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2018 Tier Placement - Final


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4 minutes ago, Bestcoast said:

Chaminade is #10 in L.A. city area. Not even top 10 SoCal. They’re the biggest game left on NoCal’s # 2 team. So Sad for NoCal. The struggle is very real up there. 

 

 

Well, that was a lie. So sad that SoCal posters will lie in order to support their agenda. 

http://www.latimes.com/sports/highschool/la-sp-prep-football-rankings-20180902-story.html

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10 hours ago, Sammyswordsman said:

Excellent post.  Centennial AZ has had two outstanding wins vs. Top 10 programs, and been placed on a Tier so will be part of the national conversation.  AZ as a state was trending up over the last two years, but had some unexpected set backs in 2018.  Centennial is now the flagship program from a National perspective.

I agree. 

And Chandler's win over Northwestern last year was one of the most impressive wins I've ever seen, measured by the difference between what I expected to happen and what actually transpired on the field.

I figured Chandler would struggle against Florida's 6A champs. 

But Chandler dominated every single aspect of that game and made Northwestern look pedestrian that night.

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8 hours ago, Bestcoast said:

#10 in L.A. times

Not SoCal 

Struggle very very bad for NoCal

Nocal # 2 biggest game against LA Times #10

The struggle is hard to watch

I’m thinking Folsom wins this one by 28 minimum. They’re going to want to make a statement for losing to DLS when they could have won. 

SoCal will claim Chaminade sucks after the ass kicking, but in reality there’s only 3 teams in SoCal that can hang with the bulldogs this season. 

 

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1 hour ago, Belly Bob said:

I agree. 

And Chandler's win over Northwestern last year was one of the most impressive wins I've ever seen, measured by the difference between what I expected to happen and what actually transpired on the field.

I figured Chandler would struggle against Florida's 6A champs. 

But Chandler dominated every single aspect of that game and made Northwestern look pedestrian that night.

Chandler's still a strong team. A lot of games can get out of hand when playing Cen10 (CA) and their quick-strike offense. Chandler will be just fine this year and are still a top 20-30 team. I'm more interested in how Pinnacle will fare against them. Pinnacle plays JSerra on the road this weekend. I'm very interested in that game. Cen10 (AZ) continues to surprise me. I didn't expect them to beat STA last year or BG this year. Kudos to them. 

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7 hours ago, Extremely Humble said:

I’m thinking Folsom wins this one by 28 minimum. They’re going to want to make a statement for losing to DLS when they could have won. 

SoCal will claim Chaminade sucks after the ass kicking, but in reality there’s only 3 teams in SoCal that can hang with the bulldogs this season. 

 

Ok. Let’s not get crazy here. Chaminade isn’t some D2 school. Those guys play a tough schedule every year. They’ll be equally if not tougher than Helix. Folsom’s not gonna bring anything they haven’t seen before. I think that Folsom, based on what I’ve seen and heard, is probably better right now. 28 points better on the road? I doubt that. I had em maybe a 42-21 winner initially. But now the more I think about it more like 35-21 or 35-24. 

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9 minutes ago, Blueliner said:

Ok. Let’s not get crazy here. Chaminade isn’t some D2 school. Those guys play a tough schedule every year. They’ll be equally if not tougher than Helix. Folsom’s not gonna bring anything they haven’t seen before. I think that Folsom, based on what I’ve seen and heard, is probably better right now. 28 points better on the road? I doubt that. I had em maybe a 42-21 winner initially. But now the more I think about it more like 35-21 or 35-24. 

Chaminade is a top 10 team in SoCal. This game will be over at half time. 

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2 hours ago, Blueliner said:

Ok. Let’s not get crazy here. Chaminade isn’t some D2 school. Those guys play a tough schedule every year. They’ll be equally if not tougher than Helix. Folsom’s not gonna bring anything they haven’t seen before. I think that Folsom, based on what I’ve seen and heard, is probably better right now. 28 points better on the road? I doubt that. I had em maybe a 42-21 winner initially. But now the more I think about it more like 35-21 or 35-24. 

I honestly posted that drunk lol. Now that I’m sober, you’re probably right. Two td’s Folsom. 

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5 hours ago, Extremely Humble said:

I honestly posted that drunk lol. Now that I’m sober, you’re probably right. Two td’s Folsom. 

I laughed. I've posted shit when I was buzzed and read it the next morning and just shook my head. xDAnd I agree with the 2 TDs. Folsom's better. I think Chammy's athletes will keep them in it for a little while, then Folsom will start pulling away I the second half.

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11 minutes ago, Blueliner said:

I laughed. I've posted shit when I was buzzed and read it the next morning and just shook my head. xDAnd I agree with the 2 TDs. Folsom's better. I think Chammy's athletes will keep them in it for a little while, then Folsom will start pulling away I the second half.

I just watched their game from last week against Mission Hills. Based on what I saw, this game will be over at half time. 

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Tier 1 - Mater Dei, IMG, St. Johns, STA, SJB, Miami Central,  Allen, Carol City

 

Tier 2 -  Lake Travis, St. Louis,  DLS,   Pickerington Central,  North shore (tx),  SFA, Bergen Catholic, Mentor, Colquitt County, Cen10

 

Tier 3 - Colerain,  ULab, Katy, Rome,  Milton, Folsom, Bishop Gorman, Centennieal AZ,  Archer, St. Xavier, Grayson, Arch Bishop Hoban, Deerfield Beach, Bingham

 

Tier 4 - Converse Judson Tx, ,,  Mission Viejo, OLU,   Lincoln Way East (IL), Dematha,   SJP, JSerra, Cardinal Gibbons, American Heritage Plantation, Jokes Christian, Marietta, St. IGGY, St. Edwards, Trinity*  Warren Central, Gonzaga, 

Tier 5 -   SJR,  Aledo, Buford,   Upland, Blessed Trinity (Ga), Muskegon (Mi), East (SLC),  Columbia (FL),  Loyola Academy (IL), Walton,  Chandler,  Miami Northwestern,   Lee County, Good Council, North Gwinett, SPP, Gonzaga,  Servite, Duncanville (Tx), Bishop Dunne, DePaul

Tier 6 - DBP,  John Curtis, Arch Bishop Rummel, Lowndes, Santa Margarita, Cajon Ca,   Serra Gardena, Liberty NV, Saguaro, Phillips

*teams will not be considered to be in a Tier until they score a point ( if they have played a game).

Below is an explanation of the Methodolgy used to place the teams on various Tiers.  The Tier concept recognizes that W/L records are a function of quality of opponent, and as such, RELEVANCY of opponent MUST be factored in.  The Tiers recognizes that in some cases, a 10-0 team (ranked in Top 100 by some outlets) could get blown off the field by a 5-5 (unranked) team that played a tougher schedule.  This is why the Tiers was created.

 

*Not attempting to rank every team, only the ones we discuss on this site.

* The Tiers are fluid and subject to extreme fluctuations early in the year, leveling out as the year progresses.

*Tier placements consider a teams entire body of work, however are weighted heaviest on recent games and game weights decrease in significance in reverse order.  In other words, early road OOS losses to relevant teams can be overcome as the season progresses.

*Teams placed on the same Tier can compete with other same Tier teams and possibly win 2+ of 10. 

*Basically there is a -10 point drop between tiers.  Could vary from 7 to 21 depending on the styles of teams playing.  This does not necessarily mean that there is a 30 point difference between Tier 1 and Tier 3, only that the chances of a Tier 3 team beating a Tier 1 team are exponentially less than the chances of a Tier 2 Team beating a Tier 1 team.

*The Tiers will ultimately be made up of (16) teams per Tier that would form competitive playoff brackets.

*Texas teams generally have not played enough OOS games to gauge properly #crapshoot.  There must be a daisy chain OOS connection for a reference point.  Teams with no OOS daisy chain connection may not be placed on a Tier.  (Texas exempt)

*Tiers are based on exhaustive research, Multiple games watched, and good gut feelings.

*This is a crowd sourced rating. All input will be considered and adjustments will be made as appropriate

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