Pops Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Just now, ECHS05 said: Correct. Good example of a human flaw because that idea is yours, you overweight the importance of it just thought I’d mention since that’s all you seem to be able to say about anyone outside of GA lasr year, it was exhs’s 24/7 recruit poll and sounds like this year it’ll be “RETURNING STARTERS” what will it be next year and if not then, when will results be the most important data? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammyswordsman Posted July 2, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: We do? Yea. The Tiers is crowd sourced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Pops said: There were 3 in top 18 — even the NJ guys were blushing with embarrassment I like to think most NJ guys are more commendable I think I'm pretty honest every year how the BNU teams stack up..... most other state homers on here will justify any quality ranking even when its undeserved .... that's just the fantasy land some people chose to live in ..... BC and SJR in 20-30 range like Mickey said.... drop SPP and DePaul to 65-85 range , with no bosco or pc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjd33 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 But Grayson definitely deserves to be preseason 3 that I know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Mjd33 said: But Grayson definitely deserves to be preseason 3 that I know! Lol... Talent wise perhaps... Unproven coaching, & unproven QB. Id say Grayson should be in the 20-30 range... TO ME atleast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 24 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: For those craving an unbiased, ultra knowledgeable poll. L M F A O Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, Pops said: Good example of a human flaw because that idea is yours, you overweight the importance of it just thought I’d mention since that’s all you seem to be able to say about anyone outside of GA lasr year, it was exhs’s 24/7 recruit poll and sounds like this year it’ll be “RETURNING STARTERS” what will it be next year and if not then, when will results be the most important data? @Pops what do you think of Folsom and DLSs spot on this ranking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, golfaddict1 said: http://highschoolfootballamerica.com/a-look-at-the-national-rankings-after-two-months/ Freeman had 17 employees in 2009 — it’s not a 1-man show http://www.marinij.com/general-news/20091224/prep-sports-on-the-web-former-drake-hoops-standout-ned-freeman-makes-the-most-of-stats-passion “State scaling” is a bogeyman for people that don’t like where their hometown team is the attached article makes it more clear that fishers is an opinion poll just like USAT (which also claims to reference an algorithm) im confused also why he would be bragging about ID’ing teams in the preseason with his algorithm — how does an algorithm (which relies on data) produce anything of value until it has data to input Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, FolsomPrisonBlues said: @Pops what do you think of Folsom and DLSs spot on this ranking? No protests i think they’re both a little bit low but nothing objectionable I’ve said 3/4 or 4/3 in CA so agree with their closeness in fishers poll I’m sure PG threads were as influential as anything else to him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Just now, Pops said: No protests i think they’re both a little bit low but nothing objectionable I’ve said 3/4 or 4/3 in CA so agree with their closeness in fishers poll I’m sure PG threads were as influential as anything else to him Any prediction on score between the two week 0? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Pops said: Freeman had 17 employees in 2009 — it’s not a 1-man show http://www.marinij.com/general-news/20091224/prep-sports-on-the-web-former-drake-hoops-standout-ned-freeman-makes-the-most-of-stats-passion “State scaling” is a bogeyman for people that don’t like where their hometown team is the attached article makes it more clear that fishers is an opinion poll just like USAT (which also claims to reference an algorithm) im confused also why he would be bragging about ID’ing teams in the preseason with his algorithm — how does an algorithm (which relies on data) produce anything of value until it has data to input Haha ... It was important enough for him to create a new page called "State Scaling" on his website (after I spoke on it for years)... Explaining what it means, and how he tried to add it. Idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodysurf Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Don’t know if really a mistake but I am surprised JSerra from the Trinity league is not ranked. They should battle it out with Olu for 3/4 place in league. Lot of people in SoCal are thinking JSerra is better than Olu (although OLu is loaded at the skill positions and Hillinski has really elevated his game to another level). I was expecting JSerra to be ranked similarly to Olu. I wonder if the algorithm took into account the transfers that JSerra got? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pops Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 Just now, FolsomPrisonBlues said: Any prediction on score between the two week 0? Both teams are going to score; I think DLS will get an extra stop somewhere 35-28 something like that could go either way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolsomPrisonBlues Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Pops said: Both teams are going to score; I think DLS will get an extra stop somewhere 35-28 something like that could go either way Very fair assessment. I think there are many unknowns since these teams are much different than the ones that met in 2012/2013. Very intriguing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECHS05 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 My own personal Top 25, for atleast right now... 1. St. John Bosco CA 2. IMG Academy USA 3. Mater Dei CA 4. Lake Travis TX 5. St. John's DC 6. Allen TX 7. Bishop Gorman NV 8. St. Thomas Aquinas FL 9. North Gwinnett FL 10. Cardinal Gibbons FL 11. Chandler AZ 12. University Lab LA 13. St. Frances Academy MD 14. Dutch Fork SC (my darkhorse) 15. Marietta GA 16. Archbishop Hoban OH 17. Katy TX 18. Corona Centennial CA 19. Westlake (Austin) TX 20. DeMatha MD 21. Bergen Catholic NJ 22. Pickerington Central OH 23. Grayson GA 24. St. Joseph Regional NJ 25. De La Salle CA 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawgGoneIt Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 57 minutes ago, Columbiafan said: We do? I just selected the first random installment that I could come across. Mayhap you could notice that Fisher took our last poll Folsom at 24 and placed them there to start 2018. Hence why 24 is forever stricken from the rolls of arithmetic sequences and numerology everywhere starting on this day at 9:37 a.m. est. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiberalDonaldTrump Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 9 minutes ago, ECHS05 said: My own personal Top 25, for atleast right now... 1. St. John Bosco CA 2. IMG Academy USA 3. Mater Dei CA 4. Lake Travis TX 5. St. John's DC 6. Allen TX 7. Bishop Gorman NV 8. St. Thomas Aquinas FL 9. North Gwinnett FL 10. Cardinal Gibbons FL 11. Chandler AZ 12. University Lab LA 13. St. Frances Academy MD 14. Dutch Fork SC (my darkhorse) 15. Marietta GA 16. Archbishop Hoban OH 17. Katy TX 18. Corona Centennial CA 19. Westlake (Austin) TX 20. DeMatha MD 21. Bergen Catholic NJ 22. Pickerington Central OH 23. Grayson GA 24. St. Joseph Regional NJ 25. De La Salle CA My rebuttal is sjr will have more D1 players on current roster so I’d put sjr at 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frosty4024 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said: Question #1 For 2018 Entry test to post on PG. 1. Circle the team that doesn't belong in the group #22 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abel_559 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 3 hours ago, FolsomPrisonBlues said: At least get it right. Its week 0 you clown. Jesus. I think you are slow @Sammyswordsman with all your fake names. Dude cant even remember the weeks right. Folsom by 10. Don’t listen to these pranksters, Folsom is going to surprise a lot of people. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosinc Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Columbiafan said: We do? Well, not you ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosinc Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, ECHS05 said: Haha ... It was important enough for him to create a new page called "State Scaling" on his website (after I spoke on it for years)... Explaining what it means, and how he tried to add it. Idiot. I appreciate that you get exasperated, but it’s unnecesary postscripts like this that put you in the Canes/los Hurricanés/Carlos Danger/LOSer/Guccifer/Goldmember/and now Guccifer again category. That is: not to be taken seriously. It’s solid enough to state your case and let the facts make your arguement. You don’t need gratuitous insults. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfaddict1 Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Pops said: Freeman had 17 employees in 2009 — it’s not a 1-man show Maybe they helped him realize NY is not a power state ahead of GA and FL at 8th and 9th (09 correction goodies). Who knows what their role was, could have all been programmers. It’s his name, it’s his show. It’s his corrections thru the years and it’s his state scale addition added to the forum. http://www.marinij.com/general-news/20091224/prep-sports-on-the-web-former-drake-hoops-standout-ned-freeman-makes-the-most-of-stats-passion “State scaling” is a bogeyman for people that don’t like where their hometown team is Scaling is an integral part of the algorithm process. With a hsfb rating system the scale has to be state based. Massey does it and Fisher does too. How they set it up w data points is how the algorithms differ (along with playoff boost and other factors of difference like min/max pts earned for example). the attached article makes it more clear that fishers is an opinion poll just like USAT (which also claims to reference an algorithm) Massey is the USA Today computer poll and its 100 pct algorithm just like Freeman and just like this poll after preseason. Read the article again. im confused also why he would be bragging about ID’ing teams in the preseason with his algorithm — how does an algorithm (which relies on data) produce anything of value until it has data to input Thats his secret sauce He mentioned his opinion is used in preseason using trends of some sort and mentions all about the preseason guessing vs regular season algorithm in the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, ECHS05 said: My own personal Top 25, for atleast right now... 1. St. John Bosco CA 2. IMG Academy USA 3. Mater Dei CA 4. Lake Travis TX 5. St. John's DC 6. Allen TX 7. Bishop Gorman NV 8. St. Thomas Aquinas FL 9. North Gwinnett FL 10. Cardinal Gibbons FL 11. Chandler AZ 12. University Lab LA 13. St. Frances Academy MD 14. Dutch Fork SC (my darkhorse) 15. Marietta GA 16. Archbishop Hoban OH 17. Katy TX 18. Corona Centennial CA 19. Westlake (Austin) TX 20. DeMatha MD 21. Bergen Catholic NJ 22. Pickerington Central OH 23. Grayson GA 24. St. Joseph Regional NJ 25. De La Salle CA Thanks for giving us North Gwinnett We will enjoy the extra top 10 team 😂 Sta best in FL? They aren't even as good as 2016 version of sta But whatever it's your list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 26 minutes ago, Wosinc said: Well, not you ... What is that supposed to mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Columbiafan Posted July 2, 2018 Report Share Posted July 2, 2018 1 hour ago, ECHS05 said: My own personal Top 25, for atleast right now... 1. St. John Bosco CA 2. IMG Academy USA 3. Mater Dei CA 4. Lake Travis TX 5. St. John's DC 6. Allen TX 7. Bishop Gorman NV 8. St. Thomas Aquinas FL 9. North Gwinnett FL 10. Cardinal Gibbons FL 11. Chandler AZ 12. University Lab LA 13. St. Frances Academy MD 14. Dutch Fork SC (my darkhorse) 15. Marietta GA 16. Archbishop Hoban OH 17. Katy TX 18. Corona Centennial CA 19. Westlake (Austin) TX 20. DeMatha MD 21. Bergen Catholic NJ 22. Pickerington Central OH 23. Grayson GA 24. St. Joseph Regional NJ 25. De La Salle CA St Thomas Aquinas in 2016 finished close to where you have them starting when they had a much better team Now either a lot of national powerhouses are down or you are likely over ranking st Thomas Aquinas Top 5 in FL yeah definitely Top 10 in nation and number 1 in FL, doubtful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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