Ga96 Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 Just a little education for those who believe the lies about the wildcats. 1. The reason cats racked up the wins was because the city decided to do what millions of idiots around the country around that time refused to do and that was desegregate and that was the beginning of the lies about Valdosta. Valdosta by desegregating put one of the best all black schools and all white schools together when it came to athletics. This made it very easy for the cats to dominate as you could imagine a team of all white players can not handle a team of multiple races mainly white and black. Seeing this is what first caused players and families to want their kids to play for the wildcats. On top of that you had 2 chpices " if you were black remain at an all black school and play in a different league" which is like how we have ghsa and gisa or " if you were white stay at your all white school and get destroyed by the wildcats". The claim about moody air force base is just childish. There is more than one base in Georgia. Also there wasn't crazy military families moving in with stud aathletes. I haven't heard anyone else in the country make that excuse about a military base being in the area of a high school. Then the crap about holdbacks is ridiculous. Hyder himself was a damn teacher and he did not put up with kids failing he even made them attend summer school to graduate on time. For the delusional I guess its really hard for those to grasp that one city can have that much talent. For those that don't know Valdosta and Lowndes use to be one in the same due to the growth of the area Valdosta split into 2 the city- Valdosta and the county- Lowndes. What do you think would happen if those schools joined back together ? Its not rocket science. That's exactly what you had in the Valdosta of old and its why Valdosta had a drop in winning plus some questionable hirings and firings. On top of that the cats under Hyder had probably the best coaching staff in high school football history. https://www.ajc.com/blog/high-school-sports/four-questions-with-valdosta-football-historian-sandy-atkins/Q39eOY2xIhIxNDYpOvJ0vN/ One last thing for those who don't know the only reason the packers dont have as much of a winning tradition or championships is because they had Valdosta in their way. Not a packers fan but its the truth. For Lowndes coaching has been in the way and Lowndes isn't that old of a school. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 It would be nice ce, if the author could update to present day scenario and get some feedback on the current projected direction of the program. Considering the current chasm that exists within leadership could very well be the undoing for Valdosta in spite of what I consider a very good albeit a controversial hire. bgw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 For about 35 years it was High School football Heaven. Sounds like something out of a movie. Nobody did it better for that long of a period. Hoover has won 11 titles from 2000-2019 Valdosta like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imaGoodBoyNow Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 What year did Valdookie start the RentACat program and the let’s not forget Dosta is the creator of 5th year seniors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga96 Posted June 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, HooverOutlaw said: For about 35 years it was High School football Heaven. Sounds like something out of a movie. Nobody did it better for that long of a period. Hoover has won 11 titles from 2000-2019 Valdosta like. Should still be made into a movie one day. Its odd that teams that finished behind Valdosta during those years have movies but it was also been said Hyder rejected movie producers from making movies. That shouldn't be a problem an we are due a new Football movie. I think we will see some future hoover and Valdosta games. Im sure rush will be calling to schedule as soon as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 Anybody else feel like its valdosta overload on here? Sheesh. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, AztecPadre said: Anybody else feel like its valdosta overload on here? Sheesh. Where’s the Cali bros, quiet lately.... bgw 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sausmann9 Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 Very true statements for sure! The one very thing you did not mention was the conditioning programs. Bazemore and Hyder had their players in better condition than many teams they played. Also good call on Colquitt and when you look on it, CC was also a pain in Valdosta's ass more than any other team. Upset them a few times during the regular seasons, snatched home field from them once or twice when it really matter, and stuck it to them in 1994; twice. Aztec, lol, yes sometimes it does but I'm going to send you a book to read on Valdosta football "Must Win: A Season of Survival". Its a really good read! It tells you the exact same thing GA96 says but in-depth about the coaches, players, and community. This school is one of a few that, back in the day, set a tone/precedent for many other high school football programs around the country. When you think of really good public school football on the Grande scale from the 1960's through the late 90's, Valdosta has to be a top three in mind. Only a few other public schools came close to the success of Valdosta over the years in terms of state domination; others could be CB West of PA, Katy and Judson of TX, Massilon of OH. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga96 Posted June 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 Yes I did leave that out only cause I was correcting the lies others on here choose to believe and yes I think every coach that takes their job serious should have that book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Guru Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 Why does this school have a thread about it? 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 33 minutes ago, The Guru said: Why does this school have a thread about it? 🤷♂️ All the things you could potentially attack in the post and that's what you pick? Geez Los you really have lost your edge 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballGuy Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 1. I absolutely agree that there should be a documentary/movie detailing the history of the most winningest program in the nation. Like @BUFORDGAWOLVES said, it has to be detailed all the way up until the current day. It's only right. 2. Why is it that we seem to forget about Wright Bazemore? He's the Godfather of all this Valdosta stuff. We seem to talk more about Nick Hyder nowadays. 3. While we're talking about everything Valdosta, I guess it's confirmed that they're gonna be getting Aaron McGlaughlin (4 star qb/NC State commit). We'll see how that goes. But damn.... Rush wasn't lying when he said he's about to bring Valdosta back to nationa prominence.....but of course, what parent wouldn't want their son playing for him? (Other than those parents who are anti-Rush). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFORDGAWOLVES Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 48 minutes ago, FootballGuy said: 1. I absolutely agree that there should be a documentary/movie detailing the history of the most winningest program in the nation. Like @BUFORDGAWOLVES said, it has to be detailed all the way up until the current day. It's only right. 2. Why is it that we seem to forget about Wright Bazemore? He's the Godfather of all this Valdosta stuff. We seem to talk more about Nick Hyder nowadays. 3. While we're talking about everything Valdosta, I guess it's confirmed that they're gonna be getting Aaron McGlaughlin (4 star qb/NC State commit). We'll see how that goes. But damn.... Rush wasn't lying when he said he's about to bring Valdosta back to nationa prominence.....but of course, what parent wouldn't want their son playing for him? (Other than those parents who are anti-Rush). Yep, Dosta FB is blowing up with the qb transfer, we’ll see. Some analysis from the historians in that article present day and going forward would be cool. Interesting to see if Rush can Bridge the chasm between BOE/Super/outgoing principle. bgw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 There were to my knowledge a few black high schools in Valdosta before desegregation. Dasher, Lowndes Training, Pinevale and Westside. Those teams all merged at one point with either Valdosta or Lowndes. So before desegregation Valdosta high was an all white team and they played only all white teams. The original post makes it sound like Valdosta wanted to stay an all white school after desegregation but knew they wouldn’t have Football success. I don’t think it works like that. Every school in the south had to desegregate whether they liked it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga96 Posted June 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 51 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: There were to my knowledge a few black high schools in Valdosta before desegregation. Dasher, Lowndes Training, Pinevale and Westside. Those teams all merged at one point with either Valdosta or Lowndes. So before desegregation Valdosta high was an all white team and they played only all white teams. The original post makes it sound like Valdosta wanted to stay an all white school after desegregation but knew they wouldn’t have Football success. I don’t think it works like that. Every school in the south had to desegregate whether they liked it or not. That's what you took from that post. I said the blacks schools and the all white schools were winning before they combined. Its also highlighted in the story that I linked. Valdosta was years ahead of the country when it came to desegregation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Ga96 said: That's what you took from that post. I said the blacks schools and the all white schools were winning before they combined. Its also highlighted in the story that I linked. Valdosta was years ahead of the country when it came to desegregation. Who were the powerhouse black team’s from that time? What’s the name of the school and what was the timeframe of their dominance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 6 hours ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said: Yep, Dosta FB is blowing up with the qb transfer, we’ll see. Some analysis from the historians in that article present day and going forward would be cool. Interesting to see if Rush can Bridge the chasm between BOE/Super/outgoing principle. bgw It depends if the principle, Supt or BOE wants to be the star of the school system. It's easy to see at Colquitt the supt was a control freak and at Hoover the Spain Park controlled BOE was tired of getting their ass kicked by Rush. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP28 Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 21 hours ago, HooverOutlaw said: For about 35 years it was High School football Heaven. Sounds like something out of a movie. Nobody did it better for that long of a period. Hoover has won 11 titles from 2000-2019 Valdosta like. Everyone knows that HS football in Alabama is not as good as Georgia which releases Hoover from the conversation. Good for Alabama Georgia “not so much.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP28 Posted June 7, 2020 Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 19 hours ago, sausmann9 said: Very true statements for sure! The one very thing you did not mention was the conditioning programs. Bazemore and Hyder had their players in better condition than many teams they played. Also good call on Colquitt and when you look on it, CC was also a pain in Valdosta's ass more than any other team. Upset them a few times during the regular seasons, snatched home field from them once or twice when it really matter, and stuck it to them in 1994; twice. Aztec, lol, yes sometimes it does but I'm going to send you a book to read on Valdosta football "Must Win: A Season of Survival". Its a really good read! It tells you the exact same thing GA96 says but in-depth about the coaches, players, and community. This school is one of a few that, back in the day, set a tone/precedent for many other high school football programs around the country. When you think of really good public school football on the Grande scale from the 1960's through the late 90's, Valdosta has to be a top three in mind. Only a few other public schools came close to the success of Valdosta over the years in terms of state domination; others could be CB West of PA, Katy and Judson of TX, Massilon of OH. Valdosta’s staff during that time was the best in the country, most consistent and could out perform. Conditioning was the same result at Lowndes. Start of the 3rd Qt. Lowndes was blowing them off the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ga96 Posted June 7, 2020 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2020 54 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Who were the powerhouse black team’s from that time? What’s the name of the school and what was the timeframe of their dominance? As you said yourself pinevale you also had im sure playres from the washington street wildcats. My point was due to all those athletes and Valdosta being the first school in that area to desegregate you went from a school winning to a school being basically unbeatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolebull813 Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Ga96 said: As you said yourself pinevale you also had im sure playres from the washington street wildcats. My point was due to all those athletes and Valdosta being the first school in that area to desegregate you went from a school winning to a school being basically unbeatable. Pinevale had a lifetime winning percentage of .654 from 1956-1968. they weren’t a power in any sense of the word. Could it have been a different team! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Pinevale had a lifetime winning percentage of .654 from 1956-1968. they weren’t a power in any sense of the word. Could it have been a different team! Now now now nolebull Don't go be giving Lowndes fans any statistics or facts, they aren't intelligent enough to comprehend it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooverOutlaw Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 2 hours ago, MTP28 said: Everyone knows that HS football in Alabama is not as good as Georgia which releases Hoover from the conversation. Good for Alabama Georgia “not so much.” Too bad that Georgia has underachieved for 100 years in college football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP28 Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 58 minutes ago, Nolebull813 said: Pinevale had a lifetime winning percentage of .654 from 1956-1968. they weren’t a power in any sense of the word. Could it have been a different team! Pinevale had some of the best athletes anywhere. Beat the brakes of anything near or far from you there Junior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP28 Posted June 8, 2020 Report Share Posted June 8, 2020 32 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: Now now now nolebull Don't go be giving Lowndes fans any statistics or facts, they aren't intelligent enough to comprehend it Hey you run out of those free Disney discount tickets on the 1-75 ramp? Anyway I’m hearing some of those scrubs on that Columbia are wanting to come warm the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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