steeler01 Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, RedZone said: They don't win with Jay Schroeder...... What Doug Williams did was legendary in so many ways! Don't deny Doug! They won with Mark Rypien a few years later and the 87 defense dominated more in the playoffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 34 minutes ago, steeler01 said: I like Faulk and TD Hard to argue against those 2. I like them too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
181pl Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said: When confronted with the obvious stupidity of your statement this is all you can come up with. Right, the fan boy of Saint Thomas questions the quarterback that has been to 10 Super Bowls and won 7. It’s just a big coincidence I guess. 😅😂🤡. You’ve supported the dumbest argument ever. Brady’s record and records speak for itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
World Citizen Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 39 minutes ago, RedZone said: Yet everyone loves talking with RedZone about football. This is my show!...you are just a caller. LMAO. Well played. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 9 hours ago, steeler01 said: They won with Mark Rypien a few years later and the 87 defense dominated more in the playoffs Under Joe Gibbs the Redskins won 3 Super Bowls with 3 different quarterbacks. Doug Williams had a 49% completion percentage during that playoff run. A total passenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 9 hours ago, 181pl said: Right, the fan boy of Saint Thomas questions the quarterback that has been to 10 Super Bowls and won 7. There were no questions asked. He's been objectively lucky during that run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, Atticus Finch said: Doug Williams had a 49% completion percentage during that playoff run. A total passenger. Who cares? Doug Williams beat this guy in the Super Bowl badly. Ever heard of John Elway. Elway went 14/38 230 Yards 1 TD 3 INT in the that game. Instead of dumping on Doug Williams, dump on John Elway. John Elway as a player: 2× Super Bowl champion (XXXII, XXXIII) Super Bowl MVP (XXXIII) NFL Most Valuable Player (1987) NFL Man of the Year (1992) 3× Second-team All-Pro (1987, 1993, 1996) 9× Pro Bowl (1986, 1987, 1989, 1991, 1993, 1994, 1996–1998) NFL passing yards leader (1993) NFL 1990s All-Decade Team NFL 100th Anniversary All-Time Team Denver Broncos Ring of Fame Denver Broncos No. 7 retired Unanimous All-American (1982) Sammy Baugh Trophy (1982) 2× Pac-10 Player of the Year (1980, 1982) Stanford Cardinal No. 7 retired Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: Under Joe Gibbs the Redskins won 3 Super Bowls with 3 different quarterbacks. Doug Williams had a 49% completion percentage during that playoff run. A total passenger. Nah, Williams was much more than a passenger. Denver had all the momentum in the Super Bowl, forcing the Redskins to punt on every possession in the 1st Quarter. No team had come back from a 10 point deficit in the Super Bowl, and then the 2nd Quarter happened. Williams was almost perfect, completing 9 of 11 passes for over 200 yards and 4 touchdowns. They scored 35 straight points and had over 350 yeards of offense, all in the 2nd Quarter. Williams won the MVP award, after having answered thousands of times leading up to the game what it was like to be "the first black QB to start a Super Bowl." He had lots on his shoulders, and on that stage stepped up and played exceedingly well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: A total passenger. John Elway was a "total passenger"... 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 18 minutes ago, maxchoboian said: Nah, Williams was much more than a passenger. Denver had all the momentum in the Super Bowl, forcing the Redskins to punt on every possession in the 1st Quarter. No team had come back from a 10 point deficit in the Super Bowl, and then the 2nd Quarter happened. Williams was almost perfect, completing 9 of 11 passes for over 200 yards and 4 touchdowns. They scored 35 straight points and had over 350 yeards of offense, all in the 2nd Quarter. Williams won the MVP award, after having answered thousands of times leading up to the game what it was like to be "the first black QB to start a Super Bowl." He had lots on his shoulders, and on that stage stepped up and played exceedingly well. Atticus is simply amazing! Good post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 hours ago, RedZone said: Who cares? You do otherwise you wouldn't be lying about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, maxchoboian said: Nah, Williams was much more than a passenger. 👇 4 hours ago, Atticus Finch said: Under Joe Gibbs the Redskins won 3 Super Bowls with 3 different quarterbacks. Doug Williams had a 49% completion percentage during that playoff run. A total passenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, RedZone said: John Elway was a "total passenger"... 😄 They wouldn't have been there without Elway. Doug WIlliams was just the guy who got to take the snaps that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 14 hours ago, RedZone said: They don't win with Jay Schroeder...... They went 5-2 in games where Schroeder played the majority of the snaps and 3-2 when Williams did. They also went 3-0 with the replacement players. The previous year Schroeder went to the Pro Bowl. The next season they traded him and went with Doug Williams.......and finished 7-9. No way they would've won with Jay Schroeder! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliNorth Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, maxchoboian said: Nah, Williams was much more than a passenger. Denver had all the momentum in the Super Bowl, forcing the Redskins to punt on every possession in the 1st Quarter. No team had come back from a 10 point deficit in the Super Bowl, and then the 2nd Quarter happened. Williams was almost perfect, completing 9 of 11 passes for over 200 yards and 4 touchdowns. They scored 35 straight points and had over 350 yeards of offense, all in the 2nd Quarter. Williams won the MVP award, after having answered thousands of times leading up to the game what it was like to be "the first black QB to start a Super Bowl." He had lots on his shoulders, and on that stage stepped up and played exceedingly well. That Denver team in particular , was extremely weak . All those early 3 SB loss Elway teams were garbage compared to the NFC . Blaming Elway is like blaming Payton Manning for the blowout the broncos had with the " Legion of Boom " Seahawks . Those Bronco teams really had no chance against those type of teams . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cossacks Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 17 minutes ago, CaliNorth said: That Denver team in particular , was extremely weak . All those early 3 SB loss Elway teams were garbage compared to the NFC . Blaming Elway is like blaming Payton Manning for the blowout the broncos had with the " Legion of Boom " Seahawks . Those Bronco teams really had no chance against those type of teams . I remember watching the Redskins game at a party with a bunch of friends. Through the laughter all we kept saying was could there be a worse display of safety play at any level of football than Tony Lilly that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 29 minutes ago, CaliNorth said: That Denver team in particular , was extremely weak . All those early 3 SB loss Elway teams were garbage compared to the NFC . Blaming Elway is like blaming Payton Manning for the blowout the broncos had with the " Legion of Boom " Seahawks . Those Bronco teams really had no chance against those type of teams . Doug Williams was the superior QB on that day which was the only day that mattered. "Coming into Super Bowl XXII, the Broncos were favored to win (−3 as noted on the NFL Today show by Jimmy "the Greek" Snyder) because most experts thought both teams were equal in terms of talent with Elway presumed to be the superior quarterback to Williams." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 47 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Doug WIlliams was just the guy who got to take the snaps that day. and those snaps resulted in one the greatest Super Bowl performances in NFL history. What's your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, RedZone said: Doug Williams was the superior QB on that day which was the only day that mattered. RedZone now adding John Elway to his hit list. And all so he can fellate another mediocre QB because he has Louisiana ties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, RedZone said: and those snaps resulted in one the greatest Super Bowl performances in NFL history. What's your point? That two of the greatest flukes in Super Bowl history occurred in that game (Doug Williams and Timmy Smith) and yet people refuse to acknowledge that the offensive line and defense carried the team. All in service of the QB hero myth and good ole homerism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 39 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Schroeder Benched! End of Schroeder.. discussion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliNorth Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, RedZone said: Doug Williams was the superior QB on that day which was the only day that mattered. "Coming into Super Bowl XXII, the Broncos were favored to win (−3 as noted on the NFL Today show by Jimmy "the Greek" Snyder) because most experts thought both teams were equal in terms of talent with Elway presumed to be the superior quarterback to Williams." Broncos were also favored with P. Manning . I couldn't believe that when it happened. I could see that loss coming to Seattle miles away . Niners and Hawks were head and shoulders above the rest that season . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxchoboian Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, CaliNorth said: That Denver team in particular , was extremely weak . All those early 3 SB loss Elway teams were garbage compared to the NFC . Blaming Elway is like blaming Payton Manning for the blowout the broncos had with the " Legion of Boom " Seahawks . Those Bronco teams really had no chance against those type of teams . Pretty much. Elway carried them to those AFC championships. Denver opponents set a number of SB records in all these games where Elway fell short. Capped off by the still most lopsided margin of victory ever in a Super Bowl. NFC bastards. Giants 39, Broncos 20 Redskins 42, Broncos 10 49ers 55, Broncos 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, RedZone said: Benched! Was injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedZone Posted January 25, 2022 Report Share Posted January 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, Atticus Finch said: Was injured. After Schroeder's second benching in the final regular-season game, Williams took the team to the Super Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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