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38 minutes ago, Testadura said:

he's a liar

that's a fact.  stipulated to.  conceded.  henceforth a non-issue

do you like liars whom everyone knows is a liar, and so, the spotlight is constantly on them such that they can't get away with lying so to speak?

or liars whom no one suspects of being liars and whom insiders and the media shill for?

enough with the softballs.  let's talk turkey.  lol  Mother Theresa is dead, and before passing, was ineligible to be President.  ML King might have participated in a gang rape--we'll see in 2027.  let's deal with the real world.  people matter but they ALL have flaws--and the worst flaw for politicians are BAD policies, IMHO.  events matter, too.  but so do policies. a flawed Tommy Jefferson primarily authored the GREATEST American document, which has had hands down the greatest impact on the entire world.  I don't care relatively speaking that he picked his nose in class and wiped it under the seat

I don't care for the man, but he seems to be doing fine. I haven't noticed a change for the better or the worse in my own life or in the lives anyone close to me. 

He was supposed to shake things up. But his presidency seems to have been uneventful so far. What will we remember, the wall?

George W Bush was a madman by comparison. 

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1 hour ago, Testadura said:

he's a liar

that's a fact.  stipulated to.  conceded.  henceforth a non-issue...the leader of the free world being a serial liar is a non-issue?!..WOW!..how low have we set the bar??

do you like liars whom everyone knows is a liar, and so, the spotlight is constantly on them such that they can't get away with lying so to speak?

or liars whom no one suspects of being liars and whom insiders and the media shill for?

enough with the softballs.  let's talk turkey.  lol  Mother Theresa is dead, and before passing, was ineligible to be President.  ML King might have participated in a gang rape--we'll see in 2027.  let's deal with the real world.  people matter but they ALL have flaws--and the worst flaw for politicians are BAD policies, IMHO.  events matter, too.  but so do policies. a flawed Tommy Jefferson primarily authored the GREATEST American document, which has had hands down the greatest impact on the entire world.  I don't care relatively speaking that he picked his nose in class and wiped it under the seat

 

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2 hours ago, DBP66 said:

 

we tried this before

I get uncomfortable watching all of them.  Generally speaking, I pay no attention to Trump.  That's how I get thru life

but as a lawyer, I don't trust those who sound best or sound as if they're not lying--they all are so to speak.  and if people who matter have your back, you have to say little and lie less.  However, very few credible people have Trump's back, and considering that, it's amazing what he's withstood

does Trump press the outer limits in some ways.  of course.  I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole.

I don't doubt that many of my views are wrong and/or biased.  having said that, as with Greg Brady, the Johnny Bravo suit fit.  Trump was the last train out for most of us.  he's like that stuttering lawyer in "My Cousin Vinny," but he's the only lawyer to take our case.  sure I'd love someone who sounded like Clinton or Obama, but those guys were silent and deadly killers of what many of us believe in and hold important

Trump deserves a better defense than the one I just gave him, but I'm painfully aware of his issues, and am not looking to prove I'm right--just explaining myself

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