game schedule, in which case they would have to drop someone because the WCAC limits you to 10 regular season games. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, GardenStateBaller said: That's the point. They didn't have to cancel since the games were two weeks apart. Not a good look. Smart coach.. he obviously didnât wanna start 0-2 OOS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosinc Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 4 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: Buncha Catholic schools pulling the okeedokee on one another. Wouldn't think you'd need iron clad contracts amongst the same denomination like that and all. It's all good. They can get the mother to make her son forgive them later. You might conclude one was an altar boy and the other was the bishop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicholasMalibu Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 On 4/3/2019 at 12:14 PM, WCACguy said: Do they have any validity? I understand SJR is quite unhappy that DeMatha backed out of their game (despite having signed a two year contract) in order to play SJB on ESPN. What ramifications are there for breaking a contract? If none then why even have them? Did Brooks sign the contract or did McGregor? Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 16 hours ago, HawgGoneIt said: I apologize again. I'm afraid I didn't do much better in my second post in this thread either. Feeling a little ornery for some reason.  Seriously though... was that not a low hanging fruit? I mean, only going on what I've read here, and for a school that's supposed to be Catholic and whatever to need all these extra things put in a contract to "keep them honest" in the future. Bad looks. Lol  It's all for the good of the church brother. The collection plate will be a lot more full playing on ESPN. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCACguy Posted April 4, 2019 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, NicholasMalibu said: Did Brooks sign the contract or did McGregor? Â Usually the AD or principal would I would think...shouldn't matter. I understand DeMatha would prefer a highly-funded (ESPN and SJB?) trip to California to play maybe the best team in the country on ESPN. I just wondered if they were obligated to compensate SJR in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 34 minutes ago, WCACguy said: Usually the AD or principal would I would think...shouldn't matter. I understand DeMatha would prefer a highly-funded (ESPN and SJB?) trip to California to play maybe the best team in the country on ESPN. I just wondered if they were obligated to compensate SJR in any way. It would say so in the contract. Sjr should get a lawyer and at least get the payout if any that they are owed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicholasMalibu Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 1 hour ago, WCACguy said: Usually the AD or principal would I would think...shouldn't matter. I understand DeMatha would prefer a highly-funded (ESPN and SJB?) trip to California to play maybe the best team in the country on ESPN. I just wondered if they were obligated to compensate SJR in any way. I donât understand the process either. I get why SJR is pissed, but I also understand that McGregor owes it to his team to take the SJB/ESPN game. At the end of the day you do whatâs best for the team youâre responsible for. Youâre never going to please everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, NicholasMalibu said: I donât understand the process either. I get why SJR is pissed, but I also understand that McGregor owes it to his team to take the SJB/ESPN game. At the end of the day you do whatâs best for the team youâre responsible for. Youâre never going to please everyone. At least pay up then any pay out that was supposed to happen and dont sign a contract which is now a breach of contract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicholasMalibu Posted April 4, 2019 Report Share Posted April 4, 2019 51 minutes ago, HSFBfan said: At least pay up then any pay out that was supposed to happen and dont sign a contract which is now a breach of contract Have you ever dealt with a contract like this? I have not so Iâm deferring to GSB on this one and according to his earlier post, this contract did not explain how a cancellation would work. The breach of contract isnât a reality if there was no penalty explained. Itâs shitty for SJR who was dealing with the previous HC on this one, but I get what DeMatha was thinking for the SJB game. When youâre competing against SJC, SFA, Good Counsel, etc...and they have these high profile match ups, you have to match that exposure. Bottom line is DM needed to drop a game. They picked the SJR game for whatever reason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HSFBfan Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 3 hours ago, NicholasMalibu said: Have you ever dealt with a contract like this? I have not so Iâm deferring to GSB on this one and according to his earlier post, this contract did not explain how a cancellation would work. The breach of contract isnât a reality if there was no penalty explained. Itâs shitty for SJR who was dealing with the previous HC on this one, but I get what DeMatha was thinking for the SJB game. When youâre competing against SJC, SFA, Good Counsel, etc...and they have these high profile match ups, you have to match that exposure. Bottom line is DM needed to drop a game. They picked the SJR game for whatever reason. If yeah there was no cancellation language than there really is nothing for anyone to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglesinsider Posted April 5, 2019 Report Share Posted April 5, 2019 5 hours ago, NicholasMalibu said: Have you ever dealt with a contract like this? I have not so Iâm deferring to GSB on this one and according to his earlier post, this contract did not explain how a cancellation would work. The breach of contract isnât a reality if there was no penalty explained. Itâs shitty for SJR who was dealing with the previous HC on this one, but I get what DeMatha was thinking for the SJB game. When youâre competing against SJC, SFA, Good Counsel, etc...and they have these high profile match ups, you have to match that exposure. Bottom line is DM needed to drop a game. They picked the SJR game for whatever reason. Here's MPSSAA (MD public school) contract: https://www.mpssaa.org/assets/1/6/MPSSAA_Athletic_Contest_Contract.pdf From what I've seen it's pretty standard. Of course some prominent high schools might use more college-like contracts which are pages long and are incredibly specific. For example, the Nebraska-Akron game that was cancelled last year listed events that could void the contract such as a hurricane, war, invasion, rebellion or confiscation by the government. If the game was cancelled for any other reason the cancelling party owed the other party $1 million. https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/09/03/nebraska-akron-football-contract-void-provisions  1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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