Roe v Wade gone??

[Ga96]

Logic doesn't exist with those idiots. I see a lot of projecting. Assuming because they are in the trumpy cult that those who don't agree are automatically liberal. 

Im convinced trumpys klan members don't know the different political followings and beliefs.

All this shows me is how for the republican party has fell from where it once was. 

I sit in the middle on this topic. I believe those who are raped or commit incest shouldn't be forced to give birth. Any state that forces them to should be made to pay for that child until its 18 baring any medical problems (disabilities should be covered lifelong) 

I also believe there are a bunch of people who shouldn't reproduce (plenty on here)

Also we need to demand adults to be adults when it comes to sex and stuff. 

[On2whls]

11 hours ago, Wildcat Will said:

Could be.

It will also kill the republicans.

They take up the most absurd causes.

Midterm outlook just changed.

Hmmm, since blacks already have the highest per capita rate of abortion, and that rate continues to increase relative to other ethnicities, does that mean this is racially motivated?   Denying abortions just another form of oppression?

[Wildcat Will]

2 hours ago, On2whls said:

Hmmm, since blacks already have the highest per capita rate of abortion, and that rate continues to increase relative to other ethnicities, does that mean this is racially motivated?   Denying abortions just another form of oppression?

It means that yet again women are by law not allowed to say what they can do with their own bodies.

[concha]

1 hour ago, Wildcat Will said:

It means that yet again women are by law not allowed to say what they can do with their own bodies.

 

What of the unborn child with its distinct body, DNA, perhaps separate sex...

This is interesting...

The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004 (Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes an embryo or fetus in utero as a legal victim, if they are injured or killed during the commission of any of over 60 listed federal crimes of violence. The law defines "child in utero" as "a member of the species Homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."^[1]

The law is codified in two sections of the United States Code: Title 18, Chapter 1 (Crimes), §1841 (18 USC 1841) and Title 10, Chapter 22 (Uniform Code of Military Justice) §919a (Article 119a).

 

...passed by a vote of 254 in favor to 163 against on February 26, 2004. After several amendments were rejected, it was passed in the Senate by a vote of 61-38 on March 25, 2004.

 

47 Dem representatives and 13 Dem senators voted for it.

 

[DBP66]

Polling on abortion helps explain uproar over Supreme Court leak on Roe v. Wade

 

 

Andrew Romano

·West Coast Correspondent

Tue, May 3, 2022, 6:41 PM

 

 

 

Protesters outside the Supreme Court on Tuesday after the leak of a draft opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito preparing for a majority of the court to overturn Roe v. Wade. (Evelyn Hockstein/Reuters)

A slew of recent polls showing most Americans want abortion to remain legal across the United States may help shed light on the uproar following Monday's report in Politico that five conservative Supreme Court justices seem poised to strike down Roe v. Wade, the landmark decision that established a constitutional right to abortion almost half a century ago.

Last month, only about 3 in 10 U.S. adults said the Supreme Court should overturn Roe v. Wade (30%) and transform abortion into a procedure that “individual states” are “able to outlaw” (27%), according to the most recent Yahoo News/YouGov survey.

In contrast, about twice as many Americans — a 54% majority — said in the same poll that abortion is “a constitutional right that women in all states should have some access to.”

[concha]

55 minutes ago, DBP66 said:

Polling on abortion helps explain uproar over Supreme Court leak on Roe v. Wade

 

 

Andrew Romano

·West Coast Correspondent

Tue, May 3, 2022, 6:41 PM

 

 

 

 

Protesters outside the Supreme Court on Tuesday after the leak of a draft opinion written by Justice Samuel Alito preparing for a majority of the court to overturn Roe v. Wade. (Evelyn Hockstein/Reuters)

A slew of recent polls showing most Americans want abortion to remain legal across the United States may help shed light on the uproar following Monday's report in Politico that five conservative Supreme Court justices seem poised to strike down Roe v. Wade, the landmark decision that established a constitutional right to abortion almost half a century ago.

Last month, only about 3 in 10 U.S. adults said the Supreme Court should overturn Roe v. Wade (30%) and transform abortion into a procedure that “individual states” are “able to outlaw” (27%), according to the most recent Yahoo News/YouGov survey.

In contrast, about twice as many Americans — a 54% majority — said in the same poll that abortion is “a constitutional right that women in all states should have some access to.”

 

Then you should have no problem that the proper constitutional decision is being made and the people will get to decide democratically.

👍

 

 

[DBP66]

28 minutes ago, concha said:

 

Then you should have no problem that the proper constitutional decision is being made and the people will get to decide democratically.

👍

 

 

this is the first time the S.C is changing established law....not good...the new righties on the court all lied their way on to the court saying it was established law...this isn't good for the republican party...it will come back to bite them....big time.

[concha]

9 minutes ago, DBP66 said:

this is the first time the S.C is changing established law....not good...the new righties on the court all lied their way on to the court saying it was established law...this isn't good for the republican party...it will come back to bite them....big time.

 

Bad decisions need to be corrected.  Plessy v. Ferguson anyone?

An overturn of Roe v. Wade does not prohibit abortion. It simply follows the constitution and leaves the decision where it belongs: the states.  

 

[DBP66]

6 minutes ago, concha said:

 

Bad decisions need to be corrected.  Plessy v. Ferguson anyone?

An overturn of Roe v. Wade does not prohibit abortion. It simply follows the constitution and leaves the decision where it belongs: the states.  

 

it's been established...several times...they are changing established law on probably THE MOST controversial issue out there...not smart....this does seem like it was a mission in the making by the hard right...they'll pay the price....30% doesn't cut it.

[concha]

6 minutes ago, DBP66 said:

it's been established...several times...they are changing established law on probably THE MOST controversial issue out there...not smart....this does seem like it was a mission in the making by the hard right...they'll pay the price....30% doesn't cut it.

 

The impact at the polls will be minimal.  

Per Pew, most people (about two-thirds) think there should be at least some restrictions on abortion.

The site ElectionBettingOdds has seen a only a minor impact on the Republicans' lead.

 

[DBP66]

37 minutes ago, concha said:

 

The impact at the polls will be minimal.  

Per Pew, most people (about two-thirds) think there should be at least some restrictions on abortion.

The site ElectionBettingOdds has seen a only a minor impact on the Republicans' lead.

 

time will tell...when and if it happens the right will lose a lot of votes IMO, they have the Christian right locked up on the abortion issue but that's not enough....this is a game changer for a lot of people. The younger generation and women will be a thing of the past for republicans.

[Ga96]

I forgot to mention that giving birth is very dangerous. In some cases abortions are needed to save lives. Forcing birth could end in multiple deaths at once.

[Ga96]

58 minutes ago, DBP66 said:

this is the first time the S.C is changing established law....not good...the new righties on the court all lied their way on to the court saying it was established law...this isn't good for the republican party...it will come back to bite them....big time.

I sure hope so. The republican party is out of control and a lot of those politicians should be in jail. There are many dems in the same boat but republicans blow them away when it comes to bigotry racism lawlessness etc... 

[concha]

28 minutes ago, DBP66 said:

time will tell...when and if it happens the right will lose a lot of votes IMO, they have the Christine right locked up on the abortion issue but that's not enough....this is a game changer for a lot of people. The younger generation and women will be a thing of the past for republicans.

 

This is a fantasy of the left.

As I said, about 2/3 of Americans think there should be limits on abortion including about 1 in 5 who think it s/b banned.  You don't have the numbers you think you do.

This it might come as a shock to you due to the decades of MSM propaganda you've ingested (and your general stupidity). The "legal under any circumstances" crowd amongst women is a minority. Most favor restrictions/limitations or outright banning.

 

[concha]

11 minutes ago, Ga96 said:

I sure hope so. The republican party is out of control and a lot of those politicians should be in jail. There are many dems in the same boat but republicans blow them away when it comes to bigotry racism lawlessness etc... 

 

Out of control.

🤣 🤡

Says the guy who fellates the party that's outraged if they can't talk sex with your 5 year-old.

 

[DBP66]

3 minutes ago, concha said:

 

This is a fantasy of the left.

As I said, about 2/3 of Americans think there should be limits on abortion including about 1 in 5 who think it s/b banned.  You don't have the numbers you think you do.

This it might come as a shock to you due to the decades of MSM propaganda you've ingested (and your general stupidity). The "legal under any circumstances" crowd amongst women is a minority. Most favor restrictions/limitations or outright banning.

 

30% doesn't cut it....you'll see Don....did the new S.C. righties lie their way onto the court?...that's what America knows/thinks now....😉

[FreeBird]

32 minutes ago, DBP66 said:

30% doesn't cut it....you'll see Don....did the new S.C. righties lie their way onto the court?...that's what America knows/thinks now....😉

Damn homie you really wanna kill babies that bad?

[DBP66]

16 minutes ago, FreeBird said:

Damn homie you really wanna kill babies that bad?

not at all homie...

[concha]

57 minutes ago, DBP66 said:

30% doesn't cut it....you'll see Don....did the new S.C. righties lie their way onto the court?...that's what America knows/thinks now....😉

 

Your inability to process numbers is not my problem.

November is still going to be a bloodbath.

Very few people rate abortion as a key voting issue.  Your people's looneys will scream and throw themselves on the floor and the MSM will do their best with their propaganda, but it just won't matter.

 

 

 

[DBP66]

2 minutes ago, concha said:

 

Your inability to process numbers is not my problem.

November is still going to be a bloodbath.

Very few people rate abortion as a key voting issue.  Your people's looneys will scream and throw themselves on the floor and the MSM will do their best with their propaganda, but it just won't matter.

 

 

 

half the population are women champ...they unleased "The Kraken"....😉

[concha]

23 hours ago - Politics & Policy

Democrats lack votes to end filibuster for abortion protections

Sens. Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema. Photo: Kent Nishimura/Los Angeles Times via Getty Images

Sens. Joe Manchin (D-W.V.) and Kyrsten Sinema (D-Ariz.) said Tuesday they plan to uphold the filibuster in the wake of the leaked draft decision from the U.S. Supreme Court on overturning Roe v. Wade.

[dan in daytona]

4 hours ago, concha said:

 

Bad decisions need to be corrected.  Plessy v. Ferguson anyone?

An overturn of Roe v. Wade does not prohibit abortion. It simply follows the constitution and leaves the decision where it belongs: the states.  

 

The Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a fundamental "right to privacy" that protects a pregnant woman's liberty to choose whether to have an abortion.

 

The rights of "States" can never supersede the US Constitution. From South Carolina (1861) onward that "States Rights" argument has falsely been trumpeted to use, abuse, deny, and own human beings, among other despicable actions, as a smoke screen to force others to comply against their best interest. 

Personally, I'm not for late term abortions (or teaching kindergarten students about sex for that matter either). Abortion is a woman's "rights" and her body issue. Conservatives are big on "Freedoms." Let each individual decide "with reasonable limits" . What's the new law in Texas ?  Banned 25 days after have sex ?  That's Bull$hit.....   

[concha]

Abortionist Worried He May Have To Become One Of Those Doctors That Helps People

Health

May 4th, 2022 - BabylonBee.com

 

SCHENECTADY, NY—With the looming threat that the undemocratic Supreme Court may overturn Roe v. Wade and remove federal abortion protections, local abortionist Dr. Chester Redrum expressed concern that he may have to become one of those doctors that helps people.

After years of allowing thousands of men and women to enjoy convenience and careers by killing their unborn babies, Dr. Redrum was now trying to understand how it's possible to use his skills to help people by means of non-murder.

"I just read the Hippocratic Oath and was blown away," said the abortionist while taking a tour of a hospital filled with failed abortions that, rather than being cut into pieces and tagged for sale, were wrapped in colorful blankets, wearing cute little knit hats, and allowed to breathe. "So much money, wasted!"

Dr. Redrum gasped in shock as a nurse rushed past, pushing a wheelchair filled with something he had never seen in his life. When he asked what a male patient was doing in this medical facility, the nurse kindly explained that the man was to have his inflamed appendix removed.

"Ah yes, to sell for money, got it," said Dr. Redrum.

"Um, no, to save his life," replied the nurse to the confused doctor.

At publishing time, the abortionist considered becoming a gender transition surgeon, where he could at least feel the satisfaction of irreversibly ruining entire lives and possibly increasing suicide rates.

[DBP66]

18 minutes ago, dan in daytona said:

The Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a fundamental "right to privacy" that protects a pregnant woman's liberty to choose whether to have an abortion.

 

The rights of "States" can never supersede the US Constitution. From South Carolina (1861) onward that "States Rights" argument has falsely been trumpeted to use, abuse, deny, and own human beings, among other despicable actions, as a smoke screen to force others to comply against their best interest. 

Personally, I'm not for late term abortions (or teaching kindergarten students about sex for that matter either). Abortion is a woman's "rights" and her body issue. Conservatives are big on "Freedoms." Let each individual decide "with reasonable limits" . What's the new law in Texas ?  Banned 25 days after have sex ?  That's Bull$hit.....   

and then you neighbor gets $10,000 for ratting you out?!?...wtf!!

[concha]

18 minutes ago, dan in daytona said:

The Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution provides a fundamental "right to privacy" that protects a pregnant woman's liberty to choose whether to have an abortion.

 

The rights of "States" should never supersede the US Constitution. From South Carolina (1861) onward that "States Rights" argument has falsely been trumpeted to use, abuse, deny, and own human beings, among other despicable actions, as a smoke screen to force others to comply against their best interest. 

Personally, I'm not for late term abortions (or teaching kindergarten students about sex for that matter either). Abortion is a woman's "rights" and her body issue. Conservatives are big on "Freedoms." Let each individual decide "with reasonable limits" . What's the new law in Texas ?  Banned 25 days after have sex ?  That's Bull$hit.....   

Casual observers of the Supreme Court who came to the Law School to hear Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg speak about Roe v. Wade likely expected a simple message from the longtime defender of reproductive and women’s rights: Roe was a good decision.

Those more acquainted with Ginsburg and her thoughtful, nuanced approach to difficult legal questions were not surprised, however, to hear her say just the opposite, that Roe was a faulty decision. For Ginsburg, the landmark 1973 Supreme Court decision that affirmed a woman’s right to an abortion was too far-reaching and too sweeping, and it gave anti-abortion rights activists a very tangible target to rally against in the four decades since.

Ginsburg and Professor Geoffrey Stone, a longtime scholar of reproductive rights and constitutional law, spoke for 90 minutes before a capacity crowd in the Law School auditorium on May 11 on “Roe v. Wade at 40.”

“My criticism of Roe is that it seemed to have stopped the momentum on the side of change,” Ginsburg said. She would’ve preferred that abortion rights be secured more gradually, in a process that included state legislatures and the courts, she added. Ginsburg also was troubled that the focus on Roe was on a right to privacy, rather than women’s rights.

“Roe isn’t really about the woman’s choice, is it?” Ginsburg said. “It’s about the doctor’s freedom to practice…it wasn’t woman-centered, it was physician-centered.”