Columbiafan Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 28 minutes ago, Omaha Vol said: Yes, the town is Brentwood, a suburb of Nashville. Is there usually enough talent there for both to be good when you also have Brentwood academy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Is there usually enough talent there for both to be good when you also have Brentwood academy? Brentwood High is usually decent, but most years isn’t a serious threat to win state. Brentwood Acad, however, is a private school and can recruit and is always the better team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Omaha Vol said: Brentwood High is usually decent, but most years isn’t a serious threat to win state. Brentwood Acad, however, is a private school and can recruit and is always the better team. Isn't Ravenwood almost like a magnet school? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 30 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Isn't Ravenwood almost like a magnet school? I believe so. I haven’t lived in Tennessee since the mid 90s. Ravenwood wasn’t even around back then. They have been a pretty decent team since they opened. They upset my old high school (Oak Ridge) for the state title back in 04 or 05? Typically, though, the Nashville area has been dominated by the privates....BA,MBA, and Ensworth, with CPA making some noise for the smaller schools. If I remember correctly, CPA upset one of the big dogs in GA a few years back. Maybe Parkview? (Remind me GA guys) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 16 hours ago, ECHS05 said: Obviously this is the summer edition at the moment... But we no longer just have the "Sneak Peak". You can get on their actual 2019 rankings page... Heres their top 100... As it sits now. Clearly this is gonna change... A lot... Between now & August. 1. Mater Dei CA 2. St. John Bosco CA 3. St. Frances Academy MD 4. St. Louis HI (what is this team doing here, CP loves this team) 5. Duncanville TX 6. Corona Centennial CA 7. St. John's DC 8. North Shore TX 9. Narbonne CA 10. DeMatha MD 11. St. Joseph's Prep PA 12. IMG Academy USA 13. Calabasas CA 14. Aledo TX 15. Colquitt Co. GA 16. John Curtis LA 17. Longview TX 18. De La Salle CA 19. Corner Canyon UT 20. Miami Central FL 21. Eastside Catholic WA 22. Gonzaga DC 23. St. Edward OH 24. St. Thomas Aquinas FL 25. Christian Brothers MO 26. Highland Park TX 27. Marietta GA 28. Saguaro AZ 29. Colerain OH 30. Miami Northwestern FL 31. Oaks Christian CA 32. Denton Ryan TX 33. Mentor OH 34. St. Joseph Regional NJ 35. Cathedral (San Diego) CA 36. Central (Phenix City) AL 37. Grace Brethren CA 38. Sierra Canyon CA 39. Mission Viejo CA 40. Folsom CA 41. Miami Columbus FL 42. Mandarin FL 43. Archbishop Hoban OH 44. Punahou HI 45. Norco CA 46. Nazareth Academy IL 47. Southlake Carroll TX 48. Good Counsel MD 49. Corona del Mar CA 50. Washington (Massillon) OH 51. JSerra CA 52. Armwood FL 53. McEachern GA 54. Pickerington Central OH 55. Chandler AZ 56. Carol City FL 57. Vanguard FL 58. Dutch Fork SC 59. Katy TX 60. Liberty (Brentwood) CA 61. St. Ignatius OH 62. Columbia FL 63. Parkview GA 64. Bishop Gorman NV 65. Central (Fresno) CA 66. North Little Rock AR 67. Lee Co. GA 68. Lake Travis TX 69. Bergen Catholic NJ 70. Trinity Christian FL 71. DeSmet Jesuit MO 72. Deerfield Beach FL 73. East St. Louis IL 74. Myers Park NC 75. Coatesville PA 76. Mililani HI 77. Lowndes GA 78. Cedar Grove GA 79. Allen TX 80. Serra (Gardena) CA 81. East Forsyth NC 82. Archer GA 83. Warren Central IN 84. North Gwinnett GA 85. Cartersville GA 86. Hoover AL 87. Lone Star TX 88. West Brook TX 89. Upland CA 90. Marshall TX 91. Lawndale CA 92. Madison Central MS 93. La Salle OH 94. Winton Woods OH 95. Jesuit (Tampa) FL 96. St. Augustine CA 97. Bishop Dunne TX 98. Lincoln-Way East IL 99. Bryant AR 100. Derby KS Should look better each year with better criteria setup and more loaded roster teams in the top spots. The boldfaced teams are the dozen singled out by the MaxPreps pollster... all in the CP top 25. CP loves Hawaii, Massey loves Nebraska... both dislike the other similarly . Head to Head top 5 schools? I like HI to outperform, but who knows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noonereal Posted May 31, 2019 Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 17 hours ago, Belly Bob said: Corner Canyon at 19 and 22? How is DLS at 18 and STA at 24 if these ratings are based in large part on individual talent? STA might have 10 times the number of stars as DLS. What else goes into these preseason ratings? Cal does not use the "head count poll" method. That was the method used by Rivals a decade ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted May 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 9 hours ago, Omaha Vol said: Brentwood Academy, right? Brentwood High is a big school public who is usually halfway decent. Yeah its BA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted May 31, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2019 7 hours ago, Omaha Vol said: I believe so. I haven’t lived in Tennessee since the mid 90s. Ravenwood wasn’t even around back then. They have been a pretty decent team since they opened. They upset my old high school (Oak Ridge) for the state title back in 04 or 05? Typically, though, the Nashville area has been dominated by the privates....BA,MBA, and Ensworth, with CPA making some noise for the smaller schools. If I remember correctly, CPA upset one of the big dogs in GA a few years back. Maybe Parkview? (Remind me GA guys) Peachtree Ridge is the team CPA beat... 35-21. Parkview beat CPA the next year 32-7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 3 hours ago, ECHS05 said: Peachtree Ridge is the team CPA beat... 35-21. Parkview beat CPA the next year 32-7. Tennessee HSFB is garbage lets see them schedule a tough OOS game like a team from the WCAC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 Anybody spot The Bishop on this list? Asking for a friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Anybody spot The Bishop on this list? Asking for a friend. They're 64th 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 12 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said: Anybody spot The Bishop on this list? Asking for a friend. Twenty-seven (27) spots worse than my Grace Brethren Golden Champions. Boom! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, badrouter said: Twenty-seven (27) spots worse than my Grace Brethren Golden Champions. Boom! Hmmm Grace Brethren batting their eyes at The Tiers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omaha Vol Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 hours ago, DMV said: Tennessee HSFB is garbage lets see them schedule a tough OOS game like a team from the WCAC That's a bold statement. You sound like you're a piece of shit! Tennessee has consistently been a top 10-20 state in the entire country on a yearly basis. I wouldn't call that garbage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 ^^^^ BGW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus69 Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 North Morven said earlier today that many Lowndes fans are boycotting California wines because of this poll. Rufus>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 10 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: Hmmm Grace Brethren batting their eyes at The Tiers. You know, I know and the American people know Grace is-at WORDT- tier two nationally. All of us should have KNOWN this to be the case following the EPIC rally to DEFEAT St. Margaret's by a score of 13-12. READ IT AND WEEP! https://www.vcstar.com/story/sports/high-school/football/2018/08/31/running-game-helps-grace-brethren-rally-past-st-margarets-2nd-half/1139634002/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badrouter Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 And let's not forget the incredible OOS schedule Grace plays. ALL of the teams are from outside the states of Florida and all of the other 48 states. Every.Single.One. So, the schedule is really beyond reproach. I just want to know why we're getting SHAFTED being ranked only #37 nationally, which is only, for examples, four spots ahead of Miami Columbus, twenty spots ahead of Miami Carol City, twenty-seven spots ahead of Bishop Gorman, forty-two spots ahead of Allen, TX, forty-nine spots better than Hoover and sixty-five spots better than Lakeland. Like, we're above all those teams, yes, but why only that little bit? We would totally SMASH Miami Carol City. Twenty spots is not ENOUGH! I mean, we fucking beat St. Margaret's 13-12!! Imagibe what we would do to Allen!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 22 hours ago, noonereal said: Cal does not use the "head count poll" method. That was the method used by Rivals a decade ago. So what method does he use? He lists key returners and key losses and he lists the number of stars a player has when he's got stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted June 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 On 5/31/2019 at 7:08 AM, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Didn't see Lakeland or Milton in top 100, surely merit consideration. Unless Ned switched gears and analyzed Milton on returning talent. Actually not bad, kicking it off this time around. Regards, BGW Milton #194. Milton brings back strong lines on both sides. But their QB carried them for the most part. He, and every one of their skill players are gone. Lakeland is #102. Not sure why. They did lose a lot of D1 studs. Zipperer, Hammond, Summerall, Jean, Huntley, etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted June 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 minute ago, Belly Bob said: So what method does he use? He lists key returners and key losses and he lists the number of stars a player has when he's got stars. That clown doesnt know. Why anyone even entertains the things he says at this point is beyond me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 1 minute ago, ECHS05 said: That clown doesnt know. Why anyone even entertains the things he says at this point is beyond me. Do you know how Ned determines preseason ratings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted June 1, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 6 minutes ago, Belly Bob said: Do you know how Ned determines preseason ratings? From all appearances, its a combination of a few things... They start with last years rating, and adjust up or down based on # of returning starters, # of D1 level players departing or returning, "historical reload factor" (aka if they are usually good no matter what they lose), their perceived SoS for the upcoming season... Etc. Idk how they assign points to each of these criteria, but based on the "Preview" page... Thats most of what they use. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belly Bob Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: From all appearances, its a combination of a few things... They start with last years rating, and adjust up or down based on # of returning starters, # of D1 level players departing or returning, "historical reload factor" (aka if they are usually good no matter what they lose), their perceived SoS for the upcoming season... Etc. Idk how they assign points to each of these criteria, but based on the "Preview" page... Thats most of what they use. But if DLS is ranked higher than STA, I've got to think that D1 players departing or returning isn't weighted as much as the other factors. It's too bad that the people who use algorithms rarely make it explicit how they determine initial values. If I remember correctly, I asked Jeff Fisher that question when he was on here, and he wasn't forthcoming either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slotback Right Posted June 1, 2019 Report Share Posted June 1, 2019 15 hours ago, badrouter said: Twenty-seven (27) spots worse than my Grace Brethren Golden Champions. Boom! What's happening at Grace Brethren? They just dropped out of two 7x7 tournaments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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