Horsefly Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 26 minutes ago, Eddyr2 said: yep...and you never really know who is the real state champ...In Cali it's the "Open Bowl Champ" and no one thinks it's the D1 AA champ. No one thinks Folsom would beat MD last year...the 2 best teams play in the final game of the year...that happens sometimes in Texas but can't be guaranteed There is 1 champion. Division 1'and 2 are really separate classes defined by population during the playoffs (per district). There are 125 teams in each division. It will be permanent in a few cycles like it is in 5A and below. The districts will be classified as dovision 1 and 2. Instead of creating additional classes they've done it this way. Hope it helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ararar Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 29 minutes ago, Horsefly said: No we don't need to do that. 2 of the divisions on the list include the entire 6A classification. That's ~250' teams, that's impressive, it's not a section of a playoff like CA. How many teams are represented in the CIF southern section? Almost 400 schools in Southern section broken up into 13 playoff brackets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ararar said: Almost 400 schools in Southern section broken up into 13 playoff brackets How many division 1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal 14 Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, Horsefly said: How many division 1? That's not how it's set up. The top 18 teams out of the 386 (the actual number) are placed in D-I (using recent history as the measurement). There are 18 teams in D-II and 19 in D-III. The concept is that any of the 18 D-I teams would win D-II or D-III. Any of the D-II teams would win D-III, etc. It doesn't always work like that, but that's the concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal 14 Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, Horsefly said: How many division 1? triple-post. we need a delete button 😑 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, PrepGridiron said: Folsom is infiltrating the minds of San Antonio folks (watch video). Hahahaha https://www.kens5.com/article/sports/high-school/is-california-high-school-football-better-than-texas-high-school-football-preseason-rankings-say-so/273-575987802 No comments section? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 39 minutes ago, Eddyr2 said: yep...and you never really know who is the real state champ...In Cali it's the "Open Bowl Champ" and no one thinks it's the D1 AA champ. No one thinks Folsom would beat MD last year...the 2 best teams play in the final game of the year...that happens sometimes in Texas but can't be guaranteed I have never understood that about tejas. Being a co-champ every year would suck! Probably as bad as being the D1AA champ here in Cali. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AztecPadre Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, Horsefly said: There is 1 champion. Division 1'and 2 are really separate classes defined by population during the playoffs (per district). There are 125 teams in each division. It will be permanent in a few cycles like it is in 5A and below. The districts will be classified as dovision 1 and 2. Instead of creating additional classes they've done it this way. Hope it helps. Has there ever been a time when you thought the D2 champ was better than D1 or vice versa? Y'all need 1 state champ. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Cal 14 said: That's not how it's set up. The top 18 teams out of the 386 (the actual number) are placed in D-I (using recent history as the measurement). There are 18 teams in D-II and 19 in D-III. The concept is that any of the 18 D-I teams would win D-II or D-III. Any of the D-II teams would win D-III, etc. It doesn't always work like that, but that's the concept. That's significantly different, so there are only 18'teams in the D1 playoffs.Then after the southern section championships they play for the open div state championship,. There are 64 playoff teams in Texas for EACH 6A division championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, AztecPadre said: Has there ever been a time when you thought the D2 champ was better than D1 or vice versa? Y'all need 1 state champ. A few times, but it's no different in a state where a lower class is better than a bigger class. We will permanently separate the class into divisions broken by population, we have over 90 schools that are 3,000 or bigger. They will be permanent D1 schools. (They could create 7A, but they are going this way. 5A and below are already under this concept) Katy, lake Travis and Allen of course are all in this size group. for public schools these size differences are relevant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted July 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: That's significantly different, so there are only 18'teams in the D1 playoffs.Then after the southern section championships they play for the open div state championship,. There are 64 playoff teams in Texas for EACH 6A division championship you can have 128 but if 120 are tomato cans who cares how many teams you have... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Eddyr2 said: you can have 128 but if 120 are tomato cans who cares how many teams you have... They're not all tomato cans. Keep in mind one of those tomato cans was the team that beat Trinity in 2015 in the playoffs. Last year, "tomato can" Rockwall knocked off state ranked woodlands in the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted July 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Horsefly said: A few times, but it's no different in a state where a lower class is better than a bigger class. that's the thing...that wont happen in California, since in the last game of the year the #1 team from the North plays the #1 team from the South...It's like playing College football in TU...classes don't matter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted July 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Horsefly said: They're not all tomato cans. Keep in mind one of those tomato cans was the team that beat Trinity in 2015 in the playoffs. Last year, "tomato can" Rockwall knocked off state ranked woodlands in the first round. still would rather get the best 16 team in one bracket...Winner get's DLS in the real State Bowl Game... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Eddyr2 said: that's the thing...that wont happen in California, since in the last game of the year the #1 team from the North plays the #1 team from the South...It's like playing College football in TU...classes don't matter That's because you guys are private school dominated where school size isn't a factor Different rules of engagement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Just now, Eddyr2 said: still would rather get the best 16 team in one bracket...Winner get's DLS in the real State Bowl Game... And how do you decide who goes D1, D2 or D3? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted July 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 BTW @Horsefly no need to argue...it's Friday afternoon...lets just get ready to party... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Just now, Eddyr2 said: BTW @Horsefly no need to argue...it's Friday afternoon...lets just get ready to party... I'm not arguing. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted July 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Just now, Horsefly said: And how do you decide who goes D1, D2 or D3? in the CIF-SS they rank every school every year, based on the past 2 years. It's alot like the EPL...if you haven't been good the last two years you get relegated down a division. If you win D2 one year, most likely you will be moved up to D1 the next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted July 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Horsefly said: I'm not arguing. Lol why yes we are: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Eddyr2 said: in the CIF-SS they rank every school every year, based on the past 2 years. It's alot like the EPL...if you haven't been good the last two years you get relegated down a division. If you win D2 one year, most likely you will be moved up to D1 the next year. So it's the HS version of the BCS. Thanks. Gotta run, have a great weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted July 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Just now, Eddyr2 said: why yes we are: by that i mean the 1st not 2nd meaning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 5 minutes ago, Eddyr2 said: why yes we are: I'm not, I'm discussing and asking questions. I'm educating you guys on the UIL you are educating me on the CIF playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddyr2 Posted July 20, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Just now, Horsefly said: So it's the HS version of the BCS. Thanks. Gotta run, have a great weekend. better then just going by school population Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsefly Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 9 minutes ago, Eddyr2 said: better then just going by school population Again see my post on publics vs privates. Population is more relevant under one type of sports system. Anyways you guys enjoy your exciting playoffs between MD and SJB, I’m sure it will be intriguing. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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