4-Poll Preseason Top 100 Compilation

[ECHS05]

**Ive got a couple things to fix and clean up in this post, but the initial Top 100 is done, so I wanted to go ahead and get it out, and Ill continue editing after**

 

A Preseason Top 100 Compilation Poll using rankings from MaxPreps, CalPreps, HSFA, and The ECHS05 Top 100 ... (Its actually more than 100, as theres a lot of different teams ranked by each poll, but only the Top 100 was used from each poll to compile these rankings)

The MaxPreps Top 100 appears to be an expansion on the previous MaxPreps Xcellent Top 25... For those who didn't notice.

 

--- I added +10 points to each team for every poll they made to give them credit for making it in a ranking ... So #1 in a poll, gets 110 points and on down til #100 gets 11 ---

(Ties will go to the team that appeared in the most polls, if still tied itll go to the team that achieved the highest single ranking in the 4 polls)

 

The ECHS05MaxPrepsHSFACalPreps Compilation Top 100:

1-25:

1. St. John Bosco CA ... 109 + 110 + 107 + 109 = 435

2. Mater Dei CA ... 108 + 109 + 110 + 108 = 435

3. IMG Academy USA ... 110 + 108 + 106 + 110 = 434

4. St. John's DC ... 106 + 105 + 102 + 106 = 419

5. Allen TX ... 105 + 107 + 109 + 97 = 418

6. St. Frances Academy MD ... 98 + 104 + 96 + 107 = 405

7. Grayson GA ... 91 + 106 + 108 + 96 = 401

8. St. Thomas Aquinas FL ... 99 + 103 + 94 + 104 = 400

9. Chandler AZ ... 103 + 101 + 89 + 101 =  394

10. Bishop Gorman NV ... 104 + 100 + 101 + 80 = 385

11. Lake Travis TX ... 107 + 102 + 95 + 55 =  359

12. Hoover AL ... 87 + 90 + 105 + 74 = 356

13. Cardinal Gibbons FL ... 102 + 91 + 73 + 90 = 356

14. De La Salle CA ... 89 + 93 + 85 + 88 = 355

15. Bergen Catholic NJ ... 93 + 88 + 103 + 70 = 354

16. Folsom CA ... 69 + 92 + 87 + 105 = 353

17. Archbishop Hoban OH ... 92 + 79 + 84 + 93 = 348

18. Marietta GA ... 95 + 96 + 54 + 92 = 337

19. University Lab LA ... 100 + 78 + 64 + 94 = 336

20. Mission Viejo CA ... 79 + 74 + 82 + 100 = 335

21. Orange Lutheran CA ... 75 + 83 + 69 + 102 = 329

22. Corona Centennial CA ... 86 + 94 + 71 + 69 = 320

23. St. Louis HI ... 77 + 99 + 38 + 103 = 317

24. Pickerington Central OH ... 60 + 89 + 100 + 66 = 315

25. Colquitt Co. GA ... 80 + 84 + 74 + 75 = 313

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# Of Teams From Each State In The Top 25:

7 - CA 

3 - GA

2 - FL , MD/DC , OH , TX 

1 - AL , AZ , HI , LA , NV , NJ , USA 

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26-50:

26. Trinity (Louisville) KY ... 84 + 82 + 88 + 56 = 310

27. DeMatha MD ... 97 + 77 + 58 + 73 = 305

28. Katy TX ... 94 + 97 + 90 + 13 = 294

29. North Gwinnett GA ... 101 + 73 + 50 + 65 = 289

30. Rome GA ... 62 + 80 + 61 + 84 = 287

31. Saguaro AZ ... 68 + 51 + 79 + 76 = 274

32. Warren Central IN ... 63 + 85 + 92 + 26 = 266

33. Narbonne CA ... 52 + 87 + 35 + 91 = 265

34. Bingham UT ... 34 + 95 + 62 + 67 = 258

35. North Shore TX ... 71 + 67 + 81 + 38 = 257

36. Archer GA ... 55 + 86 + 45 + 68 = 254

37. Good Counsel MD ... 78 + 54 + 104 + 16 = 252

38. DePaul Catholic NJ ... 37 + 76 + 98 + 41 = 252

39. Wekiva FL ... 72 + 63 + 29 + 85 = 249

40. St. Joseph Regional NJ ... 90 + 62 + 93 + 0 = 245

41. Oaks Christian CA ... 66 + 69 + 0 + 99 = 234

42. Brentwood Academy TN ... 57 + 47 + 80 + 46 = 230

43. Chaminade-Madonna FL ... 64 + 31 + 48 + 86 = 229

44. Dutch Fork SC ... 96 + 46 + 86 + 0 = 228

45. Owasso OK ... 73 + 41 + 91 + 22 = 227

46. Thompson AL ... 46 + 71 + 57 + 53 = 227

47. Hewitt-Trussville AL ... 30 + 70 + 83 + 40 = 223

48. St. Josephs Prep PA ... 45 + 75 + 99 + 0 = 219

49. Westlake (Austin) TX ... 85 + 65 + 68 + 0 = 218

50. Aledo TX ... 48 + 58 + 70 + 35 = 211

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# Of Teams From Each State In The Top 50:

9 - CA

6 - GA , TX 

4 - FL ,  MD/DC 

3 - AL , NJ

2 - AZ , OH

1 - HI , IN , KY , LA , NV , OK , PA , SC , TN , UT , USA

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51-75:

51. Buford GA ... 49 + 22 + 53 + 78 = 202

52. Duncanville TX ... 76 + 81 + 43 + 0 = 200

53. St. Peter's Prep NJ ... 59 + 43 + 39 + 57 = 198

54. Miami Central FL ... 0 + 98 + 97 + 0 = 195

55. American Heritage (Plantation) FL ... 50 + 68 + 56 + 18 = 192

56. Converse Judson TX ... 88 + 45 + 52 + 0 = 185

57. Chaminade CA ... 35 + 49 + 37 + 59 = 180

58. Colerain OH ... 70 + 50 + 30 + 24 = 174

59. Central (Phenix City) AL ... 28 + 21 + 72 + 50 = 171

60. Lincoln-Way East IL ... 44 + 0 + 46 + 81 = 171

61. North Little Rock AR ... 83 + 0 + 0 + 87 = 170

62. South Pointe SC ... 36 + 57 + 76 + 0 = 169

63. Serra (Gardena) CA ... 0 + 64 + 0 + 98 = 162

64. Pittsburg CA ... 21 + 44 + 17 + 79 = 161

65. McEachern GA ... 31 + 39 + 26 + 63 = 159

66. St. Edward OH ... 81 + 0 + 78 + 0 = 159

67. St. Ignatius OH ... 56 + 29 + 36 + 36 = 157

68. Cajon CA ... 0 + 60 + 0 + 95 = 155

69. Upland CA ... 0 + 66 + 0 + 89 = 155

70. Blessed Trinity GA ... 17 + 38 + 15 + 82 = 152

71. Oakland TN ... 54 + 0 + 55 + 43 = 152

72. Deerfield Beach FL ... 0 + 59 + 23 + 61 = 143

73. Carol City FL ... 61 + 72 + 0 + 0 = 133

74. Walton GA ... 22 + 37 + 0 + 71 = 130

75. Muskegon MI ... 74 + 23 + 0 + 30 = 127

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# Of Teams From Each State In The Top 75:

 

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76-100:

76. Southlake Carroll TX ... 32 + 61 + 34 + 0 = 127

77. Mentor OH ... 0 + 48 + 75 + 0 = 123

78. Christian Brothers MO ... 29 + 13 + 0 + 77 = 119

79. Mallard Creek NC ... 0 + 52 + 67 + 0 = 119

80. Union (Tulsa) OK ... 51 + 0 + 65 + 0 = 116

81. Cy-Fair TX ... 82 + 0 + 21 + 0 = 103

82. Venice FL ... 33 + 0 + 41 + 28 = 102

83. T.L. Hanna SC ... 58 + 0 + 0 + 42 = 100

84. Imhotep Charter PA ... 0 + 36 + 63 + 0 = 99

85. Euless Trinity TX ... 0 + 20 + 77 + 0 = 97

86. East (Salt Lake City) UT ... 0 + 35 + 60 + 0 = 95

87. St. Xavier OH ... 23 + 27 + 44 + 0 = 94

88. Catholic (Baton Rouge) LA ... 67 + 0 + 25 + 0 = 92

89. Klein Collins TX ... 42 + 32 + 16 + 0 = 90

90. Longview TX ... 39 + 15 + 0 + 34 = 88

91. Phillips IL ... 38 + 0 + 49 + 0 = 87

92. Punahou HI ... 0 + 11 + 0 + 72 = 83

93. Bishop Dunne TX ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 83 = 83

94. Mansfield Legacy TX ... 12 + 34 + 0 + 31 = 77

95. Pulaski Academy AR ... 0 + 25 + 31 + 21 = 77

96. Pinson Valley AL ... 43 + 33 + 0 + 0 = 76

97. M.L. King MI ... 24 + 0 + 0 + 51 = 75

98. Loyola Academy IL ... 47 + 0 + 24 + 0 = 71

99. Starkville MS ... 26 + 0 + 0 + 45 = 71

100. Edna Karr LA ... 40 + 17 + 13 + 0 = 70

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# Of Teams From Each State In The Top 100:

 

The Next 25: 101-125

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101. Kahuku HI ... 0 + 19 + 0 + 48 = 67

102. Liberty NV ... 0 + 0 + 66 + 0 = 66

103. Miami Northwestern FL ... 0 + 26 + 12 + 27 = 65

104. Zachary LA ... 65 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 65

105. Erie Cathedral Prep PA ... 0 + 24 + 40 + 0 = 64

106. Orem UT ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 64 = 64

107. Calabasas CA ... 0 + 40 + 0 + 23 = 63

108. Newton TX ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 62 =62

109. Maryville TN ... 27 + 0 + 33 + 0 = 60

110. Murrieta Valley CA ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 60 = 60

111. Armwood FL ... 0 + 0 + 59 + 0 = 59

112. Serra (San Mateo) CA ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 58 = 58

113. JSerra CA ... 0 + 56 + 0 + 0 = 56

114. Eastside Catholic WA ... 0 + 55 + 0 + 0 = 55

115. Cedar Grove GA ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 54 = 54

116. Immokalee FL ... 53 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 53

117. DeSoto TX ... 0 + 53 + 0 + 0 = 53

118. Bishop Miege KS ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 52 = 52

119. John Curtis LA ... 0 + 0 + 51 + 0 = 51

120. St. Pius X TX ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 49 = 49

121. Cass Tech MI ... 0 + 0 + 47 + 0 = 47

122. Trinity Christian (Cedar Hill) TX ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 47 = 47

123. Prestonwood Christian TX ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 44 = 44

124. Gonzaga DC ... 0 + 42 + 0 + 0 = 42

125. Center Grove IN ... 0 + 0 + 42 + 0 = 42

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The Last 33 ... I think Pinnacle AZ may be the most underrated team in America this Preseason. My poll was the only 1 to rank them within their Top 100. I think Spencer Rattlers' senior season is going to be a strong one.

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Perry AZ ... 41 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 41

West Point MS ... 20 + 0 + 20 + 0 = 40

Skyridge UT ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 39 = 39

Eden Prairie MN ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 37 = 37

Harding University NC ... 0 + 14 + 22 + 0 = 36

Warren Easton LA ... 15 + 0 + 0 + 20 = 35

La Salle OH ... 19 + 0 + 0 + 14 = 33

Lufkin TX ... 14 + 0 + 0 + 19 = 33

Hough NC ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 33 = 33

Evangel Christian LA ... 0 + 0 + 32 + 0 = 32

Charlotte Catholic NC ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 32 = 32

Miami Southridge FL ... 0 + 30 + 0 + 0 = 30

Southern Columbia Area PA ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 29 = 29

Trotwood-Madison OH ... 0 + 28 + 0 + 0 = 28

Elder OH ... 0 + 0 + 28 + 0 = 28

Plant FL ... 0 + 0 + 27 + 0 = 27

Carmel IN ... 25 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 25

Charlotte Christian NC ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 25 = 25

Byrnes SC ... 0 + 0 + 19 + 0 = 19

Westfield VA ... 0 + 0 + 18 + 0 = 18

Westfield TX ... 18 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 18

Trinity Catholic MO ... 0 + 18 + 0 + 0 = 18

Liberty (Brentwood) CA ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 17 = 17

Apopka FL ... 16 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 16

Cibolo Steele TX ... 0 + 16 + 0 + 0 = 16

Ben Davis IN ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 15 = 15

Odessa Permian TX ... 0 + 0 + 14 + 0 = 14

Pinnacle AZ ... 13 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 13

Wake Forest NC ... 0 + 12 + 0 + 0 = 12

Jesuit CA ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 12 = 12 

Milton GA ... 0 + 0 + 0 + 11 = 11

Maine South IL ... 11 + 0 + 0 + 0 = 11

Waco Midway TX ... 0 + 0 + 11 + 0 = 11

 

[The Colonel]

CA dominating. Thanks. 

[BUFORDGAWOLVES]

My eye is not twitching on this one and that’s a good thing. 

Looks good, we’ll see what the rest of the gang has to say. 

Regards

BGW

[HawgGoneIt]

8 minutes ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said:

My eye is not twitching on this one and that’s a good thing. 

Looks good, we’ll see what the rest of the gang has to say. 

Regards

BGW

The comp polls always help level out some of the weird placements, so they do look better.

Still a few what the fucks in there but, hell it's preseason.

[RedZone]

peanut poll now in the compilation.

#GodBlesstheinternet

[ECHS05]

2 minutes ago, The Colonel said:

CA dominating. Thanks. 

MaxPreps & CalPreps in particular were CA heavy ...

Overall in the Compilation

CA:

7 in the Top 25

14 in the Top 100

 

Whays crazy to me is Florida only has 2 Top 25, and 9 Top 100.

Georgia has 3 Top 25, and 10 Top 100.

And Texas only has 2 in the Top 25, but 15 in the Top 100.

 

Uplands good, but with their QB transferring they shouldnt be Top 100. We saw that they are 2 different teams with and without him vs. Oaks Christian. They jumped out to a lead vs. OC in the playoffs, lost their QB to injury, and OC came back and won ...

Cajon being in the Top 100 is stupid. Pure, unadulterated stupidity. They didnt beat a soul worth mentioning last year... Their best game was a close loss to Murrieta Valley... They got their asses kicked by Serra (SM). The fact Cajon is ranked just shows CalPreps extreme bias for California, SoCal specifically. MaxPreps had them inexplicably high also, but like I said MP and CP favored CA teams over mine and HSFA.

CP actually has Liberty (Brentwood) CA in its Top 100. Possibly the most head scratching Preseason ranking in the History of All Preseason rankings. 

 

I like Upland more than Cajon. I like 500 teams better than Cajon.

 

 

There was 158 Total Teams ranked in the 4 different polls... The totals for each state in that were ...

TX: 25 (10 of 25 teams were only in 1 poll)

CA: 20 (5 of 20 teams were only in 1 poll)

FL: 15 (5 of 15 teams were only in 1 poll)

GA: 12 (2 of 12 teams were only in 1 poll)

[ECHS05]

Just The Top 100 Teams From The Compilation Without All The Clutter & Numbers:

 

1. St. John Bosco CA 

2. Mater Dei CA 

3. IMG Academy USA 

4. St. John's DC 

5. Allen TX 

6. St. Frances Academy MD 

7. Grayson GA 

8. St. Thomas Aquinas FL 

9. Chandler AZ 

10. Bishop Gorman NV

11. Lake Travis TX 

12. Hoover AL 

13. Cardinal Gibbons FL 

14. De La Salle CA

15. Bergen Catholic NJ 

16. Folsom CA 

17. Archbishop Hoban OH 

18. Marietta GA 

19. University Lab LA 

20. Mission Viejo CA 

21. Orange Lutheran CA 

22. Corona Centennial CA 

23. St. Louis HI 

24. Pickerington Central OH 

25. Colquitt Co. GA

 

26. Trinity (Louisville) KY 

27. DeMatha MD 

28. Katy TX 

29. North Gwinnett GA

30. Rome GA 

31. Saguaro AZ 

32. Warren Central IN 

33. Narbonne CA 

34. Bingham UT 

35. North Shore TX 

36. Archer GA 

37. Good Counsel MD 

38. DePaul Catholic NJ 

39. Wekiva FL 

40. St. Joseph Regional NJ 

41. Oaks Christian CA 

42. Brentwood Academy TN 

43. Chaminade-Madonna FL 

44. Dutch Fork SC 

45. Owasso OK 

46. Thompson AL 

47. Hewitt-Trussville AL 

48. St. Josephs Prep PA .

49. Westlake (Austin) TX

50. Aledo TX 

 

51. Buford GA 

52. Duncanville TX 

53. St. Peter's Prep NJ 

54. Miami Central FL 

55. American Heritage (Plantation) FL 

56. Converse Judson TX 

57. Chaminade CA 

58. Colerain OH 

59. Central (Phenix City) AL

60. Lincoln-Way East IL 

61. North Little Rock AR 

62. South Pointe SC 

63. Serra (Gardena) CA 

64. Pittsburg CA

65. McEachern GA

66. St. Edward OH 

67. St. Ignatius OH 

68. Cajon CA 

69. Upland CA 

70. Blessed Trinity GA

71. Oakland TN 

72. Deerfield Beach FL 

73. Carol City FL 

74. Walton GA 

75. Muskegon MI 

 

76. Southlake Carroll TX 

77. Mentor OH 

78. Christian Brothers MO 

79. Mallard Creek NC 

80. Union (Tulsa) OK 

81. Cy-Fair TX 

82. Venice FL 

83. T.L. Hanna SC 

84. Imhotep Charter PA 

85. Euless Trinity TX

86. East (Salt Lake City) UT 

87. St. Xavier OH

88. Catholic (Baton Rouge) LA 

89. Klein Collins TX 

90. Longview TX 

91. Phillips IL 

92. Punahou HI 

93. Bishop Dunne TX 

94. Mansfield Legacy TX 

95. Pulaski Academy AR 

96. Pinson Valley AL

97. M.L. King MI 

98. Loyola Academy IL 

99. Starkville MS 

100. Edna Karr LA

[Sammyswordsman]

23 minutes ago, ECHS05 said:

MaxPreps & CalPreps in particular were CA heavy ...

Overall in the Compilation

CA:

7 in the Top 25

14 in the Top 100

 

Whays crazy to me is Florida only has 2 Top 25, and 9 Top 100.

Georgia has 3 Top 25, and 10 Top 100.

And Texas only has 2 in the Top 25, but 15 in the Top 100.

 

Supports what I have been stating about Florida trending down in recent years.

[Nolebull813]

40 minutes ago, Sammyswordsman said:

Supports what I have been stating about Florida trending down in recent years.

2 California polls trying to rank other states is like taking the opinion of CNN and MSNBC. 

Its propganda. 

National number 5 and California's consensus number 2 team got boat raced and stone walled by the 12th best team in Florida. 

Miami Central, Armwood and Booker T beat Bishop Gorman in the same timeframe that the entire state of California went 2-12 against them. 

Bragging about Calpreps is like bragging about Penis size in Japan 😂

[Nolebull813]

In 2009 Lakeland beats DLS and then goes home and takes the only home shutout playoff loss in their 102 year history to Plant. They finished 11th in FL. DLS rolls to a state title. 

In 2011 STA puts a running clock on DLS on national TV. STA then limps to 3 losses including an embarrassing 6-3 loss to Dwyer in the watered down playoffs. They finished 12th in Florida. DLS wins the state title by 5 touchdowns and finished number 3 nationally

in 2017 SJB comes to Florida on the 15 year anniversary of the schools 33-7 as whooping by Miami Monsignor Pace and lost 9-3. STA stumbles to 13th in Florida while SJB cements their ranking as the number 2 team in californa and 5th overall nationally. 

Thats what you call a trend. Lol 

[Nolebull813]

And just for depth sake, a defending small school Champ St Bernard's comes to Florida and plays a small team with more freshman than seniors. Holy Trinity Episcopal. 

Holy Trinity,FL beats St Bernard's,CA 31-28

St Bernard's finishes 12-2 and 3,299th nationally. 

Holy Trinity goes 6-3 and finished 4,132nd nationally. 

Almost 1,000 spots lower. Lol. 

[Pops]

1 hour ago, RedZone said:

peanut poll now in the compilation.

#GodBlesstheinternet

I sort of feel the same way however the kid  puts in the work and occasionally produces something worthy of discussion 

I don’t expect the echs05 to be referenced in whatever is THE compilation (which is sometimes handed to us — ie formerly CP and rivals, and sometimes selected by us)

i tend to think the compilation poll is always better than any single poll and peanut including himself is perfectly acceptable in a scrimmage compilation 

some polls focus on Star players, some on W/L, others on SOS

peanut ensures “returming starters” is not overlooked 

[Pops]

1 hour ago, ECHS05 said:

 They got their asses kicked by Serra (SM). The fact Cajon is ranked just shows CalPreps extreme bias for California, SoCal specifically. 

From the same set of facts it would be easier to say that NorCal is underrepresented 

I would call that neutral on CA 

i wont argue your point on a socal bias but would include lots of areas where good teams meet consistently (ie NJ, GCL, DFW)

cajon should not be top 100 although they’ve got some good athletes — they’re a poor mans Murietta that needs to prove it a bit more than their star ratings 

[Pops]

1 hour ago, ECHS05 said:

And Texas only has 2 in the Top 25, but 15 in the Top 100.

That makes perfect sense to me 

TX isn’t keeping up with the jones’ in creating the nth level of elite teams and by creating I mean blatantly open transfer roster building (and, additive, is the lesser sin IMHO of just privates, specifically Catholics, having no boundaries even without recruiting)

IMG, Trinity league/ socal, BNU, GCL, Grayson, STA, DLS, BG, MD/ DC privates etc all have inherent advantages to get in and or stay in that nth level

On the other hand, I think 15 could be low for TX in top 100 — they have a lot more big ass schools, with their own advantages that have great football culture, talent, coaching, intangibles than any other state — there’s just more parity there and too much control on competitive equity to let any team run wild on roster enhancement 

[Horsefly]

14 minutes ago, Pops said:

That makes perfect sense to me 

TX isn’t keeping up with the jones’ in creating the nth level of elite teams and by creating I mean blatantly open transfer roster building (and, additive, is the lesser sin IMHO of just privates, specifically Catholics, having no boundaries even without recruiting)

IMG, Trinity league/ socal, BNU, GCL, Grayson, STA, DLS, BG, MD/ DC privates etc all have inherent advantages to get in and or stay in that nth level

On the other hand, I think 15 could be low for TX in top 100 — they have a lot more big ass schools, with their own advantages that have great football culture, talent, coaching, intangibles than any other state — there’s just more parity there and too much control on competitive equity to let any team run wild on roster enhancement 

Good post

[ORabidOne]

2 hours ago, BUFORDGAWOLVES said:

My eye is not twitching on this one and that’s a good thing. 

Looks good, we’ll see what the rest of the gang has to say. 

Regards

BGW

Only that, when I grow up, I wanna be JUST like EC!

[ECHS05]

3 hours ago, RedZone said:

peanut poll now in the compilation.

#GodBlesstheinternet

 

Because I put out the best product. Compare mine to even HSFA, CP, and MP... Mines better than those also. I put in the research and time it takes. I also watch as many games as ANYONE. 

Theres a few that'll deny that out of pride, and not liking me, but thats the case no matter what... There will always be haters.

[ECHS05]

1 hour ago, Pops said:

I sort of feel the same way however the kid  puts in the work and occasionally produces something worthy of discussion 

I don’t expect the echs05 to be referenced in whatever is THE compilation (which is sometimes handed to us — ie formerly CP and rivals, and sometimes selected by us)

i tend to think the compilation poll is always better than any single poll and peanut including himself is perfectly acceptable in a scrimmage compilation 

some polls focus on Star players, some on W/L, others on SOS

peanut ensures “returming starters” is not overlooked 

 

Obviously returning starters only matters in a Preseason poll, which quickly becomes irrelevant once the season starts.

 

[Adam Kurkjian]

7 minutes ago, ECHS05 said:

 

Obviously returning starters only matters in a Preseason poll, which quickly becomes irrelevant once the season starts.

 

I think, these days, returning starters matters a little less until you can also factor in the transfers. Depends on the program or part of the country, though.

[ECHS05]

2 hours ago, Pops said:

From the same set of facts it would be easier to say that NorCal is underrepresented 

I would call that neutral on CA 

i wont argue your point on a socal bias but would include lots of areas where good teams meet consistently (ie NJ, GCL, DFW)

cajon should not be top 100 although they’ve got some good athletes — they’re a poor mans Murietta that needs to prove it a bit more than their star ratings 

 

I guess my question would be, who do you think is missing from NorCal?

 

When I make my poll, I first make a list of teams from each state (NorCal and SoCal I do seperate) that could possibly even be considered for a Top 100 list ..

For NorCal thatd look like ... (Last year Central Section D1, 2, & 6 were NorCal) (This is the list Id use to choose preseason Top 100 reps from NorCal)

De La Salle 

Pittsburg 

Serra (San Mateo) 

Central (Fresno)

Jesuit 

St. Francis (Mountain View)(I named SF as my early sort of darkhorse in NorCal)

Liberty (Brentwood) ... Id probably at least initially list this team simply because theres a poll that has them in its Top 100.. Even though it looks preposterous... Id never add a team like this to a Top 100 without them showing more than they have... Their 2017 results werent impressive, it wouldnt matter if this team brought back all 22 starters... Their 2018 schedule is also far from impressive ... No offense to them, theres just a ton more deserving teams... How CalPreps thinks they deserve to be Preseason #95 I have no idea.... As you would say, "Im Pops, and Liberty only beat 1 team in the Top 1000 last year, correction, in the CALPREPS Top 1000 last year" ... 

 

Id keep an eye on Del Oro & St. Marys (Stockton) but I wouldn't add them here yet ...

[ECHS05]

21 minutes ago, Adam Kurkjian said:

I think, these days, returning starters matters a little less until you can also factor in the transfers. Depends on the program or part of the country, though.

Transfers matter sure...

For certain teams ... Like the SJBs, MDs, STAs, MCs, IMGs, BGs and a few others of the HSFB world... You have to look at how many high level transfers are filling holes ...

But for a large majority of the Top 100... They arent getting 5+ transfers every offseason... So returning starters matters a YUGE amount. Experience playing together/chemistry is bigly stuff

[ECHS05]

Double post.

[ECHS05]

2 hours ago, Pops said:

That makes perfect sense to me 

TX isn’t keeping up with the jones’ in creating the nth level of elite teams and by creating I mean blatantly open transfer roster building (and, additive, is the lesser sin IMHO of just privates, specifically Catholics, having no boundaries even without recruiting)

IMG, Trinity league/ socal, BNU, GCL, Grayson, STA, DLS, BG, MD/ DC privates etc all have inherent advantages to get in and or stay in that nth level

On the other hand, I think 15 could be low for TX in top 100 — they have a lot more big ass schools, with their own advantages that have great football culture, talent, coaching, intangibles than any other state — there’s just more parity there and too much control on competitive equity to let any team run wild on roster enhancement 

In 2016, Grayson was definitely a transferred up machine... They got more high level transfers than Ive ever seen in 1 offseason in GA... But just to give this 2018 Grayson team a little more credit for the team they have now, theyve been pointing to this class for years and years, as one of the best ever in Georgia ... It wasnt a transfer thing ... In fact the only transfer at all is 3* DT Tru Thompson (FSU Commit) , and he transferred as part of that 2016 group, right after his Freshman season. So these guys have a ton of experience playing together, they dont have to learn each others names.

(Another reason I hate the coaching carousel thats been happening at Grayson the last 3 years, 2019 is a special class thats been pointed to for years ... And more stability in the coaching ranks wouldve made it even better) 

 

 

 

[Belly Bob]

2 hours ago, Pops said:

That makes perfect sense to me 

TX isn’t keeping up with the jones’ in creating the nth level of elite teams and by creating I mean blatantly open transfer roster building (and, additive, is the lesser sin IMHO of just privates, specifically Catholics, having no boundaries even without recruiting)

IMG, Trinity league/ socal, BNU, GCL, Grayson, STA, DLS, BG, MD/ DC privates etc all have inherent advantages to get in and or stay in that nth level

On the other hand, I think 15 could be low for TX in top 100 — they have a lot more big ass schools, with their own advantages that have great football culture, talent, coaching, intangibles than any other state — there’s just more parity there and too much control on competitive equity to let any team run wild on roster enhancement 

 

2 hours ago, Horsefly said:

Good post

Imagine what it would be like if the DFW area poured the lion's share of their talent into just two schools: TX's version of MD and SJB. 

I don't think they'd have much trouble claiming the top 2 spots. 

Good for TX that they haven't gone that route. It's a shame what's going on in SoCal. 

[HawgGoneIt]

1 minute ago, Belly Bob said:

 

 

 It's a shame what's going on SoCal. 

A damned shame.